256 and 512 Duo Pro

How do you them expect to do that??? lollllllllllllll Don' tyou maybe know how it works?

They use the connection of the MS DUO Reader of the P800 to connect a simple MS Reader...
If the P800 don't accept a Pro card, the jacket wouldn't change anything ot that !!! New jacket or not... there it is the same connector.

Yes, what we need is a firmware upgrade to enable DUO PRO support. From what I've heard there's been some complications with this new PRO format, and that's why SE didn't enable PRO support in the P900, but when they iron out the bugs, I'm sure a new firmware with PRO support will be available for download. Well, there's always hoping anyway... 😊

128MB just doesn't cut it these days, and will surely keep many power PDA users off the P900. The (currently) limited expansion format is the one major thing that might drive potential buyers away from SE and towards Palm OS and M$ smartphones.

Sony Ericsson, are you listening?! 😉

You got that right raven! I just got a sony Vaio laptop (japversion) with built in bluetooth and Wireless lan support of 802.11 A,B and G and built in MS reader with pro supprt! Thats why I wanted to get the pro 256 or 512! But it cant work with the phone 😞 128 just isnt enough, ande I dont want to be lagging around a spare 128 jsut for my Mp3s bec Im sure ill end up loosing it 😞

Come on.. f!!!!
For the price of a MS PRO 512mb you have a real and much better MultimediaWalkman/USBharddisk from 20GB (Archos,etc....) !!! And even cheaper if you don't want the video !!

And i don't talk about the P800 Jacket you will need then... and the price of a MS Duo PRO will be almost 30% more...

The P800 is still a phone, not a walkman. More Memory will make him even slower to use, 128mb is really the maximum acceptable memory. Even SE says so, that after that it will be a hell to use...

My phone is full a software and i still have 70mb free... i just don't use it has a Walkman (bad sound) or for MP4 (stupid because too small screen) because i bought a Archos with BigTFTscreen and 20GB, where i can put all my MP3, a lot of video (who i never use) and all my pictures

For the price of a p800 or a p900 you can buy a decent PDA and a Bluetooth,GPRS enabled phone.So why a p800/p900?

I don't want to carry three devices with me,I just want one.The p800/p900 has the potential to do all those things that a combo of devices can do.

Why should it be limited to 128 MB,Series 60 phones are not?Most of them can use MMC's up to 512 MB and the Sendo X supports SD(1GB of storage).Hardware-wise all of them are weaker then the p800/p900.

Like Raven said,I too believe that they had problems with the Duo Pro and that's why they didn't enable Pro support in the p900.

Because a P900 is just a summar and fast facelift of a P800, and that this one can't handle a MS Duo Pro and will never do!

Don't you think that, if it was possible to support it, they will have done it?? lollll
Then they will sell those super expensive DuoPro. But no, they rather let some persons complain and makes not easy profit with something they sells them self...

It is just impossible for a P8/900 to support more then 128mb, it will be a question of maximum memory capacity like for your PC motherboard... More memory will cause funstionning problem, that's all, didn't you notice that a 128mb allready slow the P800 a lot.

Think : if a good camera, a good walkman, a good PDA, a good HD are all the same size of a P800, how would you it to be possible that all those device fit perfectly in a small smartphone....
The P800 is just a phone , not a walkman or a PDA, or a Laptop, or a Camera... He just gives you some summar function all those devices, and does it the best he can.
If you want to have all those thing in one device, you will have to take what they offer you, and be sure that they do the maximum they can!! lolll

You will just have to accept his, all ready not that small, capacity and not always complaining that the offers have it and you don't...
If you are not happy with it, buy something else.... 😉

In fact i also would like tjhat my P800 does the dishes, clean my car and take the dog out.. is that not possible?? lolllll I a sure that SE wil can make magic and make it alllllll possible for me...

If you read my post properly you would've noticed that when discussing the MS Duo Pro possibilities I was not referring to the p800 or the p900 separately.I don't care if the p900 is just a facelifted p800.If the p900 gets a firmware upgrade to support Ms Duo Pro so will(should) the p800.The ARM CPU on the p800/p900 is more the capable to address more the 128 MB of memory.

I believe that MS Duo Pro was not implemented in the p900 because SE had problems with it and they didn't want to p900 to suffer the same fate as the p800 - The rumour is that the p800 was delayer because it was SE's last minute decision to implement a MS Duo slot.

Think : if a good camera, a good walkman, a good PDA, a good HD are all the same size of a P800, how would you it to be possible that all those device fit perfectly in a small smartphone....
The P800 is just a phone , not a walkman or a PDA, or a Laptop, or a Camera... He just gives you some summar function all those devices, and does it the best he can.
If you want to have all those thing in one device, you will have to take what they offer you, and be sure that they do the maximum they can!! lolll

The p900 doesn't have the camera quality of a good camera,good walkman or a good HDD(The PDA quality is arguable) but it has less the average camera,less then average sound system and less then average storage abilities.I think you can have all those things in one decent sized device.

You will just have to accept his, all ready not that small, capacity and not always complaining that the offers have it and you don't...
If you are not happy with it, buy something else.... 😉

Accept what?Like I said,the p800/p900 hardware is more then capable to address memory capacities higher then 128 MB and it probably will.Symbian can address up to 2 TB.

In fact i also would like tjhat my P800 does the dishes, clean my car and take the dog out.. is that not possible?? lolllll I a sure that SE wil can make magic and make it alllllll possible for me...

I don't think that sarcasm is really needed.

blue8300, Please stop your misinformation.

Originally posted by blue8300
Because a P900 is just a summar and fast facelift of a P800, and that this one can't handle a MS Duo Pro and will never do!

You have no way of knowing that. Don't make such accusations without any proper proof.

Originally posted by blue8300
Don't you think that, if it was possible to support it, they will have done it?? lollll

We already explained to you that the reason for SE not to support the DUO PRO (yet) might be due to some early problems with the format.

Originally posted by blue8300
It is just impossible for a P8/900 to support more then 128mb, it will be a question of maximum memory capacity like for your PC motherboard... More memory will cause funstionning problem, that's all, didn't you notice that a 128mb allready slow the P800 a lot.

This is just a load of BS. From my experience, a 128MB DUO with 100MB or 100KB free makes absolutely no difference to the performance of the P800. The performance is dependant on the INTERNAL memory.

Originally posted by blue8300
The P800 is just a phone , not a walkman or a PDA, or a Laptop, or a Camera... He just gives you some summar function all those devices, and does it the best he can.

Do you even own a P800/P900? None of us here bought this device as "just a phone". Obviously you have to sacrifice some things in order to have it all in one device. One device dedicated to just one purpose will of course, in most cases, do a better job than a device with multible purposes. And if you actually owned a P800 you would know that it certainly is not any less powerfull as a music player than a "Walkman". The sound is perfectly adequate for it to be used as a portable music player, but again the usefulness is limited by the use of its expansion format. Again, 128MB just doesn't cut it.

Originally posted by blue8300
You will just have to accept his, all ready not that small, capacity and not always complaining that the offers have it and you don't...
If you are not happy with it, buy something else....

With this mentality everything would just stay the same and technology would never have gotten where it is today if people like you ran the industry.

You need to take a look around you and see where the "smartphone"/"converged devices" industry is going. You will then notice that SE is the only manufactor to use an expansion format limited to 128MB. This needs to change if they want to stay ahead in this industry.

Oh yes i have a P800 (march 2003), and my P900 is ordered in Zwitserland and will be delivered wednesday lolll (699�)
My P800 is completed with Parrot BT carkit, 32mb and128mb (dark blue), graycover, a LOT of software, Silicone Jacket and a BT dongle (the one form my keyboard 😉 )

I even own(ed) a other OS Symbian, a R380s (great phone !!!!)... the first real smartphone with the Nokia Communicator.

And i bought all those phone just because they are the best all-in-one solution to have always with me everyday... but i still have the real thing near me when i need them (work or vacation) : a real HD MP3, a real classic Camera and a Digital one, a laptop when needed.. no PDA...

SE ALWAYS claimed that it is a hardware (processor) problem that makes the P800 impossible to support more then 128mb.
And YES, you can feel the difference between 16 and 128 mb !! Look just at the start and applications-seek speed... i was not talking about how much it was on it, but about the size of the MS Duo!
BTW... how more program on your MS Duo, how less free memory on your intern HD too!!! (strange but it's like that).

You can keep complaining and dreaming about Duo Pro, but there is NO reason that SE don't make it compatible if it was possible (with this hardware), just accept that fact! lolll
And that "problem with DuoPro" thing is just another excuse to not accept the hard reality ...

Sounds adequate?? lollll Come on, maybe when using other headset (a good one) and OggPlayer is it less sh*tty, but it really can stand the comparaison with an iPod or Archos....

Video? come on .. such a small screen !! even a 13" tft is too small to see a film with some comfort... Taking video?? ok, if you like a pixellized and big as a stamp picture, then it is good... loll

nb :
Most of the people don't use MP3 or MP4 on their P800, and they don't complain 😉 a 32 is even enough then... i just get my 128 as a gift, and it is only full for 45mb lollll
nb2 :
i like the P800, bu t i understand that there a re limits to thechnology at this time.. all what we want will be possible in a few year, maybe next year with the REAL NEW P-serie.. not that small FACE_LIFT of the P800 called a P900

Originally posted by blue8300
SE ALWAYS claimed that it is a hardware (processor) problem that makes the P800 impossible to support more then 128mb.

Yeah right... Where did they say that? And how do you explain that devices with a LESS powerfull processor can handle more than 128MB?

Originally posted by blue8300
And YES, you can feel the difference between 16 and 128 mb !! Look just at the start and applications-seek speed... i was not talking about how much it was on it, but about the size of the MS Duo!

It's been a long time since I used a 16MB DUO, but I cannot remember any significant difference in speed.

Originally posted by blue8300
You can keep complaining and dreaming about Duo Pro, but there is NO reason that SE don't make it compatible if it was possible (with this hardware), just accept that fact! lolll
And that "problem with DuoPro" thing is just another excuse to not accept the hard reality ...

Your statements are far from what could ever be considered as "facts".

Originally posted by blue8300
Sounds adequate?? lollll Come on, maybe when using other headset (a good one) and OggPlayer is it less sh*tty, but it really can stand the comparaison with an iPod or Archos....

You would have to be a serious "audiophile" not to consider the playback quality (even with the bundled headset) of the P800 as adequate.

Originally posted by blue8300
Video? come on .. such a small screen !! even a 13" tft is too small to see a film with some comfort... Taking video?? ok, if you like a pixellized and big as a stamp picture, then it is good... loll

No one has even mentioned video playback or recording in this topic, where did this come from? With the proper encoding and settings, video quality is acceptable IMO, but much better in the P900 which has an additional processor for this (and other (multimedia)) purposes, as well as a much improved screen.

Originally posted by blue8300
nb :
Most of the people don't use MP3 or MP4 on their P800, and they don't complain 😉 a 32 is even enough then... i just get my 128 as a gift, and it is only full for 45mb lollll

So, by this statement I must assume that you've done a serious market research on the matter of what "most people do" with their P800?

Originally posted by blue8300
nb2 :
i like the P800, bu t i understand that there a re limits to thechnology at this time.. all what we want will be possible in a few year

The point of this thread is that this technology is already very much AVAILABLE, and is used by every single other smartphone/PDA manufacturer.

lol and he keep whinning, discussing and complaining! lollll
If the Technology is available with other devices... go buy those one then!!

The Hardware of the P8/900 will not allow more then 128mb, NOTHING to change about that !! lol
TRY TO ACCEPT THAT!! SE CAN'T DO ANYTINGH TO CHANGE THAT !!!
You like the P8/900, then you always will have 128 maximum, need more, buy something else

I know something like 15 people who use it, and NO ONE listen to MP3 with it... in the fora, you can see that the ask for more memory and a camcoder always comes from a minority of users, mostly young ones... student for example, who don't really need a P8/900 for what he is really made off : help you in your work

Originally posted by blue8300
lol and he keep whinning, discussing and complaining! lollll

The only one I see whining and complaining here is you. Unlike your teenage self, we are grown-ups who discuss somthing in a grown-up manner (which you seem unable to do). This topic was started by someone who wants a higher capacity DUO, and you reply only with insulting and childish comments, that in stead of asking for more, he should just accept some truth (invented by you) that the P800 hardware isn't capable of addressing more than 128MB external memory.

Originally posted by blue8300
The Hardware of the P8/900 will not allow more then 128mb, NOTHING to change about that !! lol
TRY TO ACCEPT THAT!! SE CAN'T DO ANYTINGH TO CHANGE THAT !!!
You like the P8/900, then you always will have 128 maximum, need more, buy something else

Please stop talking about things you obviously know nothing about. You're getting repetitive and boring, and have yet to provide a single piece of valid information as to why the hardware would have such limits.

Originally posted by blue8300
I know something like 15 people who use it, and NO ONE listen to MP3 with it...

So the 15 users you know is comparable to more than 1 million users world wide? I even know of people buying a P800 SOLELY to use as a phone and MP3 player -Weird? -Yes, but no more so than your posse of 15 that probably don't even know it can act as a proper music player.

Originally posted by blue8300
in the fora, you can see that the ask for more memory and a camcoder always comes from a minority of users, mostly young ones... student for example, who don't really need a P8/900 for what he is really made off : help you in your work

As usual (by now), you make no sense what so ever. No one in this topic has brought up that they need more memory for recording videos. If I were to judge a person by the way he expresses himself in writing, you certainly seem to be the most immature one in this thread. You seem to be here only looking to start an argument.

You might not realise this, but more memory can also be quite vital to "help you in your work" if you need to store large documents and other work related information and reference literature etc.

But it so happens that the P800/P900 was designed not only as work horse, but maybe mostly as a multimedia device, and as such a 128MB memory limit is especially not acceptable these days.

I just like to give my support to Raven and thanks for joining the discussion.I was geting frustrated by blue8300's ignorant replies.

Ignorant? loll SURE 😉

Ignorant why? loll

-because i accept the face the hard reality of business and technology world? SE is just doing what is best for them.
If making clients happy without having problems them self is possible, they wil do that. If it is not possible and that the right way for them or their possiblity says that it can't be done, believe me, they sure did thought about it along time!! No Duo Pro is a desicion they had to make.. THE END
Like us, P800 users are important for them?? we are a small minority who don't bring so much money in and our expectation are much toooo big to be important.

-because i don't agree with all your "absloute needed (?lolll)" dreams of new possibilty?? 128 is for the most of the user more then enough...

-because i do accept the limit of my phone just like he is build and don't fantasm about capacity he can't and would never have??

-because i just read and says what SE officialy says? What btw always has been thrue till now (cfr. Duo Pro, Camcoder,....)

-because i use my phone as a SMARTPHONE (not a multimedia phone like you are dreaming of!), what he is build for.

-because i don't have your teenagers hope of playing more music on my smartphone gsm.
What i in fact can do!! 2 hours of music is more then enough, i can't even imagine when i would have time of reason to listen to music on my smartphone... loll How much user a listening to music on their P8/900?? think just about that and maybe make a POL, i think 10% maximum. And it is not because YOPU did bought it for music that we all did.. i needed the Outlook function, all the rest is welcome, but is still gagdet.

Seems to me that the only closed minds and ignorants are you guys... just whinning and complaining without accepting the hard reality. THE P8/900 ARE JUST SMARTPHONE, no mutlimedia tools, and YOU WILL have to accept he NEVER will support more then 128mb, stop being childish and discussing like babies!

Mammy, mammy, i want to new toy, and i want it fast, cheap and doing everything I WANT !! wouinnnnwouinnnn.

ROFLOL ROFLOL.. you guys are toooo funny to be thrue !!

Originally posted by blue8300
Ignorant? loll SURE 😉

Ignorant why? loll

-because i accept the face the hard reality of business and technology world? SE is just doing what is best for them.
If making clients happy without having problems them self is possible, they wil do that. If it is not possible and that the right way for them or their possiblity says that it can't be done, believe me, they sure did thought about it along time!! No Duo Pro is a desicion they had to make.. THE END
Like us, P800 users are important for them?? we are a small minority who don't bring so much money in and our expectation are much toooo big to be important.

-because i don't agree with all your "absloute needed (?lolll)" dreams of new possibilty?? 128 is for the most of the user more then enough...

-because i do accept the limit of my phone just like he is build and don't fantasm about capacity he can't and would never have??

-because i just read and says what SE officialy says? What btw always has been thrue till now (cfr. Duo Pro, Camcoder,....)

-because i use my phone as a SMARTPHONE (not a multimedia phone like you are dreaming of!), what he is build for.

-because i don't have your teenagers hope of playing more music on my smartphone gsm.
What i in fact can do!! 2 hours of music is more then enough, i can't even imagine when i would have time of reason to listen to music on my smartphone... loll How much user a listening to music on their P8/900?? think just about that and maybe make a POL, i think 10% maximum. And it is not because YOPU did bought it for music that we all did.. i needed the Outlook function, all the rest is welcome, but is still gagdet.

Seems to me that the only closed minds and ignorants are you guys... just whinning and complaining without accepting the hard reality. THE P8/900 ARE JUST SMARTPHONE, no mutlimedia tools, and YOU WILL have to accept he NEVER will support more then 128mb, stop being childish and discussing like babies!

Mammy, mammy, i want to new toy, and i want it fast, cheap and doing everything I WANT !! wouinnnnwouinnnn.

ROFLOL ROFLOL.. you guys are toooo funny to be thrue !!

Actually, I was told by one of the SE guys at the Symbian expo that the 128mb limitation is in the Duo format itself, the P800/900 would be able to address more than 128mb of memory, but there are software limitations which don't allow it to do so, bit like the Nokia 9210(i) which has a software limitation of 128mb MMC, even though you can now get higher capacity.

Take a look at the 3650 which can now handle above 128mb MMC, but it was originally stated by Nokia that it couldn't handle above 128mb cap MMC cards, but now all of a sudden they all do?...perhaps something to do with a firmware change?..I'm not a 3650 user so I can't comment too much.

With the change from Duo to Duo pro format, I certainly think this is entirely possible with a software update from SE, if they actually do it or not is another matter.

Blue8300: I do not think the tone you are taking with the other members of the forum is exactly adult, please try and remain civil..we are all entitled to our own opinions, there is no call for getting childish.

Yes,you are ignorant,you obviously don't have a clue how technology works,do you even know what is memory addressing?

because i accept the face the hard reality of business and technology world? SE is just doing what is best for them.
If making clients happy without having problems them self is possible, they wil do that. If it is not possible and that the right way for them or their possiblity says that it can't be done, believe me, they sure did thought about it along time!! No Duo Pro is a desicion they had to make.. THE END
Like us, P800 users are important for them?? we are a small minority who don't bring so much money in and our expectation are much toooo big to be important.

And where did you see SE saying no Duo Pro,i certainly haven't found any official information claiming that the Duo Pro will never work?Minority?I think that p800/p900 users are SE's best horse.Sony has been losing money this year,SE hasn't,try imagine what is the reason for that.

-because i don't agree with all your "absloute needed (?lolll)" dreams of new possibilty?? 128 is for the most of the user more then enough...

I'm guessing that you are the owner of some website or organization that deals with statistics and your posts are based oon information you gathered from iterviewing a large percent of p800/p900 owners.

-because i do accept the limit of my phone just like he is build and don't fantasm about capacity he can't and would never have??

What limit are you talking about?

-because i just read and says what SE officialy says? What btw always has been thrue till now (cfr. Duo Pro, Camcoder,....)

Once again where did SE say that MS Duo Pro will not be supported?The only person in this thread who mentioned the camcorder was you.

-because i use my phone as a SMARTPHONE (not a multimedia phone like you are dreaming of!), what he is build for.

This thread is about the 128 MB limit in MS Duo and whether or not the p800/p900 will support MS Duo Pro not whether or not the p800/p900 is a multimedia device.

BTW:The P900 is advertised as a strong Multimedia and Gaming device.

-because i don't have your teenagers hope of playing more music on my smartphone gsm.
What i in fact can do!! 2 hours of music is more then enough, i can't even imagine when i would have time of reason to listen to music on my smartphone... loll How much user a listening to music on their P8/900?? think just about that and maybe make a POL, i think 10% maximum. And it is not because YOPU did bought it for music that we all did.. i needed the Outlook function, all the rest is welcome, but is still gagdet.

Why don't you go ahead and make your poll?Like i said,the multimedia aspects of the p800/p900 is not what this thread is about.I don't own a p800/p900 so your claim that i bought the p800/p900 for listening to music is not true.

Seems to me that the only closed minds and ignorants are you guys... just whinning and complaining without accepting the hard reality. THE P8/900 ARE JUST SMARTPHONE, no mutlimedia tools, and YOU WILL have to accept he NEVER will support more then 128mb, stop being childish and discussing like babies!

Like i said the p900 is advertised as a strong Multimedia and Gaming device and the p800 has a mp3 player and a movie player built in,but that is not the issue here.I don't have to accept anything and judging from what you wrote

Mammy, mammy, i want to new toy, and i want it fast, cheap and doing everything I WANT !! wouinnnnwouinnnn.

ROFLOL ROFLOL.. you guys are toooo funny to be thrue !!

No,i'd say we are to good to be true,if it was any other forum you'd have probably been banned by now

SE ALWAYS said and keep saying that 128mb (WP, mails, communication,...) is the maximum and when you mail with SE service center, you always get the same answer.. NO DUO PRO ability on a P800... and will NEVER be

I know hope make you leave, but just accept THAT FACT !!! NO DUO PRO EVER.. lollll

And yes we only are a very small minority.. a very very small minority... SE makes his money not on such phone but on phone like a T610 or a T300, let us say mass production products not with a phone who only can attract a very small public and who is expensive to produce, cost much to much in Garanty/service and not sell in big quantity. He is to expensive, complicated and professionnal for that!! He is just a top of the range, a image that SE needs to concurre with Nokia...

And I really think that you don't use your phone for professionnal uses.. just playing and showing with it... i
I think he is HUGE, UGLY (even in gray) and everybody laugh with you when you show it but he is the best smartphone... that's wayu i use it

My best software on it is that one, i think you don't even know his existence or utility 😉 : http://www.visiarc.com/
That's the one with "Outlook" and QuickOffice (excell) that i am using the most...
Almost no game (3 or 4) and sure no music or video. That's for teenagers and spoiled childs like you!

Hello all! 😛

I am new here but very active on other forum (Esato,...) and i was suprised to see this thread all up in the list.
On other forum they stopped allready a long time ago to discuss about this, because it is clear that the P800 never will accepted more then 128. This has allready been discussed a lot.
Pro and Contra have some good points, but the fact is there and SE says NO for ever....

You all are right to expect some changes, but Blue is quite right that it will never come and his idea about SE's salespolitic is quite right too... They sure do what the best is for them. We will have to wait for the real new P1000(?), and his all new hardware to see real changes. I am sure that one will fillfull all your expectations 😉

And maybe this stupid discussion about 256 and 512 has to stop for ever...

I do have a 32mb and it's more then enough for me. Some games and just the right programs, the one a really use. I also never listen to MP3 or Ogg on my phone.

And by the way! SE didn't lose money this year!!! They make profit... thanks to mass products like the T610
🙄

That's astonishing lulu! You use exactly the same phrases and gramma as Blue in this and your other posts. Did you go to the same school? 😃

lolll maybe? who knows.... and where will you go to school? 😛

Funny enough,they even have the same IP.Isn't that childish?

lulu ginzburg or blue8300,which ever you want,have you ever read the p800 whitepaper?It says that currently the MS Duo format is limited to 128 MB but it will reach higher capacities in the near future.And they are only referring to MS Duo not MS Duo Pro.SE has never said that the p800/p900 will not support the MS Duo Pro format.

I know hope make you leave, but just accept THAT FACT !!! NO DUO PRO EVER.. lollll

Nope,its not a fact,its just your opinion,wrong i might add.

And yes we only are a very small minority.. a very very small minority... SE makes his money not on such phone but on phone like a T610 or a T300, let us say mass production products not with a phone who only can attract a very small public and who is expensive to produce, cost much to much in Garanty/service and not sell in big quantity. He is to expensive, complicated and professionnal for that!! He is just a top of the range, a image that SE needs to concurre with Nokia...

Minority?Small public?SE has sold over a Milion units.Is that a minority?Is that a small public?

And I really think that you don't use your phone for professionnal uses.. just playing and showing with it... i
I think he is HUGE, UGLY (even in gray) and everybody laugh with you when you show it but he is the best smartphone... that's wayu i use it

My best software on it is that one, i think you don't even know his existence or utility 😉 : http://www.visiarc.com/
That's the one with "Outlook" and QuickOffice (excell) that i am using the most...
Almost no game (3 or 4) and sure no music or video. That's for teenagers and spoiled childs like you!

You are not reading my post properly,again.I said i don't own a p800,so i don't have nothing to show-off with.You are mind reading now,eh?Oh,i've been using QuickWord on my 7650 for a very long time now.

And by the way! SE didn't lose money this year!!! They make profit... thanks to mass products like the T610

lulu ginzburg or blue8300,you are not reading my posts properly,again.I never said that SE lost money,i said that Sony lost money,SE gained market share,the main reason for that was sucessfull sales of the p800 which like i said before sold in a lot more then milion units.

PS: It's very obvious that you are ignorant and don't have a clue what you are talking about.I don't see the need for hiding under different username in order to enforce your opinion.If you have nothing reasonable to say,please leave the discussion for the ones who are civil enough to know what a discussion is.

Originally posted by lulu ginzburg
I am new here but very active on other forum (Esato,...)

That makes sense, lulu ginzburg AKA blue8300, since that forum is pretty much run by overcompensating 12 year olds where your kind of behaviour is common and more or less accepted. This however, is a very different forum where your kind of behaviour is NOT accepted, so I'd suggest you go back to where you came from.

Just because you don't need, or want more memory, others surely do. So there is absolutely no reason for you to come here and put down the people who want/need more memory. You're just coming off as ignorant when you start arguing against grown-ups. Please find yourself something better to do, and if you ever get the urge to act childish and obnoxious again, please just use those forums where this behaviour is accepted.

Ta ta.

Originally posted by GhostDog
I was geting frustrated by blue8300's ignorant replies.

So am I! Can't we ban this guy or something🙄

I'm very satisfied with my P800, and as soon as the P900 becomes available here in Holland, I will buy that one too. But I don't see what's wrong about wanting higher capacity memory cards...

It may surprise you, but I do use the MP3-player! And I am a student, and it helps me very much with the work I do here at my university.

I agree with Raven. There is only one/two person(s) childish here, and that is Blue8300/Lulu

Why should blue and me be childish?? 😉

Because we don't whine and complain like teenagers and babies? We just do accept that 128mb has to be a technical limit that SonyEricsson has with the P8/900 concept? Like the problem of CarProfile in BT... it is also a conceptual problem, otherwise it was integrated in the P8/900 like in a T610.

Who is here childish and constantly discussing and complaining about something that never will change?

nb: i don't know this blue or maybe i do and don't know it was him... same IP will have to say we work in the same firm! And we are 42 using this line (14 have a P800)

Well,banning him/them is an option,its very obvious that he/they don't read my posts so i won't bother replying.

Originally posted by GhostDog

I believe that MS Duo Pro was not implemented in the p900 because SE had problems with it and they didn't want to p900 to suffer the same fate as the p800

Accept what?Like I said,the p800/p900 hardware is more then capable to address memory capacities higher then 128 MB and it probably will.

See what YOU wrote...

You just hope and would like to believe that a firmware is just what he needed to support more then 128mb. And you don't want to accept the reality that he, like SE has always said, never will support more then 128mb.
You are so sure he can, but can't show us no prove of that! Just guessing and trying to find technical reason and solution, complaining against SE...lol
The only think we can see is that SE can't do it works!

I believe that there is a technical reason for that non supporting Pro, and it will be a conceptual one. Youwonna change that? Chnage the all concept and hardware/fsoftware. That will be the real limit why he will never support more then 128mb.
Otherwise they will have sure done it!!! Why wouldn't they??
And it has nothing to do with you guess and rumour about problems with Duo Pro... they works perfectly in other devices. That's our prove

😃 😃 lollll bye loser

Look, my cousin works for R & D at nokia and so far as i can tell he knows his stuff. He btw has a P800 and has persuded me not to buy a P900 becuase he also reckons that there will be a shed load of updates and stuff for the P800.

He told me that it's very well possible and quite easily (though not 2 easily and not 2 cost effectively) possible to get Duo pro's working on P800/900 phones. He's actually wasted time thinking about this. Wasted time because he works for nokia.

So after all that i'm inclined to agree with Ghost dog and delta.
Blue or lulu (is that depending on whether it's the weekend?) you need to grow up mate and stop putting a downer on things because there is always progress. SE may not want to support P800 users so much but they're not stupid enough (surely) to abandon them.

Even though my P800 looks a bit cheap compared to my bro's soon to be bought P900 i'm sticking with it. Also i'm a bit skint so it's hardly like i had a choice in the first place.

Still some hope for a 256MB card for the Px00!
http://www.clubsonyericsson.com/featured/simo/simo_duo256.jpg

This picture was taken at a Spanish event (comparible to CeBIT)