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Money Eating P800

6 replies · 2,263 views · Started 06 May 2003

Carphone Warehouse are the retailers with Orange being the Network connected to. I have a high usuage talk plan with a data bundle coevring GPRS and WAP, allowing me to use 200mins of internet services a month. However the GPRS side of the Data Bundle is NOT compatabile with the P800, therefore anyone using the GPRS thinking they will be switched off once they go over the 200mins (fair usage policy kicks in and cuts u off the service most of the time) will be ABUSED once they get their bill like i have been. TRying to resolve this problem with CPW at the moment as i have a huge bill!

Anyone got any tips or had similar problems?

[quote="M Mak"]Carphone Warehouse are the retailers with Orange being the Network connected to. I have a high usuage talk plan with a data bundle coevring GPRS and WAP, allowing me to use 200mins of internet services a month. However the GPRS side of the Data Bundle is NOT compatabile with the P800, therefore anyone using the GPRS thinking they will be switched off once they go over the 200mins (fair usage policy kicks in and cuts u off the service most of the time) will be ABUSED once they get their bill like i have been. TRying to resolve this problem with CPW at the moment as i have a huge bill!

Anyone got any tips or had similar problems?[/quote]

Let us know what happen?

What I don't understand is why GPRS is not 'compatible' with the P800 and why there should be a cut off after 200 minutes when using GPRS? GPRS billing has nothing to do with time connected, its about the amount of data transferred. Were you using GPRS or CSD to connect? How much was the bill?

On Vodafone, GPRS is measured in KB transferred, and you sign up for a certain amount, e.g., 5MB per month. You are then billed an excess (about 0.23p/kb) over that amount. There is no auto-shut off.

Minutes are normally part of the GSM contract, as would be SMS, so you might have a plan for 200 minutes talk time + 300 SMS messages, after which you start paying for each call.

On GSM, you are normally charged for data (MMS, EMS, WAP etc) at a standard rate, without a free period.

From what you indicate, looks like you have been connecting using GSM, not GPRS, so all you data will get billed.

It's the same deal it turns out I'm on. The sales people are/were VERY bad at explaining it at the beginning, possibly because they didn't really understand what they were giving to people.

There are basically two deals with Orange. There's a standard 'billed by the MB with an initial quota' tariff. But the salemen don't actually sign up people for that. What they sign people up for is the 'data access pack', which is free for the first few months, so it looks better value. What they don't mention (or don't know) is that the data access pack only covers GPRS WAP connections, so you can only really use the p800 built in net browser. If you use Opera or connect to email, you're using 'vanilla' GPRS and get billed per MB or part of a MB. I only spotted this when I got my first bill.

Much as I dislike Orange (and that's quite a lot at the moment), when I bought mine at an Orange shop on Oxford Street it was all fairly clear.

I did get the Data Access Pack, but I also signed up for 15MB a month. I had to just to get the tariff high enough to justify the discount on the phone, but I used it all and more.

I don't know what deal CPW had on, but the Orange one is pretty fair. Although it had to be more than �55 per month, that's only for the first month. I can reduce it as much as I like at a month's notice, but I am now hooked on having mobile web access and I am going to stick to my current tariff for the time being.

Well i'm happy with what i'm on and it was pointed out to me from the v start although i did get mine from the orange shop, but they passed down the savings to me cos i went on talk 2000 so i bought my P800 at �50, and my GPRS was sorted at 7mb a month together with 10mms and 120sms. But with the GPRS cut off i think you'd best look to your phone because there is a cut off time which is defaultlt set to 2mins for dialup and 5 mins for GPRS. But i'm not sure by what you mean by 200mins of internet services over GPRS though, cos i pay for mine depending on the data i recieve notthe time i spend viewing it.