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Old 02-10-2008, 04:31 PM
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Nokia 5800 - touch-enabled, mid-range, music-focussed S60 phone

The Nokia 5800 XpressMusic, a mid-range music-focussed phone, was launched today in London. It is Nokia's first touch enabled S60 phone. It runs S60 5th Edition on Symbian OS 9.5, has a 3.2" nHD (360 x 640) touch screen, WLAN and 3G connectivity, a 3.2 megapixel auto-focus camera, integrated A-GPS and accelerometer and proximity sensors. To underline its music potential, the 5800 has a standard 3.5mm audio jack, stereo speakers, ships with a 8GB microSD card and will be one of the first phones to support Comes with Music (Q1 2009). It will be available worldwide in Q4 for 279 Euros (£215) before taxes and subsidies. Read on for much more.

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Old 02-10-2008, 04:48 PM
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It will be available worldwide in Q4 for 279 Euros (215) before taxes and subsidies. Read on for much more.
I think the launch price is the detail that stands out most IMHO, it's amazingly cheap.

The pre-tax SIM-free price of the iPhone is approx 500 euros once you remove network operator subsidy, so in effect the 5800 is about half the price of the iPhone. Even on contract these price differences are visible because less expensive phones have lower up front costs (many are free!) and lower monthly fees.

As such I think Rafe is right to be cautious about direct comparisons as they're in a totally different price range, and so to some extent aimed at different markets. In some ways the 5800 perhaps should be seen more as an "iPhone lite" rather than an "iPhone killer", with Nokia's true iPhone competitors yet to come.

The first Nseries touchscreen devices will probably be much closer in price to the iPhone, and much more direct competitors.

Going the other way, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple brings out its own cheaper touchscreen phones ("iPhone Nanos" perhaps?) and these would be what the 5800 would be directly up against.

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Old 02-10-2008, 05:15 PM
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(Incidentally, is everyone able to post in this thread? Someone in the other news thread said they couldn't comment here, but I just checked the thread settings and it should be open for all comments. If you can't post here please let us know in the S60 5th Edition thread.)

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Old 02-10-2008, 05:27 PM
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I think the make or break is going to be text entry.

You have 3 choices (On Screen Keyboard, on screen number pad and handwriting recognition) but will any of them be good enough?

But all in all it looks like a good device at a good price that should appeal to touchscreen fans.

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Old 02-10-2008, 05:34 PM
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You have 3 choices (On Screen Keyboard, on screen number pad and handwriting recogition) but will any of them be good enough?
Definitely a biggie, it was one of the things the iPhone got some flack for from some reviewers, and texting may even be one of the things that has kept touchscreen phones in a niche so far. If most people continue to simply prefer buttons, that may be a glass ceiling on how far touchscreen phones will spread.

There's possibly no perfect solution because different people prefer different techniques, different people have different finger sizes, and also of course it's innately more difficult to type on a flat panel than real buttons.

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Hello, anyone who has wanted to leave a comment please try again. Langdona seems to have solved the problem we had with this thread.

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Quite larger but a much smaller neater package than the slab iPhone.

No word on tactile feed back (touch vibration) ?

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Old 02-10-2008, 08:17 PM
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Unregistered, yes there is tactile feedback.

Rafe notes in the article that it does have touch/vibration feedback but it's not localised to a particular screen area.

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Oh this is sweeter than I expected... I'll be getting my hands on this soon!

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Strangely, considering I have had no interest in this previously, I feel myself drawn to wanting one, bugger.
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Ratkat, know what you mean.

I wrote an editorial for AAS a short while ago attacking the idea of buying devices on their launch day, but this really does tempt me into being an early adopter myself. The surprisingly low price makes it particularly tempting.

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) my bank balance won't allow any new gadget purchases in the near future. :-)

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by my understanding, s60 5th ed is basically like s60 3rd ed by with touch and other sensors enabled. If so, the os alone can compete with the iPhone's. the same form factor, but hands down better specs on the tube. Plus, the freedom to choose any gsm network and still get it for cheap.

3 points for nokia for having a very impressive, artistic, and in-your-face comeback.

By the time nsedies touch devices come out, and there is n-gage support, people will be like, "iPhone? What's that?"

I'm already anxious to replace this iPhone!

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Note that it is using Symbian OS v9.4, not v9.5 as stated in the article.

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With the plectrum and the touch screen, I can see a guitar application in my mind already. Maybe a S60 version of Guitar Hero ? It has the makings for a great touch-screen specific Ngage game. Does it not ?

And this isnt even the flagship ! What the hell are they gonna put into the flagship touchscreen ?? (apart from a 5/8 mp cam and ngage/ovi support)

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Hmmm...

I've always hated touch screen phones, but if I use a bluetooth keyboard this could be just what I've been looking for and at just the right price too. Of all S60 phones I thought this would be the one I'm least likely to upgrade to, yet now it's top of my list. Does it have TV-out capabilities?
 

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