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Nokia sucks and so does its communicator!

27 replies · 5,121 views · Started 17 February 2004

I recently bought the Nokia 9210i communicator.
Was in good hope as I spent $600 (USD) for the new
phone along with accessories.

I used it for a month or so. One day while I was walking
on the wet grass I slipped, my phone was in my nokia
leather case which was in my pocket.

When I got up and checked the pda interface for the
communicator the inside tft screen had been cracked.
Althought the outside covering screen was just fine,
as brand new.

Althought it had no direct contact with the ground and
even it was grass. And I even didnt fall on the phone.

Everything was working fine except the screen was cracked
and broken. The phone connected to my PC, hddisk, software
and OS in it all where okay, no scratches from down to bottom
nothing... no engravements on the casing even if some pressure was applied if
I had fall on of the phone and pressed it so
it's screen had cracked.

Absolutely nothing. I was making calls, sending calls through
the outside phone, sending and reciving sms everything was working fine.

The casing was A-1 looked as if, it was a brand new phone
just bought now from the market.

When I checked for warranty to my nokia dealer they said
it cannot go undergo warranty. So then I asked them to
repair the pda screen inside and they estimated me a cost
of $250 (USD).

For the fuck sakes of $250 I can buy a new Nokia 6610 here, understand you
fuckwit nokia.

Your phone the communicator sucks, the fuckin thing aint even durable, it has
no resistance, if it drops one time, the whole $600 phone is worth shit,
meaning $0.

I used the 3310, 3315 and 2100 for a couple of months, they slipped once and
fell from my hand onto a direct ceramic tiled floor, once on the pavement and
there working fine.

So if you buy a $600 dollar phone, compared to a $50 one. The $50 one is
durable while the $600 dollar one can fuck you alive.

When someone spends money on a phone, they expect to get the least out of it,
not to spend more money on it, coz the fucking manufacturer has no quality
control over the product.

Nokia has made me pissed off for the last time.
I hope and suggest you guys not to support and by nokia
products anymore, as they are not upto the standard, the price you pay for the thing whish you wish to buy is not worth it, kthx.

I really wanna give nokia a run for their money.
If somebody know where nokia hosts their sites from i can give them a few DDos to shake em up, also if somebody has nokia management, admin emails please let me know so I could mail bomb them, to get some attention. Please let me know kthx!

lol, what an idiot. And please no Enter after every few words.

Thank you, come again!

Laptops are a very complicated and sophisticated piece of electrical machinery they have many IC's and circuitry boards, unlike a simple pda/phone. They have numerious IC's, ccd's, ceds, leds and transistors etc.

As for the communicator now I don't want to this to go over your head but I am an electrical engineer myself I know, about this type of equipment more than you do probobaly.

The communicator phones such as 9210i, run one on a single IC provided inside, and the TFT screen as well... which we may call Thin Flat Transistor is a single chip powering the LCD display through digital signal processing (DSP).

TFT's in a laptop give resolutions upto 56-65k colors, and are durable and not brittle as the one I saw in the communicator.
However the one fitted in the 9210i gives 4096 color resolution due to the inferior transistor fitted in it.

Give it an expermient, try it sometime. Drop you laptop and drop your communicator.

Your laptop keyboard, harddisk and other elements may break damaging the casing, but the TFT screen will not do so, as it is unlike and non-brittle LCD, however the screen, laptop casing may break as we may know.

On the other hand the communicator's internal display TFT screen will crack as it is 4096k colors which doesnt have a smooth lcd display coating as it gives less depth of color detail unlike the one's fitted in laptops.

The more details of colors your LCD-TFT gives the more flexible it is and the less amount, will cause it to be brittle, and can shatter on impact.

Besides I never said I let it fall on the ground. It was in my pocket, in its original nokia leather case, and I fell on wet slippery grass. I didn't rem to drop on it, but maybe there was a little impact, which would have cracked the display.

As for even, I had a 3310, 3315, 2100, 6100 and have used these phones, they fell on the ground, once twice I remember, on the pavement once, and on ceramic tiled floors as we have in the kitches and in the bathrooms. Other than that phones are working 100% fine except the scratches they have on their casings or display.

Meaning this product the 9210i is a very delicate product, which we all can see due to it's high price (criticism). Meaning once dropped, forever lost.

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awyeah

I'm sorry I don't have a lot of sympathy with your case. The 9210i is a portable device that you carry around with you. The odds of it getting dropped or damaged is releatively high. That's why when I had a 9210 it was insured against such things just like my P900 is now. I've never had to make a claim though.

Well I'm actually one year away of being an electrical engineer 😛

But apart from that, I've dropped my commi from 3 meters high it landed on light sand mixed with little stones and still works fine.

I think it was just bad luck, or a structural design fault where pressure in a wrong angle indeed cracks the screen.

As far the comment where you say that the colors fade when you look from a different angle; that's something I actually was amazed by because it didn't have this flaw, you can look at it from every angle and still have a perfect view.
My laptop doesn't have such tolerance 😊

The colors are indeed low, it wouldn't be the first time that I've cursed the few colors when the detail of my backgrounds were lost.

BUT as an office device, do we need more colors? Most pictures do still look perfect.

And won't more transistors just decrease battery life? One of the more important aspects of a mobile device ...

Costs versus benifits, I wouldn't want to trade another day of batterylife for a few extra colors ...

Don't know if it actually brakes faster because of that but I'll take your word for it nevertheless.

I've dropped my commi about six times already. All of them onto a hard surface, like concrete or a tiled floor. The only signs of damage is three small marks on the top cover and a broken hinge.

I think someone is just talking bollox and trolling as the argument makes almost no sense, I've no idea how my times my 9210 has been dropped, last time I picked it up and it was in 2 *sepparate* pieces, yes the top half had come away from the bottom, it was repairable and still works now. I don't know why mr complains a lot yet isn't brve enough to register for a forum has problems with the device hanging, mine doesn't. The screen was amazing quality when it was released hell it was bette than the laptop I had at the time.

I'm sorry to say awyeah, but you are a gimp, if you've bought it recently and are unimpressed with it you should really have checked it out before buying, it's a 2+ year old device, of course it wont have the swanky things the current ones have, because half of them weren't mainstream or even released then. There's no point whinging at nokia for a device *you* bought without looking at if it was the right device for you.

For SwitchBlades reply:

I think you by point out I am putting an argument. This is a discussion board and everyone is free to input their advice, suggestion and comment about the topic.

As for the nokia dropped, I had badluck... I wish you did and you had to spend 300$ just to get the damn thing repaired. As for me I wouldn't want to spend more on the phone likely already... I was looking to buy a 5megapixel camera myself or an LCD monitor if maybe.

As for the gimp thing, passing personal criticizing comments...is of no worth.. I can also say fuck you.. and you can reply back fuck you and then we can argue.? would that make sense??? If your not a teenager and 20+ I hope you woudn't which would be the case.

As for the buying thing, I was informed by a friend that is the best nokia phone and the moxt expensivest one in the market upto date. As they are so many nokia phones it is hard to go to the shop and browse through all.

So I went it in checked it, and bought it simple. Neither I knew how fucking delicate this was. And my warranty provider would be an asshole.

As for insurance...hehe I don't think small devices such as phones can get insurace I mean at the place I live. I've never heard of insuring a phone. Ive heard of car insurace, building insuring... insurance or property, land etc.

The point is nokia should keep things upto date, its not my fault neither yours, nokia should have released an updated version of the phone.

How long has it been since the 9210 is running 4 years now?? tell me?? The 9210i which I bought is just a remaped version of the 9210 wich was released in 2000 so you can leave the 9210i out of consideration. So it has been 4 years for the upgrade and still yet we await!

For Dazler's reply:
>As far the comment where you say that the colors fade when >you look from a different angle; that's something I actually was >amazed by because it didn't have this flaw, you can look at it >from every angle and still have a perfect view.
>My laptop doesn't have such tolerance.

All TFT screens have some tolerance, if you bend your laptop screen quite far away from your keyboard meaning more in a horizontal way (opposite the way you close it) you will feel a tolerance of chaning colors.

>And won't more transistors just decrease battery life? One of >the more important aspects of a mobile device ...

>Costs versus benifits, I wouldn't want to trade another day of >batterylife for a few extra colors ...

TFT only needs a single transistor and not many, so making it able to perform color operations for a 65k screen wont need more transistors than one. As for the battery they can increase the current supply from 1300mAH to a bit more. So if the battery increases the weight will increase, already the phone is a 250gm phone so if 10-20gms increase more, who would feel the effect anyway, its not like you always weigh it before you use it.

For langdona's reply:
>I'm sorry I don't have a lot of sympathy with your case. The >9210i is a portable device that you carry around with you. The >odds of it getting dropped or damaged is releatively high. That's >why when I had a 9210 it was insured against such things just >like my P900 is now. I've never had to make a claim though.

Then again im saying the product should be tested and verified, the internal display screen should be impact and shatter proof atleast when the pda interface is closed. It should be likely durable and not so delicate.

Again insuring a phone is relatively not a simple case and alot of people don't do it because it is such a mere thing.

Although there's some contemptibly obvious trolling going on here, this person does have something of a point. The internal screens of the 9000-series devices are probably too fragile. I've personally suffered two broken internal screens (one in a 9110 & one in a 9210), & they're hellishly pricey to replace. And its not that I'm unusually clumsy: it's very slippery in Finland at this time of the year! I know these things aren't designed for extreme sports, but they are supposed to be for everyday use. My laptop has a magnesium-shell lid, & I carry it in a Samsonite case. Neither of these is an option with the Communicators.

Given how inset the internal Communicator screens are, a bit of the sort of tough-glass armouring that external phone screens get wouldn't go amiss.

Failing that, if laptop makers like Apple & IBM can fit airbags or rubber armour around the most fragile components of their laptops, then surely something similar (albeit to a lesser degree due to size constraints) could be done with the Communicators?

Don't get me wrong: I'm a keen fan of these machines (they're the only mobiles I've ever bothered to own), but this is something that could be improved upon.

Oh, and as to the poster who mentioned insurance: yes, I have insurance with my network for my handset, but it only covers theft, not damage. It's all that they offer, though.

ok after reading this thread all i have to say is its "bullshit"

awyeah if u dont like the phone sell it and get on with ur life and buy a "cheaper"50$fone

the 9210 is more than 2 years old.it seems to me the perfect phone for u is this old and crappy phone
i gurantee u buy that phone it will not break

Originally posted by Ismail
ok after reading this thread all i have to say is its "bullshit"

awyeah if u dont like the phone sell it and get on with ur life and buy a "cheaper"50$fone

the 9210 is more than 2 years old.it seems to me the perfect phone for u is this old and crappy phone
i gurantee u buy that phone it will not break

#1). I would really hope and pray to god that you're screen would crack and you would have to repair it for half the price of the phone itself. Then obviously you would have a different view.

#2). I don't like cheap phones. I don't care if its 2 years old phone or its a 5 year old or even a 1950's phone, should be durable atleast.

Please read dusty's comments.
Another person commented on to my thread on some other website, that he had to repair the normal colorless screen of a 3310 for $80, after it cracked. Don't you think that is too much? for a phone of that quality? A normal colorless, small screen.

The 6250 link you gave. Ok so its durable!
I need a color LCD.
I need a fully operational keyboard.
There is no OS as in the pda interface of the 9210i.
Where are those??!

Give me those I will buy it.

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awyeah

Originally posted by awyeah
#1)

The 6250 link you gave. Ok so its durable!
I need a color LCD.
I need a fully operational keyboard.
There is no OS as in the pda interface of the 9210i.
Where are those??!

Give me those I will buy it.

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awyeah

its called a "computer"

Wrong again!!

That's called a pda-interface phone or
just simply a "smart phone"

A PC is 50 times bigger than a phone.
So hence meaning you cant keep your
PC in your pocket.

A palm PC or aka PDA maybe yes.
Which has the same functions but
a built-in phone as well.

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awyeah

which by the way has a crappy os compared to 9210

also the screen has a better chance of scratching

also no qwerty keyboard

also bigger and wider than 9210

i rest my case

Originally posted by Ismail
which by the way has a crappy os compared to 9210

also the screen has a better chance of scratching

also no qwerty keyboard

also bigger and wider than 9210

i rest my case

LOL OMG!

Don't tell me!... you dont say? do ya?!

There are a variety of OS even mini windows is there, other than symbian, so dont you think windows is a better GUI OS than Symbian OS? I guess you use windows too right? Or you are a linux/unix fan?!

The PDA has 65k color screen, which is 16bit in color depht 😊

The keyboard is not querty so what, you can attach a folding keyboard and yes the keyboard might be a little small and difficult to type on as a normal keyboard but what do u expect the keyboard has shruken 1/20 in size.

Screens are touch sensitive and more wider in length like a squarish shape, other than the rectangular shape, which gives it more easy navigation to browse long documets or etc.

yeah baby!

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awyeah

dude u dont like symbian than dont post here

go to ur "windoesCRAP os furom"

tell them how much u admire ther device and how much it hangs up every time u push a button

and the keyboard ur talking about is not exactly small. its bigger than 9210 and a pda put together😃

also the 6600 or 3660 have 65k color
thats y they are "newer os" than 9210

its like comparing windows3.1 and xp😛

and yes i use windows and i think its crap
i dont like it but i dont have much of a choise

jeeeeeez louise you win!

mene har manli tujhse re... mein bheja
nahi khana chahata aur tera.. and vice versa 😊

*G*

kthx,

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awyeah

yeah weell

kiss omek yal gawad yal khaneth wa atmana omek etroo7 el nar wa matetla3..and not vise versa😃

and another thing i always win😎 😎

Wel.. erm I didn't understand the
language that you wrote in.

I can only understand urdu/hindi. Speaking
of which your name sounded muslim to me
Ismail, so thats why I thought maybe you
are from india or pakistan.

Are you arabic?? Is that arabic written??

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awyeah

whoa a lot of shots there - all points considered though maybe a little less 'harshness' is required - one suggestion only and i hope i don't get fired at - let's stop the habit of dropping phones, its not one of its many uses...if were clumsy (i can't find a better word - sorry) let's buy items i.e., phones, laptops, whatnots that have durability as its primary offer - for phones i think nokia had the industrial model 6250 and has 5510 which prides on their toughness 😉 hey awyeah, you really dropped all those phones you had 😃

Originally posted by Ismail
dude im begging you not to bring this subject up again since it is old😃

baahahahaha
ismail is afraid if the subject is brought up again
i will definately outbeat him in this quarrel....

umm anyway as im not posting much these days
so, im a little busy as well, have different high proirities
one of which is not my phone.

when i bought it i was eager to install software and stuff
etc, but after a month later it seems like hardly a high tech
phone anymore, i hardly open the pda cover, only if i want
to store some files or data or now adays i just use it as
a pen drive to copy some data from office then take it and retrieve it at home...

thats about it, no softwares installation and etc..
so its just like an ordinary phone now, and still its a
hassle to carry... cant leave it anywhere else too, with
things like this you put ur eye somewhere else and the
thing is gone heh.

anyway... cya babeh

kthx

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awyeah

what i meant was that the quarrel was over and no need to open it again

anyway awyeah according to what u said it seems to me that the communicater is not for u why did you get it then?

i suggest you get a simple series 60 phone(hey maybe the new7610 heh?)

Ismail wrote:anyway awyeah according to what u said it seems to me that the communicater is not for u why did you get it then?

>>> why did i get it?
thats for me to know, and you to find out 😃

i like the new webdesign
i think they updated the phpBB with
the newer XP style outlook

😊

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awyeah