Will Nokia really soon dump Symbian?

Don't believe everything you read; ESPECIALLY on Msmobiles.com. 😉 The owner is a complete moron that got fired from Nokia and is apparently determined to spend the rest of his miserable little life making up stories of how great Micro$oft is and that Nokia and Symbian is the devil. No one in their right mind takes the kind of 'journalism' he spews out on that crappy site seriously.

Don't worry, it is just bullshit rumours based solely on Nokia's announcement of the Linux based tablet PC; the 770. 😊

Thanks Raven.

Raven wrote:Don't believe everything you read; ESPECIALLY on Msmobiles.com. 😉 The owner is a complete moron that got fired from Nokia and is apparently determined to spend the rest of his miserable little life making up stories of how great Micro$oft is and that Nokia and Symbian is the devil. No one in their right mind takes the kind of 'journalism' he spews out on that crappy site seriously.

Don't worry, it is just bullshit rumours based solely on Nokia's announcement of the Linux based tablet PC; the 770. 😊

That may be the case, but I like the site very much. I always, after a gloomy day, first look at Engadget and then at Msmobiles.

I personally think there should be no war between Symbian and MS because they serve absolutely different purposes.

Anyway : Who matters if Nokia changes their operating system. It was never compatible anyway. For every new Symbian phone you had to buy new software. So I do not see any importance in it. If it where an interoperable standard it would have been something else. Let them go to Linux so we may get some standards.

Huib

Huib van den Oever wrote:Who matters if Nokia changes their operating system. It was never compatible anyway. For every new Symbian phone you had to buy new software.

The problem there is with most developers using the phone's IMEI number for registration. But usually you can just e-mail the developer of the program you bought and provide them with your new phone's IMEI number, and you will get a new registration code. It isn't a perfect system, but that's just how it works, for now anyway.

Let them go to Linux so we may get some standards.

No one knows what will happen down the line, but for now, Nokia would be stupid to start competing with their own products. Symbian OS is also the leading smartphone OS by far and also the fastest growing one. So it is not like it is a sinking ship that needs rescuing by Linux.

for the near future I would bet my money on series60 enabled phones.
What the future brings is as good as anyones "wild guess".

I know that I shouldn't take seriously what is published on that site, but what about the gentleman mentioned in the article?

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4231.html

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You really should stop reading MSmobiles, BB33. 😊 Why don't you read what Russell Beattie really thinks, IN HIS OWN WORDS (http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1008610.html), and not that demented 'translation' made by MSmobiles. Can you believe that MSmobiles didn't even link to the original article?! In stead that tool just twists the truth around in favour of his beloved Microsoft with his usual poorly written attempt at journalism.

Btw., although Russell Beattie is right about the complications Symbian developers can face, I think his conclusion is wrong. But only time will tell...

Thanks again Raven, you are, as always, much better informed, but this is why you have become SuperModerator, isn't it?😊)

I am reading regularly the adversary's website, we all should.

Now a question - if we are in the communicator section - about the HTC Universal or MDA Pro / XDA Exec / I-mate JASJAR etc. I know there has been another thread about comparing it to the 9500 and I am going to post this there, too:
I can see only three advantages of the Communicator:
-Symbian OS
-better screen contrast
-less weight and better design
All the other factors give lead to the device which is getting on to the market in these days. Will Nokia able to compete?

BB333 wrote:-less weight and better design
All the other factors give lead to the device which is getting on to the market in these days. Will Nokia able to compete?

Plus using VPN, .net, Squelink etc etc etc etc.
Standard MSN built in so no blackmail from Agile.

How can you even hesitate buying this device.

Huib

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Huib van den Oever wrote:Ever been with a shoppinglist with your Communicator in a supermarket, opening and closing it every time?

Ever answered a call after checking who's calling first? On the Universal that is not possible without carrying the device with the screen exposed .

How can you say better design?

Because of the two screens, and because of the highly unattractive and dysfunctional width of the XDA.

What about the USB port that makes it possible to hook up this new machine to ANY computer, without installing software, using it as a flashdisk, gving it a drive letter. The USB lets you even load your battery.

Yes, that is a useful feature.

What about a STANDARD phone connector, a larger screen and standard SD card slot.

Communicators use STANDARD MMC cards. The pop-port has also become a standard among Nokia phones, though personally I hate it.

What about the advantage of entering an overwhelming word of software.

Only to make the device even buggier than it is to begin with.

How can you even hesitate buying this device.

How can you even think of blowing above $1000 on that thing.

what is this? We are talking computer hardware. I know MSmobiles is as subjective as you are here. At least this guy sometimes shouts to Microsoft, because he disagrees.

Wow, that's some insult. You are clearly not very informed. Do you know ANYTHING AT ALL about MSmobiles and the tool that runs it? Why don't you educate yourself: http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1008171.html .

Shouldn't this stop sometimes. Are forum users not trying to find the best value for money. They need objectivity.

This is a Symbian forum. Most of the users here have chosen a Symbian phone based on their preferences and often because of bad experiences with WM devices. If you don't like it here, just go to some forum discussing about ALL PDA/phones.

Who is worse: Nokia, selling this outdated and slow machine

That is YOUR opinion. Many of us wouldn't agree with you there.

or forum specialist that keep`S singing about this inferior product.

What exactly is it you hope to accomplish with this rant of yours? You say that it is an 'inferior' product, then why do you keep using it? And don't try to put down those of us that don't agree with you. Don't try to force your opinion on us

Driving to the dealer in the middle of nowhere to flash this damned thing and I still cannot read Excel.
Cannot even flash it via internet. How many kilometers and hours haven't I lost this way.

Sorry to hear about your bad experiences, but don't assume that everyone else has had the same experiences as you.

Just take some time an read this:

http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7031

and this:

http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7032

And this:

http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23111

Last one from a former 9500 user,

and then you will understand why.

The pop-port has also become a standard among Nokia phones

I think you are good in Latin.

This is wat we call a " contradictio in terminis"

Huib

Huib van den Oever wrote:Just take some time an read this:

http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23111

Last one from a former 9500 user,

and then you will understand why.

Yes, I understand;

- "OS is still not stable enough, and it is just not a phone"
- "it sucks when it comes to the web browser. Opera is so much better"
- "there is no software right now - a lot of apps I tried won't work, due to changes in Windows Mobile Version 5.0"
- "There are no profiles"
- "Symbian UI is really much easier to use"
- "The device is sluggish! The processor rating may be high, but it is working hard just in its basic state"
- "It is much slower than the 9500/9300 or P910i"
- "My internal web site uses a lot of Javascript and I cannot use it on Mobile IE"
- "There is an inherent efficiency with the Symbian OS that Microsoft can't seem to match"
- "If you compared the built in apps in this area on 9300/9500 vs WM5.0, Nokia wins!" (PIM)
- "Nokia wins on battery life"
- "memory is lacking in terms of RAM for running apps"
- "Screen - is very nice except in bright sunlight. Here the 9500/9300 wins the day"

Sure it has some good points as well, but those negative ones I gathered from the thread you linked to would certainly turn me off from buying it.

Anyway, I wish you luck on your purchase, Huib. I'm sure you will go back to Symbian though. The 'dark side' is tempting for a while, but they all come back. 😉