OK, I've now had my Black N80 for a weekend and love it. The camera is superb, the ability to surf over my wireless network a joy and the music player is decent too.

However, where are all the applications? A quick search on Handango showed 121 S60 3rd edition applications, of which about 110 were dictionaries and the remainder silly AI talking "sexpots". When will all those good 2nd edition apps get ported? I've gone back to my 9300 for daytime use, as it has Verichat of Yahoo IM, Profimail for email, and a host of other stuff I use on a daily basis.

Oh, and when will Symbian get round to doing an OPL extension for S60s? I've a host of progs written in OPL for my 9300 I'd like as well.

Grumble over ;) I just don't want ot have to carry two phones around for too long.

Yes I agree. I am waiting for FExplorer, Yahoo Go, and the SKY App. Agile messenger would be nice too. And Profimail.

Come on developers, we're eager to spend money.

If you've already spent the money surely you should get a free upgrade? You have bought the software licence and if all they are doing is recoding exactly the same product with no new version or upgrades I would definitely want a freebie.

I never got free upgrades when I changed phones in the past, so I doubt I will get them now. I think the argument put in the past was "You brought 'XXX' for the 6600, you need to buy 'XXX' if you upgrade to an N70"

Dr Who,

Its a tricky one that given the amount of work for developers to get from S60 2nd Edition to 3rd Edition. I'm sure some will do free upgrades, and I would expect most to at least offer a dsicount, but some will probably charge full price.

I know at least some of the above mentioned apps are being ported right now (some are awaiting Symbian Signing).

Yes I agree. I am waiting for FExplorer, Yahoo Go, and the SKY App. Agile messenger would be nice too. And Profimail.

Come on developers, we're eager to spend money.

What's the sky app?

Symbian app from SKY TV. It's great, you can view video clips of news headlines, login to view sports scores and other stuff. The sports scores is the page I used the most, it's an almost identical layout to the one used on SKY soccer saturday. Excellent app all round.

Symbian app from SKY TV. It's great, you can view video clips of news headlines, login to view sports scores and other stuff. The sports scores is the page I used the most, it's an almost identical layout to the one used on SKY soccer saturday. Excellent app all round.
Sounds nice :)

Use Java apps, for now! Most of them are free, and do, almost, the same things that Symbian apps do.