Hi!
I just got my 3650 this monday, and I already love it.

I'm considering a 128 MB MMC, but I just want to know if this is enough space for a long movie?

And is there a way to play the movie full-screen and flipped sideways so that the cellphone-screen kind of becomes a widescreen? (If you didn't get that, just ignore me and do something else...)

And as long as I'm already babbeling, what other options is there for connecting the 3650 to a PC other than with IR and Bluetooth? I've seen some cables that I think are capable with the 3650, but I'm not sure. Also, the price for these cables are almost the same as the price for a Bluetooth-card.

Oh, and last but not least; any suggestions for video encoding settings?

I appreciate any effort to answer any of this crap :D

Hi!
I just got my 3650 this monday, and I already love it.

I'm considering a 128 MB MMC, but I just want to know if this is enough space for a long movie?

And is there a way to play the movie full-screen and flipped sideways so that the cellphone-screen kind of becomes a widescreen? (If you didn't get that, just ignore me and do something else...)

And as long as I'm already babbeling, what other options is there for connecting the 3650 to a PC other than with IR and Bluetooth? I've seen some cables that I think are capable with the 3650, but I'm not sure. Also, the price for these cables are almost the same as the price for a Bluetooth-card.

Oh, and last but not least; any suggestions for video encoding settings?

I appreciate any effort to answer any of this crap :D

1)16 MB are enough in Real Video Format....I tried it!

Turn the phone sideways :D No just joking..
There was VideoMMS for WIND (Italy) that played them fullscreen.

3)No Cables. Full stop

i can only answer 2.

NO.
Cables are a no.

Seriously.. if there aren't any official cables, don't buy them. the 8310 cables were really really dodgy (as they were cheap 'hacks')..

just buy yourself an IR port (mine was 60aud, or 30usd) and i had to get a 4-port usb hub since i was out of ports (15aud, 7.5usd).

There was VideoMMS for WIND (Italy) that played them fullscreen.


So, if I resize a film to lets say 200x84, and flip it around so that the dimensions now are 84x200, this program, VideoMMS, would be able to show it full-screen?
Hope the refresh-rate isn't too bad. If anyone wants to try it, please let me know the results. I haven't got myself the IR/Bluetooth yet, so I haven't been able to try it out for myself...

Speaking of IR/Bluetooth, any favorites - IR/Bluetooth?
Guess cables is not an option, huh? Not even Nokia's cables? (Heard some works with the 3650 too...)

BTW, thanks for helpin' me out :D

EDIT:
Just remembered, I saw some 256 MB MMC's over at eBay. Does the phone support 256 MB?

the WIND program just "flips" the screen, without having to manually flip videos

but if I remember correctly it only plays .MP4 files, and - most important - it plays them ONLY from C: drive; we'd have to wait for the 3650 to be officially released here in italy by WIND operator too, and then we can begin to hope they'll release an updated software

but, with "free and for all" releases of hantro by nokia... I think it would be very hard to see any other "concurrent" programs to be sold by anybody :(

and I think it would be almost impossible to watch a full movie, since the program is doing "scaling" to fit the size, so using a lot of CPU resources; and even realvideo files that are scaled too much aren't played

p.s. about MMC... I am quite sure there are NO MultiMediaCards above 128MB in this world... I searched like a fool in the past month, but never found anything about bigger than 128MB... you can find SD or whatever, but no MMC over 128MB

if any1 could point me to some place where to buy them, I'd be happy to try 'em out :)

p.s. about MMC... I am quite sure there are NO MultiMediaCards above 128MB in this world... I searched like a fool in the past month, but never found anything about bigger than 128MB... you can find SD or whatever, but no MMC over 128MB

if any1 could point me to some place where to buy them, I'd be happy to try 'em out :)

Could be fake, but:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29745&item=2918735 526

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29745&item=2919102 474

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29745&item=2918331 335

http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_fe53f50fad15b0796349a4fad753e7a5/i-1.JPG

Not a fake. Check this post from a last week.
http://allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=72104#72104

Has anyone made a bid?
Please tell me. I really want to know how it works :o

How about you, JyriK?

but if I remember correctly it only plays .MP4 files, and - most important - it plays them ONLY from C: drive; we'd have to wait for the 3650 to be officially released here in italy by WIND operator too, and then we can begin to hope they'll release an updated software

OK, I tried out VideoMMS, and like you said; ONLY C: drive...

So I tried Hantro 3.3 and T-Mobile, both didn't work... Dunno why...
But if I get them to work (some how) will they be able to play videofiles from other drives than C: ?[/quote]

Just a short post.

Optimizing/converting videos for the 3650 (Or any video playback enabled device) can easly be done with PV author.
I'm watching "where the wild roses grow" video on my 7650 right now (About 1MB in size),looks good too.

Get it at: www.pv.com

so, what resolution do you use? and can the video be "flipped" 90 degrees such that a wide screen format is ultilised?

:D Thanks GhostDog! I'll check it out...

BTW, how long is that "Where the wild roses grow" of yours?

i reeeeaaaallllyyyyy hope a 256mb memory comes out and i will definetly get it
just cant wait :multi: :scatter: :onfire:

so, what resolution do you use? and can the video be "flipped" 90 degrees such that a wide screen format is ultilised?

I guess that you can do the fliping with some other progie.
Res: 128X96

:D Thanks GhostDog! I'll check it out...

BTW, how long is that "Where the wild roses grow" of yours?

I think it lasts about 4 minutes.

Anytime :D

It works great! The video files are very small. Perfect! :D
Just too bad it messes up the wide-screen movie format (16:9 to 4:3).

Yes it does.
I really want a 3650 right now :D

A buddy of myne actually showed me the matrix film playing fullscreen and he mannaged yto get it down to only 88mg! i dont know about the cables other then use a cable for a diff phone,here is a sneaky trick lol,to take a pic without the shutter sounding just put your phone in silent mode,not that any1 would need to do this ehy ;) .

Im going to amsterdam where im getting a chip and a speaker implanted into my teeth so all i need to do is bite my tongue and i can make a call by flicking my tongue over the corresponding teeth!,dont think old folk will be able to utalise this idea though,i mean i dont think we will ever see pay as u go denchers.sorry am i ranting bollox?...hope the sencible info was of help to ya bud.byee.

where can i find mp4 movies,any link? :)

IRVING02, I don't know. I just compress my DivX movies...
Just got Austin Powers - Goldmember down to 22 MB. I'm gonna try to get it down to 16, because I haven't got myself a MMC yet.

Knoxly, good luck in Amsterdam :o

would ne of u lot who make movies small be willing to share them ? because i still dont get how to do it

can someone post the link pls :roll:

Guys! Guys! :D
Download PVauthor from www.pv.com
And play with it.Well,there is not much to play with.The app is quite user friendly and i think that anyone can manage to compress a movie.

The video i was talking about was 38 MB and got it down to just 1MB.

ok then.. so wiv this i can compress a 700mb movie to fit on a 3650... how big would it be after compression then?

ok then.. so wiv this i can compress a 700mb movie to fit on a 3650... how big would it be after compression then?

Well,not on 3650's internal memory,but it could fit on a 64 MB MMC or maybe smaller.
The size after the conversion depends on lots of things,bitrate,resolution,sound codec.
My advice,play with PVauthor.

The video i was talking about was 38 MB and got it down to just 1MB.

I got both Goldmember and Ice Age down to about 16 MB (originally about 600-700 MB)! They were about 90 min long. :D

But the audio isn't syncronized with the audio! Can someone help? :-?


BTW, my (CURRENT) settings:

Try Real Producer....I have Reign of Fire 90mins 15MB.

Doesn anybody have a link to a site with various .3GP files to download?
What do you use to play .MP4 files on the phone with?

... maybe I should write a little FAQ about 3GP files, movies, compressing and the fact u cannot download them as not only are they illegal; but no-one uses 3GP format.

but anyway i'll try to help u here;
1. 3GP is only on Nokia phones (pretty much)
2. Its shit quality compared to DivX or something; which is why people don't use it on PC
3. To make things 3GP u need the Nokia program (or the 3GP program which costs money); and 3GP is really crap quality.
4. It is illegal to have movies for download to begin with; let alone modified (compressed) ones.
5. To Compress them you need that program PVAuthor (or VirtualDub).

jeff.

First of all 3GP is not intended for PC,that is why no one uses it.
Its not shit.
Having 3GP,MP4 movies is not illegal.
I have converted AND1 mixtape DVD which i own,so i dont think that having a MP4,3GP copy of something you own would be illegal.
Sharing it,yes.
PVauthor does not convert to 3GP,MP4 only.(I dont know about the sound)

true "if u own it" but this guy is asking for links to places where he can download the actual videos rather than the s/w to do it himself.

also PVAUTHOR isn't free; get VirtualDub (free).

But the audio isn't syncronized with the audio! Can someone help? :-?


Sorry i forgot about you :)

Well,maybe you should try higher bitrate or the AAC codec(I think you need to buy PVauthor if you want to use AAC)

I dont think you need Fixed I-Frames and Random positioning because there is not player that supports it yet.

Try Real Producer....I have Reign of Fire 90mins 15MB


RealMedia format?

Yep. Real Video 8. Dont remember the settings though. I know that real video 9 doesnt work!

hi,

i have downloaded the PV program and i cant get it work, i can open it an select a movie, but how can i compress???

thanks

greetzzz

would ne of u lot kind share these movies tht u hav gotten so small?

sorry tht above post is mine :P

would ne of u lot kind share these movies tht u hav gotten so small?

No.

how can i convert a windows media player file to rm or mp4?

thanks

greetzzz

yea thts wot id like to knw but i also heard u dont need to once u send it to phone it converts itself by phone is this tru?

no, that's with a mpeg file, than it coverts to a mp4 file

greetzzz

AVI's and MPG's are automatically converted into .3gp when you transfer them using PcSuite.

Not tried wmv files.

Thou the conversion is pretty dirty and RealOne plays them quite small with a black border round them.

You get MUCH better quality if you convert them to .rm files yourself.

But for ease of use if you don't want to mess around converting then let PcSuite do it for you..


Best :)

Will

the easyest way is multimedia converter pro but the qualitty issent that good

how can i convert a windows media player file to rm or mp4?

If your talking about .wmf files, just get them converted to .avi or something, and then I recommend useing pvAuthor or VirtualDub to compress them.

Sorry i forgot about you

Well,maybe you should try higher bitrate or the AAC codec(I think you need to buy PVauthor if you want to use AAC)

Yup. AAC doesn't work. :(
I'll try to use a higher bit-rate, but then agian compressing it to 16 MB is hard...

No way to sync the audio and video?

i see

hi,

i have downloaded the PV program and i cant get it work, i can open it an select a movie, but how can i compress???

thanks

greetzzz

Its quite easy actually.
After you select the movie,got to the encoding tab,make the apropriate choices in badwith,codec and codec setings tab,click OK and thjen click Start.

My 7650 won't play a video created by it - tried all kinds of settings.


Just me being dumb or is vid. player different to 3650?

What app are you using to play the video?

"Video Recorder Application Version 3.4 (C) Hantro" from Nokia.com

I know,same here,i cant play MP4 files on my 7650.
My point is,my little brother rescently got a second hand 7650 which was packed with VideoMMS( i really dont think it is a legal copy)and VideoMMS can play them.

I posted about MP4 player only in the 7650 forum couple of days ago but i got no respones so no MP4 player yet i guess.

hantro video player doesnt play mp4 video neither does the nokia video program only the video mms italian one player both types mp4 and 3gp

hantro video player doesnt play mp4 video neither does the nokia video program only the video mms italian one player both types mp4 and 3gp

VideoMMS is based on hantro,so i dont know what you mean by hantro not being able to play MP4 files and if i remember correctly the first ever released video recorder was from T-Mobile(Hantro) and the format was MP4.

Developers,we need a MP4 player.

PS: What about HipCam,what format does it use?

i converted 8 mile to mpeg4, and it's 18mb, but what can i use it for when there is no app that will let me play it from the mmc ( drive e: ).

And watching movies on the mobilephone is one of the coolest things i can imagine, so why isn't this topic sticky?

Have u tried multimedia player??...Or u can convert the file into rm.

what's multimediaplayer, and how do i cinvert into rm?

I CONVERTING VIDEO IN VIRTUAL DUB.
FIST I RESIZE VIDEO ON 208x176
THEN I ROTATE IT 90degress

But i dont know, how can i convert .avi to .3gp.
I tryed

VirtualDub - i dont have .3gp .nim .rm codec !!!!!
i tryed MPG4 but this shit codec isnt for Mobile Phones - terrible size.

Nokia Multimedia Convertor 2 pro - DOESNT WORK - this shit program can resize my video to smallest size-bleee

Nokia Multimedia Convertor for Nokia 9210 - same as first, program can resize video resolution, but i dont need resizing -bleee

pvAuthor - this shit program cant open video, which has WIDTH smaller than HIGHT -bleee