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Old 24-11-2007, 07:31 PM
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Question [UK] Nokia N95 'GPS data' always 'Waiting for GPS'

I have had access to three Nokia N95 smartphones, all with the latest firmwares O2 and Orange are supplying (meaning Assisted GPS is supported).

Neither the 'GPS data' or 'Maps' applications ever connect to the GPS, even though 3-5 satellites are found.

I always try it outside (and have been in various places) and wait around five minutes.

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Old 24-11-2007, 07:38 PM
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Slider open?

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Old 24-11-2007, 10:37 PM
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Data plan, settings to connect to the internet etc all ok?
Because A-Gps means nothing without internet connection.

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Data plan, settings to connect to the internet etc all ok?
Because A-Gps means nothing without internet connection.
I don't want anything costing me. Surely using the 'GPS data' application wouldn't need to cost me anything?

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So that's your answer.

If you don't have data connection enabled/active , your phone can't connect to Assistance Server so you don't have A-Gps even if your firmware supports it.

And then GPS on N95 can be really slow, especially first time.

If you don't want to enable A-Gps (I would! <20sec fix every single time! My Sirf Star III BT receiver is much much slower than that!),
then I'd suggest just leave the phone open, facing the sky in a parked car on a dashboard for example,
for as long as necessary to obtain a first fix.

It will get better next time.

Make sure to disable the A-Gps in settings if you don't want it, AFAIR it's ON by default, and maybe that makes it even slower to fix when it's unsuccesfully trying to connect to a server.

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So that's your answer.

If you don't have data connection enabled/active , your phone can't connect to Assistance Server so you don't have A-Gps even if your firmware supports it.

And then GPS on N95 can be really slow, especially first time.

If you don't want to enable A-Gps (I would! <20sec fix every single time! My Sirf Star III BT receiver is much much slower than that!),
then I'd suggest just leave the phone open, facing the sky in a parked car on a dashboard for example,
for as long as necessary to obtain a first fix.

It will get better next time.

Make sure to disable the A-Gps in settings if you don't want it, AFAIR it's ON by default, and maybe that makes it even slower to fix when it's unsuccesfully trying to connect to a server.
So it will always cost to use the internal GPS device, even if I don't want to use the route finder ?

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Nope, if ur using just internal GPS, then its free,

but if your using A-GPS, then it will cost u a very small amount everytime

Both work fine, but A-GPS is a LOT quicker.

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Nope, if ur using just internal GPS, then its free,

but if your using A-GPS, then it will cost u a very small amount everytime

Both work fine, but A-GPS is a LOT quicker.
Ah, I understand

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I take it you are looking at the progress of the lock by looking at Options > View > Satellite info in the Maps application.

Normally it wouldn't take as long to lock, even from cold. I sometimes wonder if it might lock quicker if you didn't hold it but rested it against something at 45 degrees.

My N95 always locks quickly when in a car mount, even if the car is moving.

A GPS start after a firmware upgrade only took 3 minutes without AGPS in the car.

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I take it you are looking at the progress of the lock by looking at Options > View > Satellite info in the Maps application.

Normally it wouldn't take as long to lock, even from cold. I sometimes wonder if it might lock quicker if you didn't hold it but rested it against something at 45 degrees.

My N95 always locks quickly when in a car mount, even if the car is moving.

A GPS start after a firmware upgrade only took 3 minutes without AGPS in the car.
Went to Tools > Settings > General > Positioning > Positioning server. Turns out the access point was set to nothing, but changing that to O2 Mobile Web fixed it. I have also disabled the A-GPS and Network-based methods, as these cost me money to use.

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Old 27-11-2007, 04:39 PM
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Thanks for the advise; I also have the same phone on vodafone. It used to take 3 mins to get a signal with A-GPS and Network based methods. Now its almost instant, even inside at a 45' angle.
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