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Using the PC internet connection with the 6600 via Bluetooth

43 replies · 43,661 views · Started 27 December 2003

This thread included a poll: Would you pay for a programme to use Bluetooth to connect to your PC's internet conne

HELP! HELP!

Someone must know how to connect to the PC's internet connection via Bluetooth!

(Dont forget to answer the POLL above!!)

I would like to be able to surf the internet from my Nokia 6600 using the PC's internet connection. Surfing the internet from within 10 meters of my PC would thus be free of charge.

I have heard it is too expensive to use the phone's GPRS connection.

I have not had my first bill for the mobile Network provider's first GPRS connections, but based on their price plan of 1 cent per Kilobyte, the average small page will cost 25 cents/pence/rappen and a page with graphics could easily be more than $1. This makes it expensive compared to the PC based Broadband connection which is effectively free.

I would like to use my phone to surf the net and check news or share prices because my kids are on the PC, (and it would be much more discreet to do it on the phone).

Is anyone aware of a way of defing the bluetooth connection as the access point? Or any other way to use the Bluetooth connection to access a PC's internet connection?

I for one would pay money for a fix that would let me use my 6600 to connect via Bluetooth to my PC and then surf the internet from the PC Broadband connection.


So come on all you programmers out there. Make yourself rich by discovering the solution.


PLEASE..................
PLEASE.............................Don't forget to answer the POLL above!!

I'm shure "the programmers" are working on this right now. People have posted complaints about this every other day in every symbian 60 forum since the nokia 6600 came out. Maybe nokia did a too good job preventing their new phone make use of free internet connection?

just a little comment here.. Yes it's free internet when connected through BT and it's fun to be able to do surfing through the phone from time to time, but it isn't a solution when you are away from the pc.. Providers aren't really losing big money here,cuz most of the time you'd still have to connect through GPRS.. Don't quite get it why Nokia would go through so much trouble just to remove a good feature from the phone... :S

Originally posted by RayGun
just a little comment here.. Yes it's free internet when connected through BT and it's fun to be able to do surfing through the phone from time to time, but it isn't a solution when you are away from the pc..

You can of course get 100 metre bluetooth dongles for PC now? so yes you wouldn't be able to use it on the move but certainly anywhere in the house I imagine.

I hope there is a good solution found to this problem by the time my 6600 arrives, maybe try posting in some of the Symbian Developer forums? someone will know! How about creating a 'dummy' server on your PC and connecting to that?

The phone is not equiped with a Bluetooth chip that has a range of 100 m but somewhere arround 10 m so your 100 m range/1rst class PC dongle will not be of any use to you.

I have given some thought to these 100m bluetooth adapters that I have seen on ebay.

At first I thought 'hmm, strange, that would be useless, the adapter would be able to talk to the phone but the phone could not talk back'

But then I figured that the adapeter was clearly using a higher powered transmitter and so it's possible that it's also using a more sensitive receiver - one that could detect the low powered bluetooth from the phone?

This is a guess of course, has one one tried this in practice? Logic does seem to state that the phone could not have a working BT connection 20meters from the BT station, but practical experience is what counts here.

Originally posted by mat.phillips
I have given some thought to these 100m bluetooth adapters that I have seen on ebay.

At first I thought 'hmm, strange, that would be useless, the adapter would be able to talk to the phone but the phone could not talk back'

But then I figured that the adapeter was clearly using a higher powered transmitter and so it's possible that it's also using a more sensitive receiver - one that could detect the low powered bluetooth from the phone?

This is a guess of course, has one one tried this in practice? Logic does seem to state that the phone could not have a working BT connection 20meters from the BT station, but practical experience is what counts here.

I have no facts on this, but my guess would be that it MIGHT be able to receive for a few more meters,but not up to 100m..Perhaps12-13 tops..But I doubt that receiver is so much better..The transmitter is making sure that signal gets further.. Difference between 10 and 100 m is afterall 10X as far.. 😉

Cheers
RayGun

Having examined the results of the Poll, it is safe to say that only 4% of respondents never look at naked women, and 96% want to use their Bluetooth connection to connect to someone elses pc to surf the net.

...to 'someone elses pc' ????

Not sure what that means. Allow me to offar a practical use for the feature.

(To clarify 'feature': The ability to access internet on mobile phone via the BT link to Mrouter, thus no call charges)

I spend quite a bit of time on IRC, I am a moderator for a busy channel and so there are times when I need to be sat infront of the computer watching the channel. There are times I'd like to be watching TV instead... or cooking etc.

What I do is use an IRC client on the 7650 and monitor the channel that way, when something looks like it needs my input, I walk to the PC and respond. It's like carrying my monitor in my hand.

It works well for me, but I'd like to be able to do this with the 6600.

This is just one use for the facility. I'm sure others have their own things that make the loss of access annoying

another post here is discussing this, or should i say has been, anyway, it is here

I am bringing up these old posts so we keep em moving 😉

I live in a 1 bedroom house which is very small. There is nowhere in my house that is further than 10m from my PC. I just want to be able to surf the net while I take a dump 😊

My brother is using IRC while connected via BT to my PC right now.BTW:He is in the bathroom.The only problem is he is using a 7650 😉

GhostDog wrote:My brother is using IRC while connected via BT to my PC right now.BTW:He is in the bathroom.The only problem is he is using a 7650 😉

spanky316 wrote:I live in a 1 bedroom house which is very small. There is nowhere in my house that is further than 10m from my PC. I just want to be able to surf the net while I take a dump

Hmmm.... Loo surfers.... :tongue:

GhostDog wrote:My brother is using IRC while connected via BT to my PC right now.BTW:He is in the bathroom.The only problem is he is using a 7650 😉

Should I understand that as advice for us to purchase a 7650 for... "restroom use"? 😃

REALIS wrote:Should I understand that as advice for us to purchase a 7650 for... "restroom use"? 😃

Well, it is a cheap rest room IRC terminal...

😃

It is about doing two usually very relaxing and natural things at the same time. Browsing and... well, you know 😊

darn, nokia should have thought of that when they launched 7650

Your DumpBuddy.

guys, focus on the issue here,,,,, is it gonna work 😊 so we all can DO IT 😉

You can purchase any other Symbian device then the 6600 for use as a restroom irc client/web browser.

I can't believe that internet via bluetooth is not a standard feature.

It's not just for browsing the net or using irc, I want to develop applications for the phone. It's pretty galling to be paying �1.50 per megabyte to transfer data via satellite over the internet from the PC 10cm from the phone just because I can't use the built in bluetooth for TCP/IP.

I've read in another thread that a Bluetooth Access Point rather than a USB Stick would work but that thread seems to confuse which phones this will work for.,

Can anyone confirm that a Bluetooth Access Point will work with the 6600, and mention which access point this is.

I don't wnt to pay the extra for the USB Print server. Hopefully it will be the el-cheapo D-Link one 😊

There is an option in Agile Messenger for connection via BT instead of GPRS. Have not tried it myself though.

Guys, i got my hands on a 3650 & tried it with the 6600 router.

here is what happenes.

using doris 1.19 (+bluetooth fix) demo version.

looking up www.nokia.com (waiting here)

Loading...

& there. Nothing further.

i am trying to isolate the problem, is it the device or the router.

If anyone has any suggestion on how to do so, please let me know.

What do we gather from this so far?
is the 6600-router acting one-way only.
BUT, since it did report resolving the DNS for www.nokia.com, that means it is working bothways!!

I will try to find the original router for 3650 & try it with the 6600, I am allowed to do so since i OWN both units,....& i will report back,

i have not had the chance to test the agile messenger with the 6600, my set had to go back to the maker 😊

if anyone tests it please report here. Agile's has a "passthrough" connection method that could be the key.

fofodaman wrote:confirmed.

3650 using agilemessenger 2, working fine with the router.

the real test would be opening arbitrary sockets

RayGun wrote:I have no facts on this, but my guess would be that it MIGHT be able to receive for a few more meters,but not up to 100m..Perhaps12-13 tops..But I doubt that receiver is so much better..The transmitter is making sure that signal gets further.. Difference between 10 and 100 m is afterall 10X as far.. 😉

Cheers
RayGun

Is this possible :

Get two Nokia 6600 phones with the same provider who gives you unlimited free calls between these two phone. Use one of the phones to connect to internet through your desktop at home through bluetooth. so now one of your phones has internet on it. Now, use the other phone when you are outside, connect it to your other phone at home since you have unlimited free calls, make a data call and then use the phone outside to connect to the internet. Now u can use the phone that you have outside to connect to your laptop with internet. This way, you will have free access to the internet even when you are on the go. I think it might not be possible right now but certainly is a solution where you have a lan connection at home and use it to connect to your laptop while outside. Heard once that soneone got it working. dont remember when. any comments ??