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no more sendo x forme

12 replies · 3,234 views · Started 02 October 2004

epdm 02 Oct 2004, 01:17

Hi fellas,

today I got a refund for my sendo.

It wasn't really broken but I wasn't very happy with it. Why?

First: it lasts only 2 days with a fully charged battery. This is way to short for a mobile phone. Especially for such an expensive one.

2nd: It resets a whole bunch of times at switch on. This is very anoying especially since this phone isn't the quickest at power-up.

3rd: I really hate it when somone sends me an SMS with a telephonenumber in it and that I can't dial that number from within that message. This is possible with my old T68i (which costs 1/4 of this phone) so I can't understand that the latest Nokia-based phones don't have a similar feature. I think thisis not a Sendo fault but missing feature in Series 60 software.

4rd: There's a possibility to copy phonenos. from SIM to internal memory but not back unlike the affordmentioned T68i.

5the: My PC's Bluetooth dongle has an Audio-gateway profile but the Sendo can't work with it. The same with my Pocket PC. Though the Pocket PC works via bluetooth with my PC (and so did also that old T68i). This is due to the fact that both PC and PPC uses the headset profile which the Sendo lacks 😞

6th: I can't get the sendo recognised as a fax or dial-up modem. In fact general connectivity "appears" easier (because Nokia's have less options to e.g. activate Bluetooth which is good indeed) but actually achieving a connection with PC is more troublesome in reality.

Besides this: I got so anoyed at some time that I smacked the phone into my bag. Next thing I saw was that the aluminum frontplate was bend round certain keys. This phone is so fragile, it's unbelieveable.

The backplate sqeaks and looks very fragile.

Never got the Favourites pane to work.

Since I don't like typing messages on these small phone keypads I'd like to use my PC or PPC to type SMS-mesages. Unfortunatly this is not possible using the easily obtainable software packages (tried easySMS for PPC and Microsoft's SMS Sender amongst others). While my T68i had excellent software to achieve this (FLoat's offering (PC) and easySMS (PPC) does work with the T68i)

Good points:

I enjoyed it's good and large screen.

Sound was excellent. The Speaker phone function is a big thing. You can actually hear this phone on busy streets with cars roaring by, even without speakerphone activated.

Games run very well albeit usually without sound .

Nice callender although I would have liked an option to disable seeing aniversaries. Some items on the Now screen should be more tweakable.

Firmware updates, support forums etc. easily accessable through Sendo's website.

Conclusion.

This phone has potential but is clearly let down by poor design and numerous bugs. It's like this phone isn't yet finished well enough. Unfortunatly the camera used is already outdated.

In the end I think I'll get back a new T68i. Since this is today the cheapest Bluetooth mobile phone (I don't need a cameraphone anyway) and most widely supported by software on both PC and PPC. If only Sony-Ericson made a T69i with the same features as the T68i except for a 4096 colour screen and polyphonic ringtones. Because I don't need any more technical features. Though I really liked the Sendo's loud audio system.

Regards,

EPDM

Cash 02 Oct 2004, 10:54

Yep,

I have to agree with you on most of the points you have made and for returning the phone,

But I think that at the moment I will be hanging on to mine at least untill the next firmware release, Sendo now know of all the bugs that are "bugging" us and they should fix most if not all in the next firmware release.

N/A 02 Oct 2004, 17:00

3rd: I really hate it when somone sends me an SMS with a telephonenumber in it and that I can't dial that number from within that message.
Your "3rd": When an SMS is open, did you miss the "Call" in the "Options" menu somehow? Documented in the Sendo X User's Guide, page 70.

I can't understand that the latest Nokia-based phones don't have a similar feature.
All Nokia phones since the dawn of time (for as long as SMS has been a feature of Nokia mobiles) have had the option to reply to an SMS with a voice call. (Or, at least, I have never seen a Nokia phone where it isn't possible.)

4rd: There's a possibility to copy phonenos. from SIM to internal memory but not back unlike the affordmentioned T68i.
Your "4rd" (4th 😉 ): When you are viewing a contact record and have a number selected, see the "Copy to SIM" selection in the "Options" menu. Documented in the Sendo X User's Guide, page 57.

The Sendo X User's Guide:
http://www.sendo.com/manuals/x/Sendo%20X%20User%20Guide%20-%20EN.pdf

epdm 03 Oct 2004, 22:58

N/A wrote:Your "3rd": When an SMS is open, did you miss the "Call" in the "Options" menu somehow? Documented in the Sendo X User's Guide, page 70.

All Nokia phones since the dawn of time (for as long as SMS has been a feature of Nokia mobiles) have had the option to reply to an SMS with a voice call. (Or, at least, I have never seen a Nokia phone where it isn't possible.)

Your "4rd" (4th 😉 ): When you are viewing a contact record and have a number selected, see the "Copy to SIM" selection in the "Options" menu. Documented in the Sendo X User's Guide, page 57.

The Sendo X User's Guide:
http://www.sendo.com/manuals/x/Sendo%20X%20User%20Guide%20-%20EN.pdf

OK. To make my matters clear to you.

my 3rd remark: I am NOT refering to call to the person who sent me the sms but to the telephone number embedded INSIDE that SMS.

Suppose someone at work receives a call for you when you're away. And sends you an SMS like: "Call Mr.X urgently. You can reach him at 0123456789." In this case you DON'T want to call back at your collague but to the telno. embedded in the message. THIS is possible on the T68i.

So again. I'm NOT refering to "Reply" or "Call". I'm aware that every celular has this option. I'm refering to calling to nos. embedded inside a message OTHER than the person who originated the message.

my 4th remark: Okay.. I currently have 121 telephone no's in my phone. Do you really expect me to copy them ONE BY ONE to my SIMMcard?

Especially since you can copy the entire SIMM to phone by one (1) menu item. Why not vice versa?

My situation was this. I copied the entire SIMM to my phone. Then I deleted the phonebook from my SIMM. Changed (or added) some numbers and wanted to back up my ENTIRE phonebook again to my SIMMcard (asto when I had to use another phone in case that Sendo X got broken). In my case I had no choice to get my T68i from under the dust, connect it to the pc (bluetooth) and copied my outlook-contactslist to that phone again (from which I then was able to copy them back to my SIM card IN ONE GO!!!).

Again I don't want to slag of the Sendo X. As it's clear that you are very happy with it. But IF you owned a T68i (which was at its release the most advanced Ericsson phone) then you would have been spoiled as much as I am. I expected MORE features with the Sendo X not less, without loosing any of the stuff that I gotten acustomed too.

In the case of phone/messaging symbiosis I found the Sendo X rather stupid for a suposedly "smart-"phone.

Regards,

EPDM

stuclark 03 Oct 2004, 23:18

Yes, I agree.

I don't like the T68 or T610 that much for some of their functions (and yes, I do own both) but they Do offer you the ability to call any number embedded within a SMS message.

As for copying an entire phonebook (contacts list) to SIM - yes, this would be useful, but it's already possible if you do a phone memory backup to PC / memory card. Having said that, being able to completely controll the SIM phonebook memory woudl be nice 😊

psintak 03 Oct 2004, 23:21

epdm wrote:3rd: I really hate it when somone sends me an SMS with a telephonenumber in it and that I can't dial that number from within that message. This is possible with my old T68i (which costs 1/4 of this phone) so I can't understand that the latest Nokia-based phones don't have a similar feature. I think thisis not a Sendo fault but missing feature in Series 60 software.

Just open Message - select Options - Find - Phone number (or Email, URL)

epdm wrote:6th: I can't get the sendo recognised as a fax or dial-up modem. In fact general connectivity "appears" easier (because Nokia's have less options to e.g. activate Bluetooth which is good indeed) but actually achieving a connection with PC is more troublesome in reality.

No problem for me - Bluetooth connection for modem works great and IrDa modem also without any problem (now Im writing on BT over GPRS from Sendo X)

epdm wrote:Since I don't like typing messages on these small phone keypads I'd like to use my PC or PPC to type SMS-mesages. Unfortunatly this is not possible using the easily obtainable software packages (tried easySMS for PPC and Microsoft's SMS Sender amongst others). While my T68i had excellent software to achieve this (FLoat's offering (PC) and easySMS (PPC) does work with the T68i)

Try software DesktopMessage or Remote S60

epdm 04 Oct 2004, 22:39

gOOdgRavY wrote:epdm, where did you offload your Sendo X?
Thanks,
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Well I have all my contacts stored in Outlook. Which was included with my Pocket PC. I synchronised them with my T68i when I still got that GSM and kept them synchronised. So I always had a source on my PC whenever I needed them. I also have them synchronised with my Pocket PC. So in essence I have 2 copies of my full contactlist. So all I had to was to copy them from Outlook to the phone and copy them from the phone into the SIMcard. When I got that Sendo X I merely synchronised that too with Outlook. I never had to ofload it back to my PC since Outlook already has my most uptodate contacts list.

In the case of Sendo you can even use the Windows Address book (outlook express). Unfortunatly if you also want your contacts on the SIM (in case you need to replace the SIM for whatever reason) you'll have to copy them one by one.

I used bluetooth as my transfer medium.

Hope this gives you any help,

epdm

epdm 04 Oct 2004, 22:51

psintak wrote:Just open Message - select Options - Find - Phone number (or Email, URL)

No problem for me - Bluetooth connection for modem works great and IrDa modem also without any problem (now Im writing on BT over GPRS from Sendo X)

Try software DesktopMessage or Remote S60

Thanks for your tips.

1) The --> options --> find--> etc... is so intuitive that i strangely missed it 😊
2) Well the modem/fax should work since it basicly mimics a Nokia phone and I once used a 6310i to send/receive faxes. So I have no clue what went wrong. I got that T68i back last weekend to copy my conatcts tot my simcard and I reinstalled SEsoftware and again I had a Bluetooth faxmodem. Weird.

3) the links to these software titles. Are you sure they work on the Sendo X? I mean on that website they mention PC Connect (which I believe is incompatible with SendoX)?

Anyway what about the Pocket PC? Has anyone with a Nokia phone tried this program succesfully? Besides it should work with M$ SMS Sender too, shouldn't it?

Oh well... why am I bothering? I don't have that Sendo anymore so I shouldn't care.

Regards,

epdm

psintak 05 Oct 2004, 00:33

epdm wrote:3) the links to these software titles. Are you sure they work on the Sendo X? I mean on that website they mention PC Connect (which I believe is incompatible with SendoX)?

Remote S60 works great and DesktopMessage should also becouse it uses only mRouter and it is also included with Sendo software.

to this SIM thing: how your T68i store on SIM contact with for ex. 6 telephone numbers? As 6 separate contacts with the same name?!? And what about storing long name (for me with special characters in my language) in only 14 characters on SIM?

epdmd 05 Oct 2004, 18:27

gOOdgRavY wrote:Sorry, bad choice of words. I meant where did you sell your X?
Oooops,
gravy

Oops, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

Well I didn't sell it. I bought it and returned it after a day or 6. You can ask for a refund if you return the item fully packaged in original packaging with invoice with no (ab)usage marks within less than 8 days. At least in Belgium you can. I suppose similar arangements can be made in the UK or US as well. especially if you have a genuine reason to return it.

In my case I have a few bluetooth items which only have a headset profile unlike modern bluetooth audio devices which contains both headset- and handsfree profiles. The latter is more advanced but my old headset (HBH30) only carry the headset profile (as does the MSI PC2PC bluetooth USB dongle) that I use to sync with outlook.

The odd thing is that most cellular phones (including my old T68i) also contains both profiles except... you guessed it... the Sendo X. Which only contains the more advanced handsfree profile. So since the phone was quite useless to me the shop was very polite to refund the Sendo X.

To potential buyers DO look out that your additional especially older bluetooth devices work with your potential purchase. This is not strictly a Sendo X item; I believe newer SE-models like the 700I also only carry the handsfree profile. But I would have at least expected the Sendo X (you know: See, hear, CONNECT, do) to be able to "connect" to everythingincluding my old but still functional headset and desktop PC.

I did emailed Sendo and asked IF they would ever provide the headsetprofile in its bluetooth stack but gotten no reply as of yet. So to be certain I would get my money back in case the answer would be negative I decided not towait any longer asked for a refund now.

Regards,

Manu T