Series-60 Spreadsheet ... the holy grail?

Is this an intentional marketing decision by Symbian? I just can't understand it.

Why Symbian?If its anyone's decision it should be Nokia's.Other Symbian devices like the old Commi,the new 7700,9500 have spredsheet support built-in.I even think that Series 60 2.0 has some sort of Symbian Sheet API's.

BTW:I don't believe there is some sort of a conspiracy theory behind this.Do you think that viewing and editing excel with a small phone keyboard on a small Series 60 screen is effective?The market doesn't see Series 60 as "business" phones on the same level as with UIQ devices.If there was some financial gain from a spreedsheat application for Series 60,a third party solution would've been made available by now.

Originally posted by GhostDog
Why Symbian?If its anyone's decision it should be Nokia's.

Ok, Nokia, thanks ... but it's a Nokia/Symbian phone. Any more detail than this, as a consumer, is a little unnecessary for me.

Originally posted by GhostDog
Do you think that viewing and editing excel with a small phone keyboard on a small Series 60 screen is effective?

I do actually. I think editing a spreadsheet on a series-60 device is about as effecive as creating an e-mail or doing just about anything on a phone. Is the series-60 screen size the reason we buy the device? No. The point is to be able to do as much as can when on the move. You balance the lost screen-size against mobile power.

Seriously, I could dump my laptop and Dell X5 if they just included this one application. Nok marketed this phone as a do anything business phone, if they included a spreadsheet app, it would have been. The Excel spreadsheet is one of, if not the, most important document a business person uses.

Originally posted by GhostDog
Other Symbian devices like the old Commi,the new 7700,9500 have spredsheet support built-in.

I don't want the Communicator series. Price/size/keyboard? I don't need that. The 7700? Why do I need an N-gage sized/shaped device when all I want is a mobile phone? I don't want to watch TV on my phone or control the startship Enterprise, I just want to be able to my job and keep up to date on the move. Am I asking too much?

Originally posted by GhostDog
BTW:I don't believe there is some sort of a conspiracy theory behind this.

It just seems the Smartphone designers never (want to?) hit the home run when they have all the tools available to. They just annoy consumers.

Choose a P900 and get the power to edit Word and Excel files, but then be forced to use Memory Sticks (no thanks) ... choose Series-60 for their MMC card, size and lovely UI, and you have to forego being able to edit MS Excel (no thanks). Choose a Treo 600 (the closest anything has got to a true business phone) and forgo the ability to change batteries on the move or replace batteries, iPod style (no thanks)

*fed up with the whole Smartphone movement*

*goes back to T68i and PocketPC for the time-being*

I take your point about it being annoying not having certain apps available to you. I was annoyed to hear that the 6600 didnt have stereo sound or a radio. I mean yes the 6 series nokia are tradtionally for business clients but that doesnt mean they dont want to listen the radio on the move.

But you have to get over it and move to the next best thing. So stop moaning! Everyone feels the same about something on their phone but you get over it. You either take the communicator, a windows powered phone/PDA or you just put up and shut up!

lol @ stop moaning ... I'm a demanding customer, what can I say. 😊

If no one complains about the current state of affairs, we'll just get the same sub-standard smartphones that we've been getting till now.

Actually, I've just read this about the upcoming Panasonic X700 (I'm glad at least Panasonic agree with me). This could be the holy grail:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news.php?id=20668

Applications on the move
The X700 supports a series of pre-loaded applications. Users can view and edit native Microsoft� Word, Excel and PowerPoint� documents on their handset.

It looks like the X700 is the new "best" for Series-60.

At least I have hope now for the future. I'll keep my T68i and Dell until that arrives or until Nokia release a product with the same application set.

I hope that article is telling the truth and is not getting viewing/editing mixed-up.

Thanks anyway, people.

Yours,

Victor Meldrew

The man is absolutely right.The lack of office like applications is a major downside for every series60 phone out there and the screen is no excuse,i like him hope that with the arrival of the new X700 things will change although not sure if this is going to have any impact on current series60 devices like the 6600 or will make bussiness customers simply switch to X700 (it is tottaly unacceptable to promote a phone as a bussiness phone --like nokia does for the 6600-- and not have any office like applications on it)

see problem solved and allyou had to do was a bit of research instead of all that moaning - haha!

Cheers, XpIqX ... glad I'm not the only one.

No doubt, pasa. I'm a symbian supporter. I just think with little things like this ironed out and other issues, they could have had the Smartphone market completely tied up. They could have shut out PDA's at a much earlier stage instead of letting them develop or even allowing the XDA2 to have a market. Let's hope 2004 marks the year where it's all the Symbian issues are finally resolved and they start motoring forward.

The history of Symbian up until the date the X700 is released is "promise unfulfilled" (in my opinion).

Anyway, cheers.

What makes you think that Symbian havent already got the market tied up. Nokia are pushing Symbian like there is no tomorrow by releasing as many new phones with its tech and seeing as Nokia have UK market share with no close competition for miles I dont see a problem with the way things are already progressing. Yes anything could be faster and better but I always think about the advance in recent years and am amazed. When I first saw Nokia ad depicting someone watching high quality video on a phone I didnt believe it would be here soon.

I mean only 15 years ago a mobile phone cost �3000 in the UK and the battery lasted 30 minutes.

sometimes I think peoples expectation are too much. Its fair enough if you are someone developing and know the capabilities and the financial and legal implications, but through being in the Industry I have learnt that these things all take quite a while so its not neccersarily that Nokia or Symbian havent thought about it, it might well be the huge legal documents which have to be fulfilled holding it up.

Originally posted by pasa
What makes you think that Symbian havent already got the market tied up. Nokia are pushing Symbian like there is no tomorrow by releasing as many new phones with its tech and seeing as Nokia have UK market share with no close competition for miles I dont see a problem with the way things are already progressing. Yes anything could be faster and better but I always think about the advance in recent years and am amazed. When I first saw Nokia ad depicting someone watching high quality video on a phone I didnt believe it would be here soon.

I mean only 15 years ago a mobile phone cost �3000 in the UK and the battery lasted 30 minutes.

sometimes I think peoples expectation are too much. Its fair enough if you are someone developing and know the capabilities and the financial and legal implications, but through being in the Industry I have learnt that these things all take quite a while so its not neccersarily that Nokia or Symbian havent thought about it, it might well be the huge legal documents which have to be fulfilled holding it up.

Guys,there is no question if we believe and love symbian,we all do,but symbolic has a point,i too would rather see symbian being for the mobile phones what windows is for the pc's and im afraid that with the rapid advance of the ms smartphones combined with lack of some advanced features that symbian still has,it allows ms to take over some market percentage.