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oxfordmark 10-09-2009 11:06 AM

Debranding
 
Hello

If you have debranded your N97, what did you use for it? NSS?

And what Product code did you change it too?

mattblue 10-09-2009 11:26 AM

I would be interested in this - am on orange, is there a tutorial ?

Cheers

ironass 10-09-2009 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxfordmark (Post 437232)
Hello

If you have debranded your N97, what did you use for it? NSS?

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum...e+product+code

And what Product code did you change it too?

Depends on where you are and what language packs you want.

http://www.nokiausers.net/forum/noki...uct-codes.html

oxfordmark 10-09-2009 11:43 AM

I assume ill need 0570817: RM-505_EMEA_EURO_QW1 Black?

Im english.

oxfordmark 10-09-2009 11:56 AM

Looks like its not worth debranding.. I hear that when you do it with NSS and do a Nokia update, the phone bricks!

dez_borders 10-09-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by oxfordmark (Post 437251)
Looks like its not worth debranding.. I hear that when you do it with NSS and do a Nokia update, the phone bricks!

And with a de-branded handset, Nokia considers the warranty as invalidated, so you will own an expensive 500 brick!

Zyyb 10-09-2009 12:41 PM

There is a way to flash bricked phones (i've bricked mine twice) but it's not for the faint hearted. Depends if getting the upgrades 3-4 weeks earlier is that important, plus i guess clearing out the Orange crap!

If you do decide, make sure you have all the programs first, search on here for a 9 page thread called "bricked my n97"

lovesign 10-09-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oxfordmark (Post 437251)
Looks like its not worth debranding.. I hear that when you do it with NSS and do a Nokia update, the phone bricks!

I have regularly debranded my phones since the 6680 and have done many of them so when I investigated the possibilities of debranding the N97 I found, like you, many reports of people bricking their phones. It seemed that the usual method of using Nemesis Service Suite to change a product code didn't work because NSS couldn't read/write BB5 phones like the N97. So, many people used an app called JAF, along with some rather convoluted processes to get the number changed. When they used Nokia Software Updater to get the new firmware, it seemes that the procees bricked their phones. They could then be recovered by using another convoluted process involving downloading the FW from a non Nokia site and using JAF again to bring their phones back to life.

Once I read that I was of the mind to just not bother, but that all cahnged when Nemesius released their latest version of NSS and with BB5 support. After more research on the net, I found no reports of bricking, only multiple reports of successful Product Code changes, so I performed the change and upgraded my FW from v10 to v12 with absolutely no problems whatsoever. I used the Euro 1 code (0570817: RM-505_EMEA_EURO_QW1 Black) which I have always used in the past with no issues.

As Dez says (in fact, it seems to be all he ever posts nowadays!! LOL) changing your code will invalidate your warranty, and of course, dicking around with your phones internals is done ENTIRELY at your own risk. However, I can confirm that I have done this successfully and everything is working just fine. My phone is a UK model, purchased from Carphone Warehouse, with the Carphone Warehouse product code.

Hope that helps.

bijt 10-09-2009 01:21 PM

Might be worth looking at this tutorial:

http://www.n97fanatics.com/complete-...our-nokia-n97/

lovesign 10-09-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bijt (Post 437282)
Might be worth looking at this tutorial:

http://www.n97fanatics.com/complete-...our-nokia-n97/

Have to say, that's a tutorial to the over complicated JAF method.

The latest version of NSS requires you simply to plug your phone in, run NSS, press one button to "find" the phone, write your new product code in and press WRITE. Job done, 10 seconds work, and it won't kill your device :)

Again, the ever present caveat being that fecking around with your handset is done entirely at your own risk :)

Zyyb 10-09-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesign (Post 437284)
Have to say, that's a tutorial to the over complicated JAF method.

The latest version of NSS requires you simply to plug your phone in, run NSS, press one button to "find" the phone, write your new product code in and press WRITE. Job done, 10 seconds work, and it won't kill your device :)

Again, the ever present caveat being that fecking around with your handset is done entirely at your own risk :)

Have to say that i did do this and it did brick mine, not sure if it's because i'd changed the code previously though. Flashing it brought it back to life. Be prepared!

lovesign 10-09-2009 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyyb (Post 437288)
Have to say that i did do this and it did brick mine, not sure if it's because i'd changed the code previously though. Flashing it brought it back to life. Be prepared!

You bricked it using JAF? or NSS?

oxfordmark 10-09-2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovesign (Post 437280)
After more research on the net, I found no reports of bricking, only multiple reports of successful Product Code changes, so I performed the change and upgraded my FW from v10 to v12 with absolutely no problems whatsoever. I used the Euro 1 code (0570817: RM-505_EMEA_EURO_QW1 Black) which I have always used in the past with no issues.

All i have found is still people saying it bricked. Can you find me these reports of successfull debranding?

Zyyb 10-09-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesign (Post 437290)
You bricked it using JAF? or NSS?

I did as you laid out in a previous post, downloaded the latest version of NSS, changed the code and pressed write. Then upgraded with NSU and it bricked. However, as i said, i'd already changed the code (to generic uk) before, so i dont know if that had an effect.

lovesign 10-09-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxfordmark (Post 437293)
All i have found is still people saying it bricked. Can you find me these reports of successfull debranding?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=N97...ient=firefox-a

:)


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