Lookinh to buy a smartphone...

[quote="GrDrake"]Hey, I managed to get a some cash and im looking to buy a smartphone , i am between P800 , N3650 and N7650 , i heard P800 was faster but Nokia phones have better screen quality? Can anyone help me decide? I am looking for a Mobile/Palm kind of thing. That can play games , (Doom) :P , Listen to mp3 ect.[/quote]

I would reccommend Sony Ericcson P800. It is a great phone/pda/entertainment combination. I believe once you get it you will not look for another phone/pda at least 2 years.

[quote="GrDrake"]Hey, I managed to get a some cash and im looking to buy a smartphone , i am between P800 , N3650 and N7650 , i heard P800 was faster but Nokia phones have better screen quality? Can anyone help me decide? I am looking for a Mobile/Palm kind of thing. That can play games , (Doom) :P , Listen to mp3 ect.[/quote]

With the "demands" that you have for this device, I think the P800 is your best choice. The P800 is most "Palm-alike", works great as a mobile too, and the P800 is the only one, you can listen mp3's with

If you are looking for something like a Palm or Clie replacement, P800 is definitely your choice. The gaming experience is extraordinary as compare to Nokia, not to mention other advance feature on top of Nokia (character recognition, touch screen, stylish, ...)

However, video is not available yet, and camera quality is average.

Yeah, depends on your needs, there are many many flaws in each models, mostly differently. If you want a nice organiser and palm like phone, P800 is for you, if you want the usage of a normal phone, interchangable covers etc and more fun, get 3650 or 7650, a palm like phone. I don't mean P800 is no fun but Nokia phones are.. generally funnier. 😃 P800's camera is average and the applications are severely limited in my opinion.

I heard there is a program you can download to enable video on P800? What do you guys think about the P802? Can Symbian 6.1 programs be ported easily to 7.0 (P800)?

[quote="GrDrake"]I heard there is a program you can download to enable video on P800? What do you guys think about the P802? Can Symbian 6.1 programs be ported easily to 7.0 (P800)?[/quote]

You can play video offcourse, recording is still not possible

The P802 is only a Chinese version of the P800

Programs are not easy to port. The apps are not compatible

Well first of all your asking it on a P800 forum so Im sure you'll most likely get one response here and they will be just the same as Mine.

Go for the P800. Its the best out there as of today and the aps just keeps on getting better! 😊

[quote="GrDrake"]Listen to mp3[/quote]

The x650's has MP3 support as well, but can only play them in MONO. :roll: The P800 even support the much better Ogg Vorbis format(3'rd party) for your listening experience. So if listening to music is an important factor, your choice is simple.

Well,i agree on all points except for gaming.There are more games for series 60 devices and controling them is much easier.The p800 wins on all other counts.

I got a 7650 and then a 3650 since I was so turned off by the Sony Ericsson user interface and general performance of the software on their model that came out before the P800 (the one that has the attachable camera--don't remember the model number--but it was crap, especially having used what I still consider the wonderful Siemens 6688--which is what they called it in Hong Kong--for more than two years--you know, the one with the first built in MP3 player). I had high hopes on the P800 and was really looking forward to its release until i used the Sony Ericsson I just mentioned. However, I am hearing good things about it. Is this user interface improved over earlier sony ericsson disasters?

[quote="GhostDog"]There are more games for series 60 devices and controling them is much easier.[/quote]

[quote="GrDrake"]can play games , (Doom)[/quote]

Well, the S60 devices may have more games available, and in many cases they have better controls, but as for Doom I believe P800 is the better device. Due to the larger screen size(makes the game look more "natural"😉 and more processor power and RAM.

I've already finished playing almost two full episodes(about 15 levels) of EDoom on my P800, and Lotus49 has finished the entire version of Doom(4 episodes, about 35 levels I think), and has started playing Doom2(35 new levels).

I don't know about the x650 version, but on the P800 you can enter cheats, configure every part of the controls, rotate the screen, brightnes control, save/load a game, really smooth gameplay and good sound etc. etc.. 😃

[quote="peter"]I was so turned off by the Sony Ericsson user interface and general performance of the software on their model that came out before the P800[/quote]

You mean the T68i. The P800 has practically nothing in common with this model.

[quote="peter"]Is this user interface improved over earlier sony ericsson disasters?[/quote]

Again these two devices(T68i and P800) are entirely different. The P800 is running Symbian 7, and the user interface(UIQ) is fast and stable.

Don't even mention the t68i,it was the worst device ever made and like Raven said,it has nothing in common with the p800.

Naturally I am going to wade in on the side of the P800.

My previous phone was a T68i and I really didn't like it at all. I have given it to my partner who doesn't really use it for anything other than phoning and texting her friends.

I was thinking of a 7650 but when I actually touched one it felt flimsy and badly engineered. The button were so small I would have needed a pencil to press them. I opted for the P800.

The P800 is the best gadget I've ever bought (and Raven's right - it's great for Doom, I'm now at level 10 in Doom 2) but there are some drawbacks, but these are mostly to do with the software.

New apps are being developed all the time so the lack of a video recorder, relatively small number of games and thoroughly mediocre MP3 player are all being sorted at the moment (it's just rumour in the case of video).

When I bought my P800 I thought it felt a bit big. Compared to a phone and a PDA it's small and light and its size never bothers me.

Go on, buy a P800, you know you want to.

Hey thanks for the comments. Even though I was not interested anymore in buying the P800 as it took too long to be released and I think the N3650 is the best phone/gadget I have ever owned, you got me thinking again about looking seriously at the P800.

Well I have give up my N7650 due to lack of space, P800 answer most of my needs. A real PDA with a build-in mp3 player for me to listen to my fav song when on the move, especially waiting for my wife downstair at her office to knock off from work.

Faster CPU and expanable slot which N7650 lack of. Oh yes the bluetooth audio!!!!! Damn, why N7650 engineer did not think of that before.

8)

I agree that P800 is totally different (much advance) than T68. Depends on the purpose, I think T68's interface is much intuitive than other brands of mobile phone. I have it loaded with all my Outlook contacts, calender, and task plus emails on my way for more than a year.

I switched to P800 because of its' power even though it is more bulky.

Ok i guess im gonna buy the P800 , but i hope that video recorder thing will come out soon ... I mean it has a camera , whats stopping someone from making a program that takes a picture every second and then makes all of the pictures into an avi sequence ...

I can't comment on the Nokia phones because I have no personal experience with them.

In my opionion, the P800 is a half-ass built phone. It has great features but along with it comes bugs and some cheap electronics. The initial release is full of bugs and the sync software was poorly written. To synch with bluetooth, there is an 8 click process (minimum) to get it to work. And through this you get an error msg box every time. Two days ago, my phone's alarm started going off randomly. I don't have any alarms set and no events in the calandar. Even after selecting 'done' after each alarm, it sounds again at random intervals (every 1-120 minutes). It's almost like a virus. I will have to do a factory reset to try to clear it. The camera quality is also poor. Although adequate for viewing on the cell phone's screen (if there is no movement of your subjects and no shakyness of your hands) it could have been better designed to compete with other camera cell phones on the market. The flip is also a poor design. It's a great idea but it was poorly implemented. It's merely a device that utilizes your touchscreen by having you use buttons that are much too hard to push and do not have a good feel to them when you are trying to dial with one hand. A removable electronic flip would have been much better. A flip that has the feel of a regular cell phone's buttons and doens't use the touchscreen but one that can also be removed.

Tech support in the USA is also poor. The SE website is inaccurate, sales doesn't have all the answers to questions about the phone or addons and tech support gives inacurate information about the phone and addons that SE sells.

If I were to rate the SE P800 (taking support into account) after owning it for a few months dealing with the bugs and dealing with thier support and information services I would give the SE P800 a 2 (**) out of 5 (*****) stars.

The P800 is a great start for the future of phones but too many shortcuts were taken to get there and to keep budget costs down.

I would pay twice what I paid for the SE P800 to get a phone that had the same features but that also worked flawlessly and had better electronics.

I don't regret buying the P800 but I do find myself wanting something better. The P800 leaves me extrememly frustrated when using it at times. Once a phone comes out by a competitor that does what the SE P800 does but doesn't have the problems of the P800, the P800's days are over. SE built a device to have a device on the market with features. SE didn't build a device that would stand the test of time.

The frustrating thing about the shortcomings (and most of Cranium's comments are fair) is that they are almost all software related (eg bluetooth bugs) or are apparent when you read the phone's spec sheet (eg the keypad).

The camera is mediocre, but I only use it for snaps. If I want a decent photograph, I use my Minolta DiMage 7.