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Mac OSX and iSync w/ A1000

20 replies · 11,103 views · Started 12 November 2004

Does anybody know how to make the A1000 and iSync work together?

I tried the following workaorund in the SupportedDevicesInfo file (as suggested at http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17551):

A1000 (as the key)

ATI3Response
Motorola Mobile Phone (response I got from an ATI3 request, but it seems to be too generic!)
AgendaDatabasePath
c:\documents\agenda\agenda (Should be there, isn't it?)
AgendaMappingsPath
P900AgendaMappings (points at p900's file, hypothesis is they are the same)
ClassId
5374476 (I go for P900 ClassId but have no clue about what a ClassId is!)
MappingsPath
P800mappings (same as before pointing at p800's file)
iSyncIniPath
c:\system\iSync.ini (should be std)

And added also:

Motorola --separator--Motorola Mobile Phone (same as the ATI3?!??)
symbiantool

In the SymbianConduit_phones.plist file.

Of course... it didnot work. 😞

This should be almost correct:

<key>A1000</key>
<dict>
<key>ATI3Response</key>
<string>Motorola Mobile Phone</string>
<key>AgendaDatabasePath</key>
<string>c:\documents\agenda\agenda</string>
<key>AgendaMappingsPath</key>
<string>P900AgendaMappings</string>
<key>ClassId</key>
<string>5382668</string>
<key>MappingsPath</key>
<string>P800mappings</string>
<key>iSyncIniPath</key>
<string>c:\documents\iSync.ini</string>
</dict>

iSync recognizes the A1000 (if you put a A1000.tiff in the proper directory (which is: /System/Library/SyncServices/SymbianConduit.bundle/Contents/Resources ) it also uses the correct icon), but at the time of syncro the phone resets.
If someone can solve this out this will be the "clean" way to make things work.

The other way is to force iSync to recognize the A1000 as a P900.
To do that follow what follows:

Edit the file SymbianConduitDefaults.plist
in /Library/Application Support/SyncServices/501
(if 501 is your user ID, otherwise select yours)


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<array>
<dict>
<key>kBTEmptyFolderIsOkayReally</key>
<false/>
<key>kBTFilteringDestinationFolderID</key>
<string>F 122213242.11</string>
<key>kBTFilteringDestinationFolderName</key>
<string>Home</string>
<key>kNSSyncConduitFilteringContactGroupMap</key>
<dict/>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceID</key>
<string>xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx</string>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceName</key>
<string>A1000 (or whatever name you want your device to show in iSync)</string>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceShouldSlowSyncCalendars</key>
<true/>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceShouldSlowSyncContacts</key>
<true/>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceUseCalendars</key>
<true/>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceUseContacts</key>
<true/>
<key>kSymbianConduitModelKey</key>
<string>P900</string>
<key>kSymbianHasDeviceSynced</key>
<true/>
</dict>
</array>
</plist>

Modify the xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx key kNSSyncDeviceID with your A1000's M.A.C. Bluetooth (retrieve it in Bluetooth Preferences, Devices panel).

Pay attention:
<key>kSymbianConduitModelKey</key>
<string>P900</string>
must not change.

Now open iSync, and you will see your phone already set up in the main panel (P900 icon; you can easily place an A1000 icon if you replace the "P900.tiff" with a A1000 img).

To syncronize the phone, open the Desktop Suite preferences and select bluetooth and then your mac from the list of found devices, then in the same main app select "connect".

Note: The "Erase all at first sync" won't work, it will erase and then reset the phone. So let it be reset or clean it up manually and then go for the "add the Phone's to Mac's contacts"

That's it. Remember to save a copy of the file you edited, in case you should "remove the device" from iSync. Otherwise iSync would restore the default file, wich is -of course- empty.

Hi!

I can't find the SymbianConduitDefaults.plist in the path. I am able to follow it (I even have the folder 501), but there is no file with this name in it...I am using MacOS X 10.3.6 with the last iSync-Update - do you have an idea where else the file could be?

Thanks

Alex

Alex,
any joy yet?
I've tried creating the SymbianConduitDefaults.plist by pasting the code into a text edit file and saving but still doesn't work.

I also delved around in the sync folder in system/library to see if there was anything I could edit to make work but nothing really said 'me... use me!'

Can you get the A1000 to 'mount' at all, even via usb? I'd like to put a few mp3s onto it for tube-time listening. If you put a transflash card in the phone will it mount via usb in the same way as a digital camera or flash drive?
Cheers,
Joe

TexMurphy wrote:Hi!

I can't find the SymbianConduitDefaults.plist in the path. I am able to follow it (I even have the folder 501), but there is no file with this name in it...I am using MacOS X 10.3.6 with the last iSync-Update - do you have an idea where else the file could be?

Thanks

Alex

Hey,
I just tried 're-pairing' my a1000 and mac via bluetooth set up, the phone asked for the pass key and hey presto, turned on iSync and desktop suite, hit 'discover devices' in iSync and my phone showed up... sync'd up just fine!

Will try to see if I can do this at work via usb as well...

Joe

Stripeyjoe wrote:Hey,
I just tried 're-pairing' my a1000 and mac via bluetooth set up, the phone asked for the pass key and hey presto, turned on iSync and desktop suite, hit 'discover devices' in iSync and my phone showed up... sync'd up just fine!

Will try to see if I can do this at work via usb as well...

Joe

So you first created the file, then established a bluetooth connection and searched for the A1000 in iSync? With the first trick (renaming P900 to A1000.tiff and then adding this lines to the profile), I also was able to sync but my phone crashed as told by the other guy. What phone did your iSync detect (name)? And did you try this rename-thing before?

I will just try to create the file as well and see what's happening 😉

Bye

Alex

Hmm, I've got the theory but I can't find my Device Sync ID to put in the code above. Anyone offer a idiots guide please?
Thanks

xan

I am rather similar to some of the readers here (little to no knowledge of scripting). If possible can any of you provide me with an idiots guide of how to do this, as I am desperate to sync my Mac with my A1000. Also how do I install new software (as I can not find anything that discusses OS X and software installation? Finally I have looked high and low regarding Avantgo installation and syncing, any ideas how?

Ricardo,
All I did was 'pair' the phone and my Mac via the Bluetooth Setup Assisstant, with the desktop tools on the phone turned on... It prompted me to enter a pass key that was displayed on the Mac.
Once they were paired I turned on iSync and did a 'discover devices' thing, the phone showed up as a P900. I don't think I had renamed anything except for the P900.tif (may have been .jpg) to A1000.tif (or .jpg) in the sync folder.

good luck,

Joe

Ricardo wrote:I am rather similar to some of the readers here (little to no knowledge of scripting). If possible can any of you provide me with an idiots guide of how to do this, as I am desperate to sync my Mac with my A1000. Also how do I install new software (as I can not find anything that discusses OS X and software installation? Finally I have looked high and low regarding Avantgo installation and syncing, any ideas how?

when i attempt to pair my A1000 I can get the mac to recognise the phone, name and all, but in the setup assistant it will not allow me to pair it for sync. I only get the option to use it as a internet device. i can send files to the phone via Bluetooth file exchange, but iSync doesn't want to know. Despite my best efforts.
I have however found the syncdeviceId but am not sure how to implement the code.
Can anyone relate to this?
Thanks
Xan

Now it doesn't work... I guess there must be a very specific order in turning on bluetooth, iSync, Bluetooth Assistant and Desktop tools cos now I cannot get it to work! I haven't changed anything on the Mac but now iSync is refusing to see the phone. Bluetooth setup can but keeps on dropping the connection. This is pissing me off!
Joe

xanction wrote:when i attempt to pair my A1000 I can get the mac to recognise the phone, name and all, but in the setup assistant it will not allow me to pair it for sync. I only get the option to use it as a internet device. i can send files to the phone via Bluetooth file exchange, but iSync doesn't want to know. Despite my best efforts.
I have however found the syncdeviceId but am not sure how to implement the code.
Can anyone relate to this?
Thanks
Xan

xanction wrote: i can send files to the phone via Bluetooth file exchange, but iSync doesn't want to know.
Xan

Xan, how did you send files to the phone... this is what I want to do the most, not as bothered about the calnder sync, though it would be nice, but want to transfer mp3s over to phone without having to borrow a pc from work!

Yes Stripeyjoe, you just need to 'pair' your phone (i put that in inverted commas beacuse I can still only half pair it) so the computer will at least recognise the device exists. Then open a program called Bluetooth file Exchange which should be in the utilities folder of your applications folder. Then it's just a case of sending a file from your mac to the phone. You'll probably get a message saying the device does not recognise this type of document send it anyway? The bugger is just testing your resovle. You should find that it'll take all mp3s (which you can crop and use as ringtones) and piscal viewer will show word documents and the like.
Good luck, and if anyone can get me to understand how to sync contacts and calanders I'd be grateful. Although the mac will see the A1000 iSync still wont.
Xan

Xan,
got it working again! after trying iSync i looked in library/application support/sync services (i think... look at the second post in this thread...) and the file mentioned in the second post had appeared. I cut and pasted the code into the file using text edit, put in the required data for xx-xx-xx-xx (got from bluetooth prefs) and when i restarted iSync the phone showed up (it showed up first as A1000 or whatever you want to call it but I reopened the pref file and changed the name to my A1000). Could sync again.
I tried the file exchange thing, it started sending a file but the phone re-booted itself 1/2 way through the send!
Good luck,
Joe

Xanction wrote:Yes Stripeyjoe, you just need to 'pair' your phone (i put that in inverted commas beacuse I can still only half pair it) so the computer will at least recognise the device exists. Then open a program called Bluetooth file Exchange which should be in the utilities folder of your applications folder. Then it's just a case of sending a file from your mac to the phone. You'll probably get a message saying the device does not recognise this type of document send it anyway? The bugger is just testing your resovle. You should find that it'll take all mp3s (which you can crop and use as ringtones) and piscal viewer will show word documents and the like.
Good luck, and if anyone can get me to understand how to sync contacts and calanders I'd be grateful. Although the mac will see the A1000 iSync still wont.
Xan

Okay - Have tried the P900 method, seems to have worked:
Was unable to find the file
/Library/Application Support/SyncServices/501/SymbianConduitDefaults.plist
So created one of that name with the code from above. The phone is the recognized by iSync.

But when I try and sync it fails, iSync returns the following:
"
Wednesday, 8 December 2004 15:41
|PN A1000 | Could not connect to PN A1000 . Your personal firewall is enabled, please ensure port 3004 is open. Also, check the pairing with this computer.
Can't synchronize contacts to PN A1000 : device is not available
Can't synchronize contacts to PN T610: device is not available
Can't synchronize calendars and To Do items to PN T610: device is not available
Can't synchronize calendars and To Do items to PN A1000 : device is not available
"
Personal Firewall: i have opend the port in the firewall in OSX - under System Prefs: Sharing.

Some of you refer to changing the preferences in the desktop suite - where? On the phone, or is the a Mac version of the Motorola software.

Thanks in advance.
Pete

The sync works fine with the T610. And if I try it with the A1000 out of range then the error message is different, says check phone is on and in range. Thus I guess the problem lies somewhere on the phone side... any ideas?

Brand new A1000, so no damage there, works fine w/ other bluetooth things like file transfer and even Salling Clicker. Mac is running Panther and everything is fully up to date.

What (I think) I Did:

Set up Desktop Suite preferences on phone.
Quit iSync etc
Note down phones Bluetooth MAC address
Delete paring on Mac 'Bluetooth preferences.
Create Plist file.
Re-pair phone.
open iSync and try the Sync.
you seem to need to hit connect from the desktop suite on the phone... can do this before or after starting sync

I just did the workaround and it works fine. Actually works better than the P900 ever did.
I used PlistEditPro to edit the file (get it free on VersionTracker.com). I carefully pasted the text you gave us all, added the phone bluetooth ID, saved it and it works fine.
The only trick: I found that you MUST start the sync on the phone AND ONLY AFTER THAT hit the Sync button in i-sync. Otherwise they just seem not to find eachother.
Works fine.
Great hint.

-----

The other way is to force iSync to recognize the A1000 as a P900.
To do that follow what follows:

Edit the file SymbianConduitDefaults.plist
in /Library/Application Support/SyncServices/501
(if 501 is your user ID, otherwise select yours)


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<array>
<dict>
<key>kBTEmptyFolderIsOkayReally</key>
<false/>
<key>kBTFilteringDestinationFolderID</key>
<string>F 122213242.11</string>
<key>kBTFilteringDestinationFolderName</key>
<string>Home</string>
<key>kNSSyncConduitFilteringContactGroupMap</key>
<dict/>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceID</key>
<string>xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx</string>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceName</key>
<string>A1000 (or whatever name you want your device to show in iSync)</string>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceShouldSlowSyncCalendars</key>
<true/>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceShouldSlowSyncContacts</key>
<true/>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceUseCalendars</key>
<true/>
<key>kNSSyncDeviceUseContacts</key>
<true/>
<key>kSymbianConduitModelKey</key>
<string>P900</string>
<key>kSymbianHasDeviceSynced</key>
<true/>
</dict>
</array>
</plist>

Modify the xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx key kNSSyncDeviceID with your A1000's M.A.C. Bluetooth (retrieve it in Bluetooth Preferences, Devices panel).

Pay attention:
<key>kSymbianConduitModelKey</key>
<string>P900</string>
must not change.

Now open iSync, and you will see your phone already set up in the main panel (P900 icon; you can easily place an A1000 icon if you replace the "P900.tiff" with a A1000 img).

To syncronize the phone, open the Desktop Suite preferences and select bluetooth and then your mac from the list of found devices, then in the same main app select "connect".

Note: The "Erase all at first sync" won't work, it will erase and then reset the phone. So let it be reset or clean it up manually and then go for the "add the Phone's to Mac's contacts"

That's it. Remember to save a copy of the file you edited, in case you should "remove the device" from iSync. Otherwise iSync would restore the default file, wich is -of course- empty.[/QUOTE]

Just got Motorola A1000.

Apple Mac OSX will recognise A1000 through bluetooth, but set up iSync to transfer contacts & events and use with address book options are greyed out?? Desktop suite using usb cable that came with phone is all windows based.

What do I do to get the 2 devices to communicate???

please help

Stripeyjoe wrote:Alex,
any joy yet?
I've tried creating the SymbianConduitDefaults.plist by pasting the code into a text edit file and saving but still doesn't work.

I also delved around in the sync folder in system/library to see if there was anything I could edit to make work but nothing really said 'me... use me!'

Can you get the A1000 to 'mount' at all, even via usb? I'd like to put a few mp3s onto it for tube-time listening. If you put a transflash card in the phone will it mount via usb in the same way as a digital camera or flash drive?
Cheers,
Joe

is it also possible to make the same with the moto a925? Now the stupid a925 doesn't sync .....
thanks dretti :frown: