HELP! This oughta be simple... but it's NOT! — Nokia 3650, 3660, and 3620

8writer 27 Jul 2004, 23:55

I have scrambled-eggs-for-brains after hours of studying the very fine manuals (4 of them!) for my 3650, PC Suite, and lots of postings in this (and other) forums. Still, I cannot do the simple task of installing a few new ringtones, either as a direct WAP download (I have free WAP access with T-Mobile) or by transferring them from my PC using PC Suite and a Bluetooth connection.

I set up the basic BT settings, so the devices "see" each other, and I can get a connection, once in a while, that quickly vanishes. The problem is that no one in any of these threads or manuals or other portals of wisdom, will simply lay out, step by step, how you do this. For instance, I follow the seemingly simple steps from PC Suite, and it doesn't mention that it gives you the choice of only 2 obscure Comm Ports through which to connect (and if the port of your 3650 is different, why, Tough Kitty!). Likewise, the 3650 only gives me such a Beggar's Choice, and no option to type a different number in!

Obviously, this is why T-Mobile makes a killing off their brainless ringtone downloads at $2 a pop! Less obviously, I am very new to my 3650, having just laid my little Motorola T193 to rest... on a busy freeway, just so I could watch an 18-wheeler roll over it! What a POC! Only fitting that it got "Motor-Rolled" in the end. 😉

This is my 3rd Nokia and I love it - but I'd rather hear Curly go "Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk" when it rings, than that same-old chirp. I've got Audacity to edit sound files to short .wav files (or is there a better format to use?), and my BT dongle all set up to send. Now what?

garcons50 28 Jul 2004, 00:12

I see you are experiencing BT connection problems too. I faced them when i was new to the Nokia3650 and have posted a set of bluetooth instructions on my blog.
Feel free to check them out and follow step by step and your connection wont vanish.

Re setting the ringtone, all i do is copy the songs to my MMC, under E:/sounds/digital, and the show up in the list and i can choose them.

The only problem i am experiencing is Changing my alarm tone, as i dont like the default one. I used to do this earlier by using EProfiles Pro but all of a sudden that software stopped working. 😞

8writer 28 Jul 2004, 21:29

I visited your site, studied the blog, followed it carefully, rebooting, installing, rebooting, installing... and once again, I was given a vast choice of ports for the serial connection - Port 7 or Port 7! It was a hard choice to make. 😎 And once again, I got the connection for a few seconds, and it went "poof!"

No one has addressed this issue of Port selection in PC Suite or Bluetooth, so I don't really know what to do next. Any ideas?

garcons50 03 Aug 2004, 03:51

I cant remember where i read this, but i always select Com 9. It works all fine for me. Could you mail me screen shots of what exactly happens, and how you set up the connection on garcons[at]gmail and we can take it from there.

onutz 03 Aug 2004, 09:43

Hy!

Try installing a file manager into your phone (e.g. fileman) and move the files into e/soud/digital in order to see them in the profile sound section.
About BT connection, try establish 2 ports: COM 8 for PC as client and COM 9 for PC as server, search for devices/phones then switch on the BT on your phone (don't do that before searching, but in the same time)

8writer 03 Aug 2004, 21:00

I hope this thread - at least this last posting on it - gets a lot of hits by newcomers to the forum. So I'll include some keywords for their searches right now: EASY FAST SIMPLE BASIC RINGTONE DOWNLOAD for BRAINLESS IDIOTS LIKE ME. There. That should catch1% of the searches for the subject.

This weekend I got back an email reply to my email query sent to Nokia Customer Service. Monday, August 2nd, I called Tech Support at Nokia. To my surprise, there were LIVE HUMANS :call2: there that were pleased to talk to me about my trouble with the Nokia phone and/or software! I talked to Customer Service, who politely routed my call to Tech Support 😎 , where a very expert fellow very quickly sorted out the trouble. Took about 2 minutes.

Apparently, you don't have to go through all the hoops and obstacles just to download ringtones. You don't have to deal with the Port settings, in fact. As it turns out, you don't even USE the "Bluetooth Serial Port" at all - here's the quick explanation.

For the simple downloading of a ringtone as a .wav file (or other file type that works on the 3650), the Bluetooth software uses a software called OBEX. I'll bet one of the moderators knows what that stands for, or where it comes from, but it sounds like the name of some Himalayan goat to me. You don't need to know anything about OBEX, except that there are 2 different applications in there that use it, one for uploading FROM the phone (OBEX File Transfer) and one for downloading TO the phone (OBEX Push - don't ask me why they call it that... maybe the goat pushes the data along the mountain ledge...)

The only thing I had to know - after installing PC Suite - was which mouse button was right and left. See, you just go to the .wav file you want to load into your phone and RIGHT-CLICK. You'll see that familiar little menu that includes the "Send to..." button. Click that and you'll see one very important little addition - a "Bluetooth Device" option! Select it and in a moment you see the little bar-graph slider showing the progress on transferring the file to the phone. All files by default go to the phone's Inbox, and when you click on it, you can send it to the Recorder application. No, actually, it got filed with the Recorder application automatically. I just went to Profiles in the Menu section of the phone, and in my Normal profile I changed the ringtone to my new .wav file (which was sitting right there in the list... brainless!).

Only one thing that Nokia got wrong, which is that their girl in Customer Service insisted that the webpage you usually go to for downloading PC Suite had the latest version. Not so, Pinnochio! That only has their Version 1 from 2 or 3 years ago. Thanks to Bent Laursen for the REAL link, which is:

http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,5341,00.html?applicationId=274&prodSupAppID=1&productId=225&categoryId=19&languageId=1 .

Other than that, Nokia scored a 10 out of 10 in my books :icon14: . Thanks to all that responded - perhaps I'll have to deal with those more tedious procedures some day... but not today! 😉