i'mwaiting a few Weeks for support of Menu, Dialogs for Serie60-OPL... but i'm not sure whether support is comming...
du you know more about the release strategy ? Currently we are at V.025 with no own development kit. Is there one under development ?
Currently the Series 60 version of OPL has no menu and dialog support. There is an alpha that has menu support, but it is not very stable. The probelm is the FEP code (which takes the signals from the keyboard, processes them and passes them to CPU) is not working with OPL, whihc menas while direct access is fine, menus and dialogs (which MUST use FEP) are not working.
Once the runtime is in a good condition and has no obvious gaps, that would be the time to look at developer enviroments. For the moment a text editor and the command line tools from the 9210 SDK will compile OPO files that run on the Series 60.
[quote="Ewan-FreEPOC"]
Once the runtime is in a good condition and has no obvious gaps, that would be the time to look at developer enviroments. For the moment a text editor and the command line tools from the 9210 SDK will compile OPO files that run on the Series 60.[/quote]
I personally don't see much value in having a developer environment on a series 60 device. Even with a normal keypad, I wouldn't want to be writing code on the device! With the communicator phones that have a full querty keyboard, it makes sense. But a series 60 phone?
--Jason
I personally don't see much value in having a developer environment on a series 60 device. Even with a normal keypad, I wouldn't want to be writing code on the device! With the communicator phones that have a full querty keyboard, it makes sense. But a series 60 phone?--Jason
Kind of agree. What you really need is a simple switching mechanism in the emulator; a coding mode using the 9210 skin or our hybrid 9210/netBook skin (see dpNote0010 at www.dp.com.my); and a testing mode using an S60 skin.
But we are heavily engaged in a project at the moment so it will take a few months for us to start developing for Series 60 seriously.
cheers
Martin
Martin,
It's probably going to take some time to get the FEP problem sorted out, so hopfully at that point you r team might be able to offer some help in coding the PC tools. Suprisingly, I have a few ideas on what is going to be needed. Let's start a seperate thread for a PC Dev Enviroment Wishlist...
sorry, i'm not "waiting" for an on board Development tool for the Serie60.
It would be great if we do not habve to install the 9200 DevKit on the PC.
Does Anyone know wether the guys from www.neuon.com are still active ?
They developed some great tools for ER5 (Nmpd etc.). It would be great if these OPX are available on Symbian 6.x and 7.x....
Peter, there is a Command line compilation tool for use on text files that you can use. See the Source Force page for details
It's probably going to take some time to get the FEP problem sorted out, so hopfully at that point you r team might be able to offer some help in coding the PC tools. Suprisingly, I have a few ideas on what is going to be needed. Let's start a seperate thread for a PC Dev Enviroment Wishlist...
In fact, Ewan, I would not be too worried about the FEP. As long as the graphics commands work as expected, I imagine you could easily design your own dialogue routines. I mean
- Use of the Menu system which is a key component of Series 80, UIQ and Eikon is really alien to Series 60 style guide anyway. It's a bit like when Martin Tasker showed that he can create Eikon ToolBar buttons into UIQ - just for the heck of it.
[Amendment 16 Dec 03: I have seen the light...I am withdrawing the above comment...the Menues in Series 60 are of course also a Menu system, albeit they look quite different, and OPL now supports it.]
- Dialogs will not be in box form a la UIQ and Eikon but rather controlled by the CBA a la Series 80 but with two buttons in lieu of four.
Sure, it would be nicer if they had support for porting purposes and the feeling of completeness, but really, their current omission is not a showstopper. And you have sort of demonstrated that already yourself in Vexed.
It is more important for us that the OPXs work, in particular System, Data, Buffer, DBase, Bmp and Convert.
cheers
Martin
[quote="Ewan-FreEPOC"]Martin, It's probably going to take some time to get the FEP problem sorted out, so hopfully at that point you r team might be able to offer some help in coding the PC tools. Suprisingly, I have a few ideas on what is going to be needed. Let's start a seperate thread for a PC Dev Enviroment Wishlist...[/quote]
Ewan, OK, that will be great!
cheers
Martin
Menus now active in Series 60 OPL v0.30. Sourceforge has the downloads.