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Old 17-01-2005, 07:32 PM
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Question MP2 (two) player on Sendo X to play SD card DAB radio recordings from TheBug radio

I would like the Sendo X to be able to play MP2 (yes: M P two) recordings from an SD card. Is there an MP2 player I can get or buy for the Sendo X? If not, can anyone advise me on the Sendo hardware so I can make the program myself?
I am a commercial C/C++/Java programmer with some knowledge of ARM (from Acorn PCs)

I live in the UK and I have TheBug DAB Digital Radio (see www.thebug.com) which can do on-the-spot or timed record radio programmes directly onto SD card. The format is MP2 (yes, MP *two*) because this is what DAB radio is broadcast in, MP2.

I would like to take the SD card containing the MP2 radio recording and put it in my Sendo X and listen to it.

To illustrate the point, here's a scenario about timeshifting, radio equivalent of Sky+:
There are some late night/early morning great specialist music shows on Radio 1, 1Xtra, XFM etc. etc. (insert your favourite radio statio here!) and loads of intellectual discussion on Radio 4. But I am either out or working while these are on. So I record them. Would be great if I could listen to them on my Sendo X during the commute to work (when I have nothing else better to do!)

So is there a program for the Sendo X that can player MP2 files from the SD card?
If not can anyone give me datasheets/advice on making a program? I have the skills. I have tried Sendo but have had no response back yet.

I guess that the reason that TheBug does not record and convert MP2 to MP3 format (playable by the Sendo X) is that this would require extra processing power which would increase the cost of manufacturing.

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Old 17-01-2005, 10:24 PM
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This may not be what you want - but there are MP2 to MP3 converters out there. I've used dbPowerAmp in the past but going back to it I seems to require a license for MP3 output - $14!

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Old 17-01-2005, 10:48 PM
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This may not be what you want - but there are MP2 to MP3 converters out there. I've used dbPowerAmp in the past but going back to it I seems to require a license for MP3 output - $14!
No dB PowerAmp is free unless you download and install the Powerpack...

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Exclamation MP2 (two) player on Sendo X to play SD card DAB radio recordings from TheBug radio

I do not want a PC based solution. I want to be able to take the SD card out of TheBug and put it into the Sendo X without an intermediate step. I've been sat in front of a computer all day - I hardly want to do it when I get home: go through the tedious PC boot up ceremony, "Windows XP"..."Welcome"...La-De-Dah. But thanks anyway for the PC based solution.

Just think of the marketing synergy between the makers of TheBug (Pure Digital/Imagination Technologies) and Sendo that a Sendo X MP2 player could generate. Sales of both products could benefit.

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Old 18-01-2005, 01:31 PM
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I do not want a PC based solution. I want to be able to take the SD card out of TheBug and put it into the Sendo X without an intermediate step. I've been sat in front of a computer all day - I hardly want to do it when I get home: go through the tedious PC boot up ceremony, "Windows XP"..."Welcome"...La-De-Dah. But thanks anyway for the PC based solution.

Just think of the marketing synergy between the makers of TheBug (Pure Digital/Imagination Technologies) and Sendo that a Sendo X MP2 player could generate. Sales of both products could benefit.
Can you post a link to an mp2 file recorded from "TheBug" radio (or PM me it) for further investigation.

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Exclamation MP2 (two) player on Sendo X to play SD card DAB radio recordings from TheBug radio

As requested, here are some MP2 files

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MP2 (two) player on Sendo X to play SD card DAB radio recordings from TheBug radio

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Exclamation MP2 (two) player on Sendo X to play SD card DAB radio recordings from TheBug radio

3rd time lucky (file was too large, so have removed one of the .mp2 files inside the zip) (what am i doing wrong?!), steps to attach a zip file to this forum
1. Im on Reply to Thread page, typing this
2. Under Additional Options, Attach Files/Manage Attachments <-- click this
3. Pop up window, Manage Attachments appears. Click Browse to browse to file. Done that. File is in 'File to upload' field
4. Click Upload button
5. File appears under current attachments
6. Close window, pop up Manage Attachments disappears
7. Click Submit on Reply to Thread page

I reckon it should be possible to make an MP2 program for the Sendo X, if it can already play stereo MP3s. Just need to know about the hardware/software apis, symbian apis and how to use the on board ARM co-processor and custom DSP co-processor.
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File Type: zip mp2.zip (245.1 KB, 428 views)

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Re:MP2(two) player on Sendo X to play SD card DAB radio recordings from TheBug radio

Anyone know of an MP2 (yes MP two) player for Symbian 'phones?
See my reason for asking below.

If there isn't one. Then I'll write one myself. Just thought I'd ask before I re-invent the wheel!

Cheers. Rob.


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Originally Posted by rjamesd
I would like the Sendo X to be able to play MP2 (yes: M P two) recordings from an SD card. Is there an MP2 player I can get or buy for the Sendo X? If not, can anyone advise me on the Sendo hardware so I can make the program myself?
I am a commercial C/C++/Java programmer with some knowledge of ARM (from Acorn PCs)

I live in the UK and I have TheBug DAB Digital Radio (see www.thebug.com) which can do on-the-spot or timed record radio programmes directly onto SD card. The format is MP2 (yes, MP *two*) because this is what DAB radio is broadcast in, MP2.

I would like to take the SD card containing the MP2 radio recording and put it in my Sendo X and listen to it.

To illustrate the point, here's a scenario about timeshifting, radio equivalent of Sky+:
There are some late night/early morning great specialist music shows on Radio 1, 1Xtra, XFM etc. etc. (insert your favourite radio statio here!) and loads of intellectual discussion on Radio 4. But I am either out or working while these are on. So I record them. Would be great if I could listen to them on my Sendo X during the commute to work (when I have nothing else better to do!)

So is there a program for the Sendo X that can player MP2 files from the SD card?
If not can anyone give me datasheets/advice on making a program? I have the skills. I have tried Sendo but have had no response back yet.

I guess that the reason that TheBug does not record and convert MP2 to MP3 format (playable by the Sendo X) is that this would require extra processing power which would increase the cost of manufacturing.

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PS this should be possible to do without specific knowledge of the Sendo X - I had a telephone discussion with one of the Sendo directors and that's what he said. Just need knowledge of Symbian OS - which is readily available.

But again, I don't want to do this if there is already a player out there for Symbian phones.

But if there isn't then it will also look good on my CV if I write one.


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Anyone know of an MP2 (yes MP two) player for Symbian 'phones?
See my reason for asking below.

If there isn't one. Then I'll write one myself. Just thought I'd ask before I re-invent the wheel!

Cheers. Rob.

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Old 11-07-2005, 10:29 AM
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Just think of the marketing synergy between the makers of TheBug (Pure Digital/Imagination Technologies) and Sendo that a Sendo X MP2 player could generate. Sales of both products could benefit.
Sadly, Sendo have gone into administration. Did you not know? See other threads.

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Old 11-07-2005, 10:41 AM
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Sadly, Sendo have gone into administration. Did you not know? See other threads.
Sorry, I see this thread started back in January!
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:25 AM
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One step closer to an MP2 player!

I'm going ahead and writing my own MP2 player, based around the ogg play - I'm just going to rip out the ogg codec and replace with an MP2 codec. C/C++ code for MP2 codec are available via http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/audio.html#audio-softwares

I've talked to the oggplay authors and they are very helpful:

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.p...orum_id=294908

My MP2 player will also be opensource.

I'll keep you all updated.

Recording 1Xtra, Radio1, Kiss 100 etc specialist music shows onto SD card in my Bug Radio (http://www.thebug.com) and then listening to them with the SD card in my Sendo X mobile in the car, gym or out running has become one step closer!!!

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Old 12-10-2005, 12:02 PM
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Best of luck

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Originally Posted by rjamesd
I'm going ahead and writing my own MP2 player, based around the ogg play - I'm just going to rip out the ogg codec and replace with an MP2 codec. C/C++ code for MP2 codec are available via http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/audio.html#audio-softwares

I've talked to the oggplay authors and they are very helpful:

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.p...orum_id=294908

My MP2 player will also be opensource.

I'll keep you all updated.

Recording 1Xtra, Radio1, Kiss 100 etc specialist music shows onto SD card in my Bug Radio (http://www.thebug.com) and then listening to them with the SD card in my Sendo X mobile in the car, gym or out running has become one step closer!!!
I am just as frustrated as you, trying to find an mp2 player to play BUG recordings. Unless you spend 300 on an in car recorder or 150 on a Perstel DR301 I can't find much else. This type of player does not need much, volume, play/pause/fast forward and maybe a memory of where it last stopped. No need of a funky display, if you are radio recordings. I would be interested to know how you get on. Jh.

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I would be interested to know how you get on
I would too, otherwise I have to add mp2 support to the list of things that people want us to add to OggPlay.
 

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