All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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Old 11-03-2009, 01:47 PM
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I've just de-branded my Nokia N85 orange version.
Old product code was: 0577607
New one is EURO1: 0555817

Menus are faster. Maybe Navi wheel is working better because of this.
Silent key # is working now. Also no more predefined Orange crap like internet settings, emails and etc. When I formated my phone after new firmware it asked me which country I am in and installed internet settings for local provider.

I would say generic firmware is much better. Wait for your 28 days warranty and debrand.

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Old 20-03-2009, 01:21 PM
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Am I right in assuming that debranding doesn't remove the sim-lock? Just got an n85, and am trying to get the Orange simlock removed for less than 20. Seems difficult to achieve.

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Old 20-03-2009, 01:39 PM
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Am I right in assuming that debranding doesn't remove the sim-lock? Just got an n85, and am trying to get the Orange simlock removed for less than 20. Seems difficult to achieve.
Correct, de-branding does not remove Sim-Lock - only the handset network provider can provide the unlock code.

Please also be aware that technically de-branding invalidates the Nokia 2 year warranty.
Every time you use NSU, the IMEI and Product-Code are logged on Nokia's server
- so Nokia has proof that you de-branded the handset, even if you later change the code back to the original value.
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Old 21-03-2009, 01:09 PM
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Cheers for clarifying that. I'm gonna get my N85 unlocked (which is now looking like it'll cost me 30!) and then change the product code. I'm guessing there's no dependancy between the two procedures, so they won't conflict? Wouldn't want to risk reversing the unlocking by debranding.

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Old 21-03-2009, 01:58 PM
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Cheers for clarifying that. I'm gonna get my N85 unlocked (which is now looking like it'll cost me 30!) and then change the product code. I'm guessing there's no dependancy between the two procedures, so they won't conflict? Wouldn't want to risk reversing the unlocking by debranding.
Don't worry, unlocking and de-branding have no effect on each other.
However, just please be aware de-branding invalidates the Nokia warranty.
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Old 23-03-2009, 07:41 PM
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Finally got the N85 unlocked (several places tried and failed!), so I've just debranded the thing. All seemed to go well. I treat my phones well, so hopefully it'll serve me well. Cheers to the original poster and to dez.

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Old 25-03-2009, 10:40 PM
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Has anyone been able to unlock an N85 on Orange?

My turbo sim won't work, and the usual unlocking code/service websites don't seem to do N85's other than Voda/T-Mobile.

CarGuy - I'm in Leyland too!

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Old 26-03-2009, 02:30 PM
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Has anyone been able to unlock an N85 on Orange?

My turbo sim won't work, and the usual unlocking code/service websites don't seem to do N85's other than Voda/T-Mobile.

CarGuy - I'm in Leyland too!
Wow another Leylander on the forum, bit unusual that! lol Where abouts? I'm near the market.

Not tried unlocking my N85, but i remember hearing that Orange provide unlocking codes for free if you ask them, but only when the contract is up.
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Old 26-03-2009, 06:28 PM
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Wow another Leylander on the forum, bit unusual that! lol Where abouts? I'm near the market.
I'm just off Dawson Lane

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Not tried unlocking my N85, but i remember hearing that Orange provide unlocking codes for free if you ask them, but only when the contract is up.
I heard that too, but when I rang they said I need 20 credit on a PAYG sim. I bought one and topped it up, then when I rang back they said it needed to have been registered to me and on the network for 3 months. I only bought it off eBay last week

Think I've found a place to do it anyway, need to post it to them...more waiting...time drags when you've no phone!

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Old 26-03-2009, 07:01 PM
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I handed 30 over to a phone shop ("Unlocking Specialist"), went back 2 days later to pick it up, and they told me they'd failed due to their software not supporting that phone. Got my money back, took it to a dodgier store (who also charged 30) and picked it up later the same day. He actually took the phone with him somewhere to get it done, so I guess most unlocking places have similar software/hardware and can't do it.

So, it is definitely possible to get the Orange N85 unlocked, but I think you'll need a proper specialist with the latest BB5 hardware and software.

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Old 26-03-2009, 08:42 PM
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I'm just off Dawson Lane



I heard that too, but when I rang they said I need 20 credit on a PAYG sim. I bought one and topped it up, then when I rang back they said it needed to have been registered to me and on the network for 3 months. I only bought it off eBay last week

Think I've found a place to do it anyway, need to post it to them...more waiting...time drags when you've no phone!
Most likely Buckshaw Village then i'm guessing, unless you're in one of those odd 1 or 2 houses actually on Dawson Lane itself. lol
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Old 28-03-2009, 02:02 AM
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Hi. I want to debrand my US N85 with a custom software. Can you tell me how I do that and what software I need. My pc is 0574476. Thanks.

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Old 28-03-2009, 03:06 AM
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Hi. I want to debrand my US N85 with a custom software. Can you tell me how I do that and what software I need. My pc is 0574476. Thanks.
No problem

You do this at your own risk, this is just a basic guide here to help you get started. If you're unsure then ask someone who knows more about phones or you could end up damaging your phone.


1. Find a new product code for your phone using a search engine such as google. Search for things like N85 product code, and find one you like the sound of, that matches your region is preffered.

2. You need a piece of software called "NSS". You can download FREE from http://www.b-phreaks.co.uk/NSSDownloadLanding.htm Just download and install

3. Connect your phone to your PC via USB. When asked which USB mode to use on your phone, choose "PC Suite"

4. Make sure Nokia PC Suite isn't running and open NSS.

5. Click scan for new device and wait until your phone is found, then click on it.

6. Click on "Phone Info", then scan, then click on where it says "read".

7. You should then see your existing product code displayed in one of the boxes on the right of the screen, click "enable", and then change the product code to the new product code.

8. Click "write" and wait for the phone to update.

9. Recheck the product code by clicking on "read again".

10. Do a backup of your phone data and then run Nokia Software update on your pc. Your phone should then download and install new firmware.
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Old 30-03-2009, 03:12 AM
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Thanks. That is great. Now how do I figure out whether a product code is generic or branded? I know mine is since *#0000# says so. And a search turned up several PC for my region, but didn't say whether they are customs or not. So how do I figure out whether the codes are generic? I am in the US, and I found a few NA codes:
0567297
0574145
0567104
0567286

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Old 30-03-2009, 11:26 AM
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The list i found also mentioned whether or not each product code was branded or generic (unbranded). I don't have a link to the list unfortunately though.
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