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22 replies · 4,746 views · Started 06 January 2004

i had my PC looking as close to mac os X as it possibly could get, changed system files and all, but in the end it just annoyed me, so i restored an old hard disc image and brought a mac powerbook 😊 (not just for the excellent os, just cos i needed a decent laptop that won't break like my old one every 2 months.

wish i had a screenshot now..

Originally posted by Ismail
got a question do all windows programs work on an apple?

In theory. Microsoft make VirtualPC, a Wintel emulator for Macs. There are some problems with it on the latest G5 powered Macs though. I read somewhere last week that they have an update coming out soon to solve this (along with a new version of MS Office for Macs).

Obviously, windows software running in VirtualPC doesn't run as quickly as a Mac native version (e.g. MS Office).

hmm...for the life of me, i still dont see what all the fuss is about. why run microsoft on apple? they should have their own suite of programs to run that is similar to microsoft's. 🙄

if their so amazing, why not?!?🙄

bah!!😛

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
hmm...for the life of me, i still dont see what all the fuss is about. why run microsoft on apple? they should have their own suite of programs to run that is similar to microsoft's. 🙄

if their so amazing, why not?!?🙄

bah!!😛

Simple, to increase sales.

If a business is considering using Macs they will demand MS Office because it reduces staff training costs (more people know how to use office than any other suite).

If a school uses Macs they will demand MS Office because that's what the kids are going to be using when they get out into the real world.

If you're a home user you want MS Office to be able bring work home, to send files to friends/family etc.

In orther words, if you couldn't run Windows software, and especially MS Office, on Macs, they would only sell Macs to the enthusiast market.

Originally posted by Ismail
got a question do all windows programs work on an apple?

The most important programs can be used on an apple.
The differences come more and more with the shareware/freeware.

All mayor programs like Office, Photoshop, Corel and so on have their own OS X versions. documents are not a problem either. 99% of the filetypes can be openend on a Mac, accept for spyware and virusses... they are still not Mac compatible.... but I'm not making a problem of that.

And there is the other way around as well. Some of the best programs ONLY run on a Mac. Programs like Freeway [The best website building app for three years] and the iLife bundle [for making and editting music, movies, dvd's and pictures]

Not to mention the fact that the Mac is one fast piece of hardware.

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
i still dont see what all the fuss is about. why run microsoft on apple? they should have their own suite of programs to run that is similar to microsoft's.

Apple has it's own applications for that actually. AppleWorks. It is able to open and save office files, but most people who don't have an Apple don't know this and stay sceptic towards the Mac.

And if you want to play it even further,
Microsoft has it's own Mac version of Office XP, called Office vX.

The only problem that the Mac has, is the fact that most people THINK they can't work with it. There is practicly no task that can not be done with a Mac, you might have to use a different program, but that is as far as it goes.

Thats nonsense!!! They should have their own Mac training programs/seminars like Microsoft do.

Dont use another company's popularity to sell your stuff and then rib on them.

They got their own software, then use it....cut all ties from your rival.

They are so great, live on your own feet. Maybe they should train through that iPod crap.

Anyways, I see what you mean Bassy and unsound........but i'm just tired of this insane warfare the Mac-heads have and their worship like its the best thing since slice bread and that M$ are an all encompasing evil.🙄

I use Linux (Mandrake) on one of my computers for the last two months and XP on my laptop. I hope to buy an iMac soon.
My point is........live together for goodness sakes.....we have enough animosity in this friggin world already!!!
😡

sheesh!!!

p.s..i'm having a bad day!!!😞

p.p.s....i like your avatar, unsound. its very beautiful and artistic!!1😊

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
Thats nonsense!!! They should have their own Mac training programs/seminars like Microsoft do.

They do.

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
Dont use another company's popularity to sell your stuff and then rib on them.

It was the other way around, Microsoft came up with the idea to create Office for the Mac.
Get your facts right before you acuse someone.

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
They got their own software, then use it....cut all ties from your rival.

This is a common mistake, Apple and Microsoft are not real rivals, they need eachother. Apple creates software for Microsoft, and vice versa

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
They are so great, live on your own feet. Maybe they should train through that iPod crap.

This one I don't get... what's your problem with iPods?

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
i'm just tired of this insane warfare the Mac-heads have and their worship like its the best thing since slice bread and that M$ are an all encompasing evil.

Then just imagine it from our perspective... having to explain every day that a Mac can do the same as windows, that you DO use the same file types, that we CAN visit the same websites... and so on. And then, yes, we get into it. The funny thing is, that I actually get acused of enjoying my Mac. That is my right. Yes, I laugh every day when a new virus spreads over the whole globe, accept to the Macs, if you can't stand that, tough.

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
I use Linux (Mandrake) on one of my computers for the last two months and XP on my laptop. I hope to buy an iMac soon.
My point is........live together for goodness sakes.....

I never told anybody to quit any other platform, I just get sick and tired of having to justify having a Mac.

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya i like your avatar, unsound. its very beautiful and artistic!

Thank you, I think so too.

Originally posted by unsound
Yes, I laugh every day when a new virus spreads over the whole globe, accept to the Macs, if you can't stand that, tough.

BTW: A whole bunch of other OS's don't suffer from the conventinal virues like Windows does:All the Posix compliant OS's like Linux then BEOS and a few more i guess

Originally posted by GhostDog
BTW: A whole bunch of other OS's don't suffer from the conventinal virues like Windows does:All the Posix compliant OS's like Linux then BEOS and a few more i guess

And it's not just down to OS's. Many of the most prolific worms rely on the user having Outlook as their default mail-client. Install a rubbish, archaic, flakey e-mail client like I have and you become instantly immune to most viruses even if you DO run windows!

Originally posted by Bassey
And it's not just down to OS's. Many of the most prolific worms rely on the user having Outlook as their default mail-client. Install a rubbish, archaic, flakey e-mail client like I have and you become instantly immune to most viruses even if you DO run windows!

But when you do run windows, and you get an infected jpg, mpg, or something like that and it is a thread to your computer, you're still in trouble. The work-around you mention is only handy for mass-mailing threats.

Isnt it obvious that its anti M$ people that write these Windows only viruses. At the end of the day, any OS can be attacked, they just chose Windows cos' its more popular to destroy its systems for entertaiment.

Personally, i've only been affected by one virus and that was 8 years ago. I have no extra email needs, so outlook express is satisfactory.

Orophin,there are more virues for Windows because of its flaky or No security.Any OS can be attacked but not as easy as Windows.

I have been struggling with BHO-spyware lately. Arrgh I hate it! My fault obviously, because I use IE. So I've decided to swith over to Mozilla Firebird which I believe is less vulnerable. But there are all these nice plug-ins and extensions, and after I have installed all of them I wonder how safe is it anymore. Is it just a downside of the features that make the browser easy to use that they make it vulnerable too?

The whole problem is that McRiotsoft's Explorer doesn't meet the rules that are made for browsers. It laks a lot of security, and easily accepts any new software/plugins. Microsoft ignores the warnings because by accepting any plugin, it makes it the only browser that can visit practicly ANY website, even if it's a dangerous one. People don't care about safety, they want a browser that can do everything.

Other browsers that DO meet the browser rules don't accept all additions and plugins. This can be seen as a downside, but also as a extra safety. It only accepts software that is made by the rules, and is darefore safe.

Originally posted by Orophin Anwarunya
Isnt it obvious that its anti M$ people that write these Windows only viruses.

Actually, the biggest reason is the fact that it's an easy target.

Apple's OS uses UNIX, which is much more difficult to attack, only pro's go there. And THAT is the reason why Windows is the victim. 95% of the common virusses is made by scriptkiddy's who don't have a clue what they are doing. So they choose the easiest target, Windows.

Originally posted by unsound
Actually, the biggest reason is the fact that it's an easy target.

Apple's OS uses UNIX, which is much more difficult to attack, only pro's go there. And THAT is the reason why Windows is the victim. 95% of the common virusses is made by scriptkiddy's who don't have a clue what they are doing. So they choose the easiest target, Windows.

That's true but a bit simplistic. These script kiddies are also writing these viruses for Kudos. Where's the Kudos in writing a virus that can only ever infect a small proportion of machines? 90+% of PC's are Wintel so, by aiming your virus at them you keep your damage potential high and thereby your potential publicity.

I can't imagine the BBC news at Ten leading with a story about a new virus that is targeting Macs, purely because most people don't have a Mac and so don't care!

Interesting Interesting!!! Good discussion we have here, if abit one sided, but good anyways. 😊

.......one thing though, how come I dont experience all these probs folks get with IE and other "McRiotsoft" software.
Could I be one of the lucky ones.😃

Orophin,some viruses,the "clever" ones will not alert the user about its presence by using up resources,making the system unstable and do their thing when needed.