Record Conversation

Yip an app like that would rock big time!
Had extanded recoreder on the 9210i... lovely!

This process is also illegal in several areas around the world. Especially in the states. The only time it can be used is with the consent of the party being recorded or unless one can prove that their life was threatened and the recording was necessary. There is a portable device that will allow you to do this on any cell phone. I have been able to use it successfully on the P800 when I'm on a remote conference call that requires meeting minutes to be recorded. Do research and you will find it...

Bigfeat, are you sure? I was under the impression that you can record anything you want, but unless you have received prior consent it is inadmissable as evidence in a court of law. IE the actual recording is not illegal, just pointless.

You are right. One can not get arrested for making a recording, but there rules one needs to know to prevent legal issues.

The federal law makes it unlawful to record telephone conversations except in one party consent cases which permit one party consent recording by state law. What that means is a person can record their own telephone conversations without the knowledge or consent of the other party in those states that allow one party consent. However, in California both parties must consent whereas Illinois only require one and Arizona requires none.

In addition, If we live in California and you make a prank phone call to me and record it without my consent and later decide to play it over the air or make money off a prank cd I can sue you for damages. Now if I live in Cali, but you live in Illinois (requires only 1 party consent) and the call originated from there I can still sue you. That's because it now becomes a federal matter (crossing state lines) and the state with the tougher law would apply (in this case California recording law). That scenerio isn't much different from the Linda Tripp and Monica Lewinski case in which she could not use the secret recording. But as the rule goes, if you can not use something in the court of law why bother doing it to begin with. There are very few states that don't require party consent, but at least 12 of them require both party consent. Just becareful of where and how you use it.

Well thats the US covered off 😊

There are reasons to do this that arnt all cloak and dagger you know.

Directions to a house, date said for a meeting, telephone number, a loved ones voice, code to access the local banks safe etc etc

Absolutelly, I don't record a friend giving me a phone number while I'm walking down the street with a cofee, a briefcase and a Metrocard so that I can sue him if he gives me the wrong number.

Also Bigfeat, what about all those companies that when you call have messages saying "For whatever reasons this call may be monitored and recorded"? They don't need consent do they. I think the law is that you must inform people if oyu're recording, not that they must consent. If they don't thay can always hung up.

Once I told a rude costumer care guy that I was starting to record the conversation for my record and he freaked out saying that I was not allowed to do that. I answered that I was since they where announcing that they where recording me. He passed me through to some big manager and not only they HAD to accept my recording the conversation but I got a month of free cable...

I think I understand the US rules now, federal system makes life soooo easy lol

yeah I agree that not all reasons for taping are dodgy, but it is the same arguement as encryption of data - whilst most people will use it for perfectly acceptable reasons, there are some people who will use it for damage and harm. Tightrope issue if you ask me.

Still, would be a most useful feature.

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Also Bigfeat, what about all those companies that when you call have messages saying "For whatever reasons this call may be monitored and recorded"? They don't need consent do they. I think the law is that you must inform people if oyu're recording, not that they must consent. If they don't thay can always hung up.
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That phrase usually goes like this "This call may be monitored for quality control purposes..blah blah". In that case the call is intended for internal purposes. Meaning the intent is to allow the company to evaluate how calls are conducted to improve its customer service. For that matter one can always use that against them. For instance, if a customer rep is rude to you or gave you misinformation you may ask a manager to review the recorded conversation. In that case they would mostly side with you and oblige to whatever you want because they would not take the time or resources to retrieve any voice recording. I have run into situations were a customer rep has rejected a recording. But in any case consent is still required. So if you hear that msg and you still decide to proceed with the call then you have technically given them consent. That's because they did foreworn of a recording that may occur as soon as you talk to one of their representatives. However, as soon as you hang up the phone you obviously wouldn't get far enough for them to record you.

So if you ever run into a situation where you hear that msg and a customer rep decides to be an asshole I would suggest you demand to speak to a supervisor and ask them to review the tape. Get a name and employee number and let them know you intend to follow-up on whether they reviewed it or not. I can almost guarantee you they will cop out and give into whatever it takes to make you happy. If they say they don't have to review the recording tell them that you have consented to the recording therefore you have equal access to the contents of the recording that pertains to your person. Federal law would then superceed whatever internal policy they employ in their company. Therefore, your request should be granted and is protected by federal law.

In the UK we have none of this.

If a Rep is rude to you, you get Big Fred to go round and break their legs.
Works every time. 😃

[quote="JulesG"]In the UK we have none of this.

If a Rep is rude to you, you get Big Fred to go round and break their legs.
Works every time. 😃[/quote]

Are you still using Big Fred? I upgraded to Big Dave three months ago. Much greater capacity (for violence and cuelty), faster turnarounds and far more functionality (broken legs, arms, wrists).

Pah, you're still living in the 20th centuary mate!

Gentlemen (and ladies I assume), we've off-tracked here a bit.

Can I still get someone to help me out on this query - perhaps some more info on the portable recording device thats compatible with the P800.

Many thanks.

[quote="Bassey"][quote="JulesG"]In the UK we have none of this.

If a Rep is rude to you, you get Big Fred to go round and break their legs.
Works every time. 😃[/quote]

Are you still using Big Fred? I upgraded to Big Dave three months ago. Much greater capacity (for violence and cuelty), faster turnarounds and far more functionality (broken legs, arms, wrists).

Pah, you're still living in the 20th centuary mate![/quote]

hahaha

Do a google search and you'll find several external devices that will allow you to do this. The only factor you must really pay attention to is the adapter size. You can always get an adapter that is compatible with the P800.

thank you if you send this software to me...