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teabelly 27-12-2010 05:13 PM

Replacement for N86
 
I give up with the N86. It's just such a bug ridden piece of rubbish. It should be a good phone but just isn't. It's just decided to delete an email mailbox for no reason at all! Add to that the general stability problems - having to reset it sometimes 3 or 4 times in an hour. Resetting to original settings once every few weeks or a few months as it just becomes impossible to use it. I've had symbian phones for years and this has just been the worst phone I've ever had. I can't get the latest firmware but judging by comments on here it'll be no better. The E70 I had before was so much better reliability wise. The N86 has had 2 and it's still hopeless.

It's so annoying as the camera (when it works) takes really good photos and it's got the right form factor. When it is working properly it is really good but unfortunately most of the time it isn't.

Which symbian phones have good cameras (8mp) with flash, decent battery life and good messaging? Don't want touch screen only ones as I always use the keypad for texting. Needs good call quality too as this nokia isn't much cop at that either. Also use it for web browsing so that has to be reasonable.

I was looking at the samsung tocco as that had the features I wanted but it seems to be discontinued.

It took me ages to settle on this phone and it has been a total disappointment. Only had it a year but I really can't be bothered wrestling with it any more.

Other alternative is another messaging app for email and texts/MMS that is much more reliable. MMS hang and take ages to send and email is dead flaky. Email setup doesn't work properly either and it seems like the email app and messaging app aren't quite connected properly so the email app can 'lose' a mailbox that messaging thinks still exists. Messaging app replacement is last straw territory though.

Kilroy Murdoch 27-12-2010 05:53 PM

Hmmm tricky one.

The E7 which is coming out soon has an 8MP camera on top of a physical slide-out QWERTY.

Though my personal recommendation would be the Nokia N82. I had this phone for 3 years and it was fantastic. It may only have a 5MP camera but the Xenon flash makes up for it. Can really take some good shots. It also has the physical Keypad you were looking for, though the keys are a bit fiddly. You get used to them.

teabelly 28-12-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kilroy Murdoch (Post 479195)
Hmmm tricky one.

The E7 which is coming out soon has an 8MP camera on top of a physical slide-out QWERTY.

Though my personal recommendation would be the Nokia N82. I had this phone for 3 years and it was fantastic. It may only have a 5MP camera but the Xenon flash makes up for it. Can really take some good shots. It also has the physical Keypad you were looking for, though the keys are a bit fiddly. You get used to them.

I think a business class phone might be better. I don't think business users tolerate poor software in the way that consumers might. I'm wary of nokia now really as this phone has been so appalling that I'm considering never touching one of their products again!

A friend had an N82 and loved it. It went flaky at around 2 years old so again I'm not impressed with build quality and reliability.

Kilroy Murdoch 28-12-2010 04:13 PM

I think you're right about the business class aspect.

Shame about your friends N8. I was running mine for 3 years. Around 2 years in it started to slow a bit due to all the apps I had installed. Decided to factory reset and it was back as new (software-wise) anyway...

I guess if you want to move away from Nokia then now would be the best time with the plethora of good choices out there. It seems as though you've just had bad luck with the phones you've had. Just assess your price point and features you're after...

teabelly 29-12-2010 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kilroy Murdoch (Post 479234)
I think you're right about the business class aspect.

Shame about your friends N8. I was running mine for 3 years. Around 2 years in it started to slow a bit due to all the apps I had installed. Decided to factory reset and it was back as new (software-wise) anyway...

I guess if you want to move away from Nokia then now would be the best time with the plethora of good choices out there. It seems as though you've just had bad luck with the phones you've had. Just assess your price point and features you're after...

It was the camera that died on the N82. Even factory reset wouldn't bring it back to life! They were gutted as it was the best phone they'd had. The N97 they've got now is a nightmare in comparison.

I spend ages checking reviews and have not bought quite a few that could have been even worse. I want a 6310i with t'internet and a decent camera! I think I gave up with the N86 and just bought it for the features as it had everything. Moments later CPW had withdrawn it because it was unreliable! Think they withdrew quite a few smartphones at the same time. Network operators interfering with phones is probably partly why this one has been less reliable. The E70 I bought sim free so it wasn't messed with so it was relatively ok.

Good camera, web/facebook, excellent messaging and decent battery life. Every single phone available should meet these basic needs but they all seem to struggle. Don't want an iphone as it's got a poor camera, poor battery life and no proper keyboard. Android phones have relatively poor cameras .I'm just left with Nokia and Samsung. Tried an LG viewty once. Nearly threw it against the wall in annoyance as it was so bad! Was very annoying as the LG chocolate I had was sort of ok apart from the dismal battery life.

The worst thing is you don't know a phone is pants until you try and live with it then you're stuck with it. I need to find somewhere that would let me try each one for a couple of days really. I usually crash most new phones within an afternoon...

xerxes 04-02-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by teabelly (Post 479243)
It was the camera that died on the N82. Even factory reset wouldn't bring it back to life! They were gutted as it was the best phone they'd had. The N97 they've got now is a nightmare in comparison.

I spend ages checking reviews and have not bought quite a few that could have been even worse. I want a 6310i with t'internet and a decent camera! I think I gave up with the N86 and just bought it for the features as it had everything. Moments later CPW had withdrawn it because it was unreliable! Think they withdrew quite a few smartphones at the same time. Network operators interfering with phones is probably partly why this one has been less reliable. The E70 I bought sim free so it wasn't messed with so it was relatively ok.

Good camera, web/facebook, excellent messaging and decent battery life. Every single phone available should meet these basic needs but they all seem to struggle. Don't want an iphone as it's got a poor camera, poor battery life and no proper keyboard. Android phones have relatively poor cameras .I'm just left with Nokia and Samsung. Tried an LG viewty once. Nearly threw it against the wall in annoyance as it was so bad! Was very annoying as the LG chocolate I had was sort of ok apart from the dismal battery life.

The worst thing is you don't know a phone is pants until you try and live with it then you're stuck with it. I need to find somewhere that would let me try each one for a couple of days really. I usually crash most new phones within an afternoon...

You might want to take a look at previews of the Sony-Ericsson Xperia Arc which is due out in a couple of months. Its going to be expensive though...


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