Why I'm thinking of Selling my P900

I've read through a lot of this thread and while yes I agree there are problems with the Px00 series I don't think there are any more than any other device. I've used almost every device in the category at one time or another and probably the best thing I can say about the Px00 is it is the one I chose to buy (both a P800 and a P900). There's a good reason its the (one of?) best selling PDAPhones (3 million IIRC) currently available.

Well, I for one, am very happy with my P900, (which I have had for just under one month).

I bought it for the things it can do, as opposed to any failings that I could discern.

being able to watch a 2hr DVD, listen to MP3's, send and receive e-mail from several pop3 accounts, (including a free one), view ski-field conditions while en route via GPRS, (refreshing to pick up any changes in weather, or access road conditions), take photos from chairlift to then send as attachments to colleagues stuck at work is well... priceless! (for everything else, there's MasterCard!)

With respect to other Users comments on bugs, crashes, etc, no-one quotes the version of the OS that they are having problems with.

My "trouble-free" experience is using Organiser (version) CXC162021 R5B02

And I haven't even mentioned the phone functionality - the clarity of which would enable me to phone in "sick" whilst ski-ing, without giving the game away! :tongue:

Raven wrote:.

The P800 had a few bugs, but most of them were fixed with the P900. Also some UI inconsistencies that people complained about with the P800 are no longer there with the P900. The P900 is the most stable phone/PDA I've ever used. You keep saying that the P-series is up to its 3rd incarnation, and that they still haven't fixed anything. -Have you even tried a P900? I very much doubt it, let alone a P910.
http://uiq.com/uiq3

It is simply amazing seeing SE hardcore would accept the fact "You need to buy P900 to have the problem with P800 fixed". Raven, are you really proud of what SE is doing. Shouldn't they fix the problem with P800 instead of offering P900 as a solution to several simply and annoying bugs of P800. These are USD 700-800 devices that I think deserve to be taken care of. Not being left out and force you to buy another one.

BTY, I think some of the feature being offered in P910 should be there in P900 if SE is not trying to squeeze every penny in your pocket. They should have made P900 to be MSDuo Pro compatible. MS Pro is a 2 year old technology. They should have the screen brightness to be adjustable(hell even USD 50 Gameboy screen brightness can be adjusted). If you oqn P800 you will have to buy two more just to get this very important feature. To me at least. It is acceptable? NOP

But none of the things you mention are bugs? Screen brightness, media format? These are features. What manufacturer in their right mind is going to keep adding new features to an old device and lose sales of new devices? That's just rediculous!

Do you see Panasonic offering upgrades to their televisions to provide surround sound or high definition? Do you see Sony adding MP3 capability to their walkmans'? Do you see Philips adding DAB as a free upgrade to old radio sets? Ford giving you the latest engine for your old Fiesta? Of course not. So why do people treat the mobile phone industry differently?

Couldn't agree more! You know that the P900 "lacks" the features you are mentioning when you're buying the device! If these features were a must to you, you shouldn't buy it! Everyone is free to make that choice!

Edit: Besides, don't forget that the P800 didn't came with nightmode for the camera, flip closed mp3 player etc. at first, but SE gave us a FREE (in most cases) upgrade. And if there are some bugs found now in the P900, you can upgrade yourself to the latest firmware, once again free!

smokinman wrote:It is simply amazing seeing SE hardcore would accept the fact "You need to buy P900 to have the problem with P800 fixed". Raven, are you really proud of what SE is doing. Shouldn't they fix the problem with P800 instead of offering P900 as a solution to several simply and annoying bugs of P800. These are USD 700-800 devices that I think deserve to be taken care of. Not being left out and force you to buy another one.

Are you calling ME a die-hard SE fan?! LOL, I hope not, you couldn't be farther from the truth. I never liked Ericsson phones much, I don't care for Sony, so Sony Ericsson don't mean di@k to me. The only products from the company I like are the Pxxx's. I currently own a Nokia N-Gage, waiting for the Nokia 9500 Communicator. You may call me a Symbian fan.

I agree with you that SE should've offered some kind of upgrade offer for early adopters (beta testers) of the P800 (like me) who wanted to upgrade to the P900. Something in the line of what Treo 300 owners got when they upgraded to the 600. But like Bassey and Delta have mentioned, business is business, and SE have become a rather large company now so they can afford to screw over their customers. That's how large companies become large. I don't like it anymore than you, but that's just how it works.

When that's said, the P800 is still a very decent smartphone on its own though. In fact I'v been thinking of getting a cheap second hand one for a while now. I kind of miss it. I had it for a year and loved it. I moved on to the P900, but it didn't leave nowhere near as big an impression on me. It's an excellent device of course, but the P800 was a first of its kind. 😊

I made some rules. since the Nokia days.

I just can't believe the ammount of soul destroying hassle I and everybody has to put up with being "unpaid bug testers", I for one am fed up with it, so i made some rules.

1. Always check Google for forums to said TECH for major bugs "before buying"
(unless your a programing guru that enjoys bug testing)

2. Wait 3 months for price to drop below half the price it was to start with.
and for some firmware to be released.

3. Check ebay.co.uk .com

I just found a P900 for �134 sim free but i still wont waste my money on one until they iron out the email and power on off issues loosing data poor online firmware docking. etc etc

stered wrote:I just found a P900 for �134 sim free but i still wont waste my money on one until they iron out the email and power on off issues loosing data poor online firmware docking. etc etc

Well, you should take everything you read on a forum with a grain of salt as well. Most people come here to get help with some problems, which in most cases are just a matter of inexperience, not reading the manual etc. There aren't many (if any) real bugs on the P900. Like I said before, it's the most stable device I've owned, and well worth the dough.

There are no "power on off issues loosing data" with Symbian. Don't know where you got that from, you must be thinking of Windows Mobile or something. The e-mail client, although a little basic, does the job just fine. And I had no problems updating the firmware either.

That's not quite true Raven. A few people, myself included, have "lost" calendar appointments after rebooting. There seems to be an issue where two copies of the calendar database get created, only one of them is update during a synch with Outlook, and next time you reboot, all of the last set of changes have disappeared.

As for the e-mail client, there are no bugs that I'm aware of. Two features can be a little annoying (lack of HTML support and only part of long headers can be seen without downloading the whole thing) but these are features, not bugs.

But there is definitely a data-loss issue that seems to be related to the woefull Outlook synchronisation.

Bassey,

But that's, like you said, related to the god awful PC sync software, not the P900 itself. If you don't sync with Outlook, you should'nt face any risk of data loss.

Absolutely. I rue the day my company changed from Organiser to Outlook. Not just 'cause of the synch. It's generally an absolute mess. Why can't Microsoft make everything as good as Excel?

I might be wrong but i don't think they made excel,they just bought it 😃

That would explain it!

I got about 400 contacts in outlook and about 7 meetings per day in my calendar -synchronizing it with my iPaq takes 2 min - synchronizing it with the phone takes 30+ min !!!!!!!! and then things are still not showing up correctly on my phone - I completely share your grievances

That's rediculous! I have exactly the same volumes along with lots of notes and tasks and synch takes around 1min! Even forcing a full synch takes less than five mins. You must have your serial connection on the P900 at it's slowest setting. Go to the control panel, choose the connections tab. Then select cable. Change the baud to it's highest setting.

Unregistered69 wrote:i think some of you are refusing to admit the failings of the p800/900, probably because you spent so much on it!
I too feel bad for wasting my money on the p800. I havent been able to afford a new phone so I've got to know the thing very well over the last year or so, and would hardly call it "great" or "excellent".. Best of a bad bunch? not even that. Its downfalls are so many and so annoying that they far outway any kind of benefits it may bestow the user with. Especially when you consider the price they are trying to sell it for.
This phone has caused me so many headaches its not funny, I've been stuck overseas and not been able to get home because its screwed up and wont turn on. Come on, what MODERN operating system would let itself fill up all its internal space and not be able to start again? I thought this phone was meant to be easy to use!!
Whats with only being able to run/switch between the 6 applications at the top of the screen? Like the previous guy said the user interface is far too linear, its totally disfunctional, badly thought out and not suited for a "smartphone" at all.
I'm not trying to troll or anything like that but I honestly think all the sony erricson fanboys need to wake up and admit how dismal the interface and general functionality of this phone is instead of patting each other on the back trying to convince themselves that it was a good investment.

The p800/900/910i is up to its 3rd incarnation now and they still dont seem to understand what there doing wrong. I'm sure the keyboard will be nice... but the company behind SE/P910i still seem more ERRICSON than sony. maybe one day sony will take them over properly and start making stuff that actually lives up to the sony brand.

I used to own a nokia 7650 and I thought that was annoying, but the p8/900 is much much worse... I wish I could get my old phone back!

ziegmar wrote:

However, everytime I try to think of an alternative, I fail to find one. What would any of you recommend for a good PDA cum Phone which comes in a small form factor? This is a genuine question, not a challenge. I'm seriously open to alternatives but can't seem to identify any that better the overall package of the P900/910...

vikast wrote:What would any of you recommend for a good PDA cum Phone which comes in a small form factor? This is a genuine question, not a challenge. I'm seriously open to alternatives but can't seem to identify any that better the overall package of the P900/910...

I don't know what your requirements in a smartphone are, but IMO these three are the only viable alternatives currently (or soon to be) available: PalmOne Treo 650 (I'm not sure about the availability of the GSM version), Nokia 9300 (available this month) and Qtek S100/Xda Mini/ HTC Magician/ i-mate JAM/MDA Compact (Available).

My personal choice is the 9300 because I like the form-factor, the wide screen and the large keyboard, and of course the Symbian OS. 😊

Absolutely. They ARE the only three. Out of the three I would personally go for the HTC Magicion (i-mate Jam etc) but ONLY after taking into account the cost of upgrading the RAM to 128MB - commonly available now. A PPC phone with 64MB of RAM just doesn't cut it.

The 9300 looks like a fantastic device but I could never get used to using a PDA without a stylus and I have an utterly irrational dislike of Palm devices.

Hmmm, Thanks guys. Confirms my belief that there is no clear choice (IMO at least). The XDA type looks too much like a PDA and is Microsoft. Nokia is too huge though it seems like the best package. and Treo - well I used to like the Palm V usability, so wouldn't mind trying the treo, but again, more a PDA than a phone.

Still feel that inspite of the raring gaps in the P900 (which I wholeheartedly agree with), I feel its the only sexy, compact alternative right now....IMO again!!

Bassey wrote:Absolutely. They ARE the only three. Out of the three I would personally go for the HTC Magicion (i-mate Jam etc) but ONLY after taking into account the cost of upgrading the RAM to 128MB - commonly available now. A PPC phone with 64MB of RAM just doesn't cut it.

The 9300 looks like a fantastic device but I could never get used to using a PDA without a stylus and I have an utterly irrational dislike of Palm devices.

vikast wrote:Nokia is too huge though it seems like the best package.

Measurements:
Treo 650: size: 113 x 59 x 23 mm
weight: 178 grams

P910: size: 115 x 58 x 26 mm
weight: 155 grams

9300: size: 132 x 51 x 21 mm
weight: 167 grams

The 9300 is not big at all by PDA-phone standards. It's a bit lengthy (the size of a Nokia 6310) because of the keyboard, but it is much narrower and thinner than both the Treo and the P910.