Makes for quite interesting reading... glad the P800 is beating the SPV, not so pleased to see Nokia is still way out in front....but not sure what the definition of a smartphone from Nokia is on these figures....
Latest European Smartphone Sales Figures
Or, indeed, what Sony Ericsson's definition of a smartphone is? According to those figures they had 3410 smartphone sales in Q2 2002. I didn't know SE had a smartphone available for sale then. Unless they are including sales of products from both the former Ericsson and Sony separate ventures.
is a smartphone a phone powered by an operating system? that's always been my own definition but never found out what it was
Found this link by typing in "nokia smartphone definition" in google and it's Rafe's own Blog page! (Rafe contributes loads to this site!)
i like my definition of a smart phone 8)
[quote="nk8"]is a smartphone a phone powered by an operating system? that's always been my own definition but never found out what it was[/quote]
Every phone has a operating system, because every phone has software which requires OS.
Smartphone is a phone which has something more than just voice, text messages, calendar and some games.
I agree with nk8's definition of a "smartphone". Having a "real" open OS is what separates a smartphone from a regular mobile phone.
[quote="Raven"]I agree with nk8's definition of a "smartphone". Having a "real" open OS is what separates a smartphone from a regular mobile phone.[/quote]
yay, thanks, about saying that a smartphone has more than text games, and stuff, is still too vague because you'll be mentioning a lot, like being able to install applications and stuff, but yeah, a real OS is the way i think of it, just as windows on a pc, mac os on a mac, we gots' symbian on p800, and if you say this, people will think of the capabilities of windows on pc, like have the ability to install stuff, watch vids, etc
A German actually calls a phone a smartphone when it has a touchscreen or a fullsize qwerty keyboard.
I actually think this is rather stupid. Only the P800, the N9210, XDA and the Treo are smartphones to them, the N3650 and N7650 aren't :P
[quote="Bassey"] Unless they are including sales of products from both the former Ericsson and Sony separate ventures.[/quote]
That'll be it, and the smartphone will be the R380
To me, a 'smartphone' is a phone that i) enables you to have lots (more than the usual 200) of contacts and ii) diverse information about each contact (eg postal addresses, email addresses, company info etc) rather than one entry for 'Dave work' and another for 'Dave mobile' and another for 'Dave home', iii) the ability to download/upload emails and possibly iv) WAP.
I had the R380 previously and it obviously had a touchscreen, contacts database (syncable to a PC), the ability to download/upload emails and WAP. This to me is a smartphone, although not the touchscreen.
The P800 is a combination PDA/smartphone which goes one step further. (All?) PDAs have touchscreens, and that and the ability to install your own software (third party) is what makes it a PDA I think.
Nowadays, the term 'smartphone' may also be restricted (at least when applied to 'newer' phones) to those phones that have additional features like a camera, MMS and GPRS/3G.
[quote="Lantana"]To me, a 'smartphone' is a phone that i) enables you to have lots (more than the usual 200) of contacts and ii) diverse information about each contact (eg postal addresses, email addresses, company info etc) rather than one entry for 'Dave work' and another for 'Dave mobile' and another for 'Dave home', iii) the ability to download/upload emails and possibly iv) WAP.
I had the R380 previously and it obviously had a touchscreen, contacts database (syncable to a PC), the ability to download/upload emails and WAP. This to me is a smartphone, although not the touchscreen.
The P800 is a combination PDA/smartphone which goes one step further. (All?) PDAs have touchscreens, and that and the ability to install your own software (third party) is what makes it a PDA I think.
Nowadays, the term 'smartphone' may also be restricted (at least when applied to 'newer' phones) to those phones that have additional features like a camera, MMS and GPRS/3G.[/quote]
your definition might not be totally true, the nokia 7110 allowed 1000 contacts for instance, it's not mentioning anything about the open OS
From www.canalys.com
Terms explained
Feature phone: pocket-sized device positioned primarily for voice, offers full, configurable two-way data synchronisation, but OS-based applications cannot be added without restriction.
Smart phone: pocket-sized device positioned primarily for voice, offers full, configurable two-way data synchronisation, and OS-based applications can be added without restriction.
Handheld: pocket-sized device positioned primarily for data, no integrated wireless (GSM, GPRS or 3G) capability.
Wireless handheld: pocket-sized device positioned primarily for data, integrated wireless (GSM, GPRS, or 3G) capability.
Data-centric devices: handhelds & wireless handhelds
Voice-centric devices: feature phones & smart phones
Mobile device market: handhelds, wireless handhelds, feature phones & smart phones
EMEA: Europe, Middle East & Africa
I think that is a pretty good definition for a smartphone.
http://www.canalys.com/pr/r2003071.htm
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thanks gramma, we got the phone with open os, 8)
[quote="GrammatonCleric"]
Feature phone: pocket-sized device positioned primarily for voice, offers full, configurable two-way data synchronisation, but OS-based applications cannot be added without restriction.
Smart phone: pocket-sized device positioned primarily for voice, offers full, configurable two-way data synchronisation, and OS-based applications can be added without restriction.
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That's exactly what we've been saying, mate.. 8)
The difference between a regular mobile phone("feature phone"😉 and a smartphone being that one of them has a "real" OPEN OS -which of course means the ability to add applications "without restrictions". A regular mobile phone, even with Java, will have restrictions regarding the use of third party applications.
You cannot call a phone a "smartphone" unless it runs either Symbian, Palm, Wind*ws, Linux etc... -no matter how much memory or features it has.
The R380 has a symbian OS but you can't add applications to it! And most people would call that a smartphone.