9210 to 9500 transition.

Wirelessly posted (Nokia6600/1.0 (3.42.1) SymbianOS/7.0s Series60/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0)

Ouch. Long post. Cannot reply using wap now but few stuff regarding sync 4 sure will be available. 😉

David Moore wrote:I am like many quite interested in this phone but there are some unresolved questions before the phone makes a proper appearance.

1. 9210 compatibility.
a. Is the 9500 able to read contact databases directly from a MMC used in a 9210?
b. What will the agreed procedure for migration to the 9500 - in particular copying of contacts, applications, message store, log.
For example Bounce

I'm pretty sure that if not from MMC the contacs can be exported via some app like SmartvCard.

2. Series 60 compatibility.
a. Can contacts from Series 60 phones such as the 6600 be read correctly by the 9500?
b. Will Nokia provide a the facility to run Series 60 games/applications on the 9500 (I am not on about the N-Cage) - obviously with the reduced screen display.

a.See previus reply.
b.The 9500 frontside runs Series 40,not Series 60 so no Series 60 games.

3. Trade in.
Are any vendors considering a price reduction if you trade in your old 9210.

Ask the vendors.

4. Software reliability.
My first 9210 had many problems with crashes and reboots - are we sure that 9500 would have these same software problems in the first few months.

The 9500 has not been released yet so none knows how stable the final version would be.There are chances the first public firmware revisions might have bugs.

5. Office software.
a. Are later versions of Office being supported as well as the older versions.
b. Can the Acrobat reader handle - the newer Reader 6 format.
I have the free reader from Adobe but it is for Acrobat 5 files.

I believe that they are but like i said,wait for the final 9500 version.

6. Other wanted changes:
a. 'log' - save the contacts to a sheet file, add date range or contact name criteria.
b. Support for larger MMC cards 128mb and above.
c. A 'firewall' application for the phone.
d. HTML and rich text email support.
e. SMTP authentication for outgoing email - now essential.
f. VPN, SSH, FTP clients as standard.
g. Voice dictation and command software that works!
h. Support for non-Unicode text on email/SMS pending on the country setup
of the phone.
This is important because of those without Nokia's who cannot read SMSs
sent to the communicator in all cases.

a.I don't think its built-in but a third party might pop-up.
b.Most likely.
c.Why would you need that?
d.Don't know,you can try downloading the emulator from forum nokia.
e.Yes.
f.Maybe not built-in but there are third party(I think)
g.
h.

7. Security features.
a. I have heard about remote SMS locking - is this confirmed.
b. Now about an alarm from the phone if it is moved too far from your
bluetooth handset - determined by signal strength.
c. Password protected files and contacts as standard.

a.
b.I don't think so.
c.Maybe third party.

[QUOTE=David Moore]
b. Support for larger MMC cards 128mb and above.
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Hi,

I saw on a review www.my-symbian.com that "Large cards work without any problems. With new, v4.0 specification compliant MMC cards to be available very soon (capacities up to 2 GB)"

Mav

"b. What will the agreed procedure for migration to the 9500 - in particular copying of contacts, applications, message store, log.
For example Bounce "

yes according to my symbian
"You can also synchronise data (Calendar and Contacts) between two Communicators via Bluetooth or Infrated using Data transfer application. Just choose content and connection types and let the device discover the other phone and start synching."

"a. I have heard about remote SMS locking - is this confirmed."

yes according to my symbian
"the phone now also offers possibility of locking the device remotely, by sending an SMS message from any other GSM phone, containing a predefined text (keyword)."

http://my-symbian.com/9210/review2_9500.php

To answer myself - Nokia, now that the reviews have been read exceeded my initial expectations with regards to the 9500 and 9300.

1. 9210 compatibility.
Is the 9500 able to read contact databases directly from a MMC used in a 9210?

I think this may be possible - I hope to try this next month!

b. What will the agreed procedure for migration to the 9500 - in particular copying of contacts, applications, message store, log.
For example Bounce.

Hopefully the phone with present itself as a storage device in which case explorer can be used for the PC suite memory card migration method mentioned.

2. Series 60 compatibility.
a. Can contacts from Series 60 phones such as the 6600 be read correctly by the 9500?
b. Will Nokia provide a the facility to run Series 60 games/applications on the 9500 (I am not on about the N-Cage) - obviously with the reduced screen display.

It's clear I was not understood here - good as the Series 80 is, it should be a really good game platform - especially with the large screen.

Sofar I have Rayman, the standard games, and demo versions of Doom/Civilisation (both of which I wanted to but but the full version are no longer on sale).

What I really meant was a series 60 UI emulator running on the Series 80
UI side of the system!

Better still, will Nokia please make N-Gage titles available to the other models?

3. Trade in.
Are any vendors considering a price reduction if you trade in your old 9210.

I have given up on this especially as an old 9210 tends to develop certain faults - such as the 2/5 keys not working and the case cracked near the hinge again.

Both the 9300/9500 offer some answers:
i. Removable covers/keyboards - about time.
ii. The 9300 - opens fully, so Nokia have realised that the hinge casing breaks especially and the right side - so my display starts jumping around!

4. Software reliability.
My first 9210 had many problems with crashes and reboots - are we sure that 9500 would have these same software problems in the first few months.

Wait and see - crashes are expected.

5. Office software.
a. Are later versions of Office being supported as well as the older versions.
b. Can the Acrobat reader handle - the newer Reader 6 format.
I have the free reader from Adobe but it is for Acrobat 5 files.

This was answered.

6. Other wanted changes:

a. 'log' - save the contacts to a sheet file, add date range or contact name criteria.
Not known.

b. Support for larger MMC cards 128mb and above.
Yes.

c. A 'firewall' application for the phone.

Not from Nokia but at least Synmatic have realised that with W-Lan available the phone can be exposed to viruses and attempted hacks (obviously most want work - thank goodness).
The most likely issue is scanning received email attachments for PC viruses that could be transferred when you sync.

d. HTML and rich text email support.
Yes.

e. SMTP authentication for outgoing email - now essential.
Yes.

f. VPN, SSH, FTP clients as standard.
It's not clear if they are supported as standard or not - most likely expension 3rd party products are more likely.

g. Voice dictation and command software that works!
As Nokia have a newish phone without a keypad - maybe they finally have a program that actually works.

h. Support for non-Unicode text on email/SMS pending on the country setup
of the phone.
This is important because of those without Nokia's who cannot read SMSs
sent to the communicator in all cases.

I really doubt this.

7. Security features.
a. I have heard about remote SMS locking - is this confirmed.

I am pleased about that - only one think missing, the all important - GSM location based services.

b. Now about an alarm from the phone if it is moved too far from your
bluetooth handset - determined by signal strength.

Perhaps a 3rd party might be able to do this.

c. Password protected files and contacts as standard.

Sounds like this will also be a 3rd party application.