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6600 As Modem for Palm

14 replies · 6,465 views · Started 08 November 2003

Has anyone gotten the 6600 to act as a GPRS modem for a palm pilot (any kind), through infared or bluetooth? At all?

My computer seems to have no problem doing it, but no-way with the palm pilot...

I also have this problem. I have tried the Palm Tungsten's Phonelink utility (declaring Nokia 3650 as the phone's model). It connects but a soon as I try to open a web page in WebPro everything disconnects.
I have tried also CoMa (by 79bmedia.com) using the 3650 settings, and nothing, doesn't even connect.
I have asked Palm's support to help, and they have sent me a configuration that should work with ANY mobile phone, but nothing.
I am desperate, I cannot find a way to connect the Palm and the Nokia 6600. This is for me fundamental, as I use the Palm Tungsten T3 for managing my life, but wothout connecting to the web it is useless. Before the Nokia 6600 I had an Ericsson R520m and everything worked perfectly...!!!
Can anybody help clarifying this issue?
Are there special initialization strings for the 6600? What the hell can be so different in this phone compared to all others?!?
Please help.

I don't have the answer for this problem but I have the same issue on my ClieT625 (Palm OS) and an idea what's causing the problem.

In Prefs:connection:'your mobile name':edit:details

there is the init string 'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","wap.vodafone.co.uk"

I belive this string should be different for the 6600, the only problem is I don't know what to change it to !

Originally posted by jez000
I don't have the answer for this problem but I have the same issue on my ClieT625 (Palm OS) and an idea what's causing the problem.

In Prefs:connection:'your mobile name':edit:details

there is the init string 'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","wap.vodafone.co.uk"

I belive this string should be different for the 6600, the only problem is I don't know what to change it to !

I've tried that string, and about a hundred others, and none of them seem to work on the palm. All of them work great when entered from the PC via a bluetooth serial connection, though. The number of standards deviated from in this phone by Nokia is just amazing.

I have tested dial-up connections from th Palm through the 6600 using bluetooth, and everything works perfectly.
It is just GPRS that does not work...
I also can confirm that from PC there is no problem using the mentioned string.
I also read the PocketPC handhelds can connect using 6600 with that string.
It is apparently just a PalmOS issue. There must be, however, a way of making it work...

Can you post the Palm & 6600 settings that you used to make a dial-up connection please? I can't even get that working, so it would be good to see what settings & driver you used on the Palm to get that to work - I've tried 6310i, 3650 and Generic GSm drivers and none of them do anything - I always get "modem not found" errors.

I've even connected to the Nokia 6600 with a terminal emulator via infrared and none of the usual AT commands work, so I'd come to the conclusion that the modem in my phone was broken - if I can't get this to work I might sell the phone and get something else, as I need to be able to use it as a modem too.

Jim

Just use the PhoneLink application on the Tungsten, declaring 3650. When asked for GPRS, say no, and you will be given an opportunity to provide dial-up number, username and password.
This works.
What does not work is GPRS. Again, it initially connects and starts exchanging data with the web, but after a few KB of traffic the phone drops the connection. I know this from the phone's log, that shows traffic coing on for a few seconds before the connection drops.

Well this is pretty strange.

Thanks for your reply, but I have a Clie NX70V, not a Tungsten, so the PhoneLink app is not an option. However, I have made progress:

I got so fed up with the 6600 not working I turned it off and on again to teach it a lesson, and it seems to have done the trick - probably that and changing my 6600 GPRS connection setting to "when required", not "when available" and killing all other running applications apart from "Telephone" just in case.

Anyway, I can now use the phone as a GPRS modem through infrared and bluetooth, and I get sensible replies to AT commands I send to it too.

As far as I can tell the reason it wasn't repsonding before was that the modem was probably "hung" or constantly in use, either because of the "when available" GPRS setting or from a previous connection, I don't know. So the phone modem was not replying to the connection request from my NX70V as it was busy doing something else - it now seems to be behaving itself.

My settings on the NX70V for IR & bluetooth connections both use the Generic GSM Phone Driver, with the init string provided by that driver, and dialing *99# to establish a GPRS connection.

Hope that helps someone.

Jim

Originally posted by jimcro
I got so fed up with the 6600 not working I turned it off and on again to teach it a lesson, and it seems to have done the trick - probably that and changing my 6600 GPRS connection setting to "when required", not "when available" and killing all other running applications apart from "Telephone" just in case.

Wow, nice job! As soon as I switched from "when available" to "when needed" and shut all the apps, it started working for me too.

(I still say its a Nokia firmware screwup, though.)

Jimcro,

You are really a great guy. Besides being quite skilled myself, I have asked in tens of forums and you have been the only one to find out the "when required"/"when available" trick!!!
Thanks a lot.
I can now connect via infrared and browse the web on the Palm. However I still have a problem with bluetooth. By just replacing the connection method from IR to bluetooth (and changing nothing else), the connection is initially established, but as soon as I start navigating the bluetooth connection goes off. It appears as if the 6600 and the Palm are not able to sustain that kind of bluetooth connection. Interestingly, the GPRS connection on the phone remains up, it is just the bluetooth connection that goes off. I then need to reset the phone to remove it from an unstable state.
Any idea?
One thing that we could try, could you please send me all your bluetooth settings on both the Palm and 6600? Additionally, what speed did you setup on the Palm Connections settings? 115.200?

Thanks for your help.

Hey, I'm glad I stumbled across the solution - it seems as though the "when available" bluetooth setting locks the modem from being used by anything else other than the 660 then? Odd.

Anyway, I'm using a Clie NX70V and bluetooth memory stick, and these are the settings:

Clie:
Connection:
Connect to : Phone
Via; Bluetooth
Modem: Generic GSM Phone
Speed: 115,200
Init: X1E0+CMEE=1;+CSCS="GSM";V1
(that was set up automatically by the GSM Phone Driver)

Network:
Service/User name/Password up to you.
Phone: *99#
Connection Type: PPP
Idle timeout: never
Query DNS: Checked
IP Address: Automatic
No script

Phone (not sure how helpful these are):
Bluetooth - visible to all and paired to my Clie
Settings|GPRS: When needed & Access point is name of operator's data access point (payginternet in my case)
Settings|Access Points: Only one set up - I just named it and told it the Access Point name to use. Everything else is standard - no advanced settings.

The phone settings are probably not that useful to anyone else, but hopefully the Palm settings may solve your dropped bluetooth connection problems.

You might try activating bluetooth on the phone, then switching to the Connect|Connection Manager screen, which I do to watch exactly what the bluetooth connection is up to - not sure if it will help, but it shows in real-time the amount of data being sent & recieved by the modem. Maybe you can spot a particular value/size of uploads or downloads that is triggering the dropped connection.

Good luck

Jim

Thanks for the settings.
They are same as mine but I still get the bluetooth connection dropped after a few KB are exchanged.
I guess the Tungsten implementation of bluetooth is not the same as a bluetooth stick.
Anyone tried with a Tungsten?

Exactly same problme as Sirox - Tungsten T3, Nokia 6600 - can sms and dial over BT but the GPRS connection simply drops after a few kb. This is really shocking for two high-end pieces of equipment to be so incompatible. There MUST be a workaround somehow. Anyone?

As I read i thought i had found it- but alas! I have been trying to do this for ages with no real success. I have all the info on another machin and I will post it soon as I get a chance. If we all drop it in the hat, we may just pull out a bunny! (Or a connection, if that's what you really want) I tend to agree with "ltzguy" about this being a Nokia firmware problem. I have BT iBook, BT Palm, BT as a Dongle on my PC and they all chat away fine. Bring in the 6600, and WOW, it's like bringin a good lookin girl into a group of guys- they all WANT to connect, but she ain't havin a BAR of it (excuse the pun). Anyhow, I'll post my stuff soon.

Does anyone have a successful connection with a Tungsten E? If so what are your settings? I got a connection via MODEM but i keep getting a DNS error.