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Anyone using Opera 8.0?

4 replies · 1,799 views · Started 02 September 2005

I am just wondering if people who are using it are happy with the experience. Personally I used it for a few days but I went back to Opera 6.20 totally frustrated.
I complained on the Opera forum and indeed there were other people who weren't happy either.
The reaction from the Opera team has been very disappointing. They have not admitted that this release is flawed and they have refused to commit to any dates to provide corrections. As a result of my criticism I was banned by the Opera forum.
This experience has changed my perception of Opera as a whole company and I will not buy anything from Opera again in the future.

Anyway to stick to the point, I found several problems that made this browser unusable:

1) certain links cannot be selected when navigating pages; ironically this happens also when using forums in the Opera website!

2) most menus don't work correctly; this problem occurs on various sites that use javascript menus, one example: www.hattrick.org.

3) Opera has redesigned how the browser deals with forms. This choice has created a number of problems around text input fields:
-- text cannot be selected in any way as the pencil key doesn't work within Opera now. Imagine using web based email, you reply to a message of 30 lines and you need to delete most of the quote: impossible!
-- keeping the "c" key pressed doesn't delete multiple characters; (sorry those 30 lines of quote in your reply must really stay!)
-- T9 input is not working correctly in situations when you delete a character and want to change the word you are writing

4) Opera has introduced 4-way navigation in the browser; this means that links are selected automatically while moving around the page; this choice has slowed scrolling so much that I would call it crawling.

Based on these and other findings I dared call the browser "unusable" and I probably touched some sensitive areas of the Opera personnel.

Ok, here is my point of view. What is yours? Are you happy with the new Opera release? Are you using it at all?

UA

Reposted, since Utenteanonimo64 repeats his spamming ways in this forum:

I must strongly object to Utenteanonimo64's misleading, nay, completely false and preposterous lies about Opera.

As a long time Opera fan and Nokia user, I am appalled to see these lies being propagated on the net.

Utenteanonimo64 may be telling the truth when he says that he was banned and his posts removed.

But he is not telling the whole story.

The fact is that Utenteanonimo64 has for a long time been harassing the Opera forums by flooding it with off-topic, derogatory comments about individuals and companies. He has been spreading lies and hijacking other people's threads with nothing bot flaming and abuse.

He was apparently warned repeatedly by the moderators before he was finally banned!

There are plenty of posts and threads criticizing Opera in their forums, and they are not being removed. The reason why Utenteanonimo64's posts are being removed is that they are insulting, off-topic, and repeated over and over and over again.

Before you pass judgement based on hearsay in a forum posted by an individual who has a history of abusing others, you will hopefully take the time to see the other side of the story from someone who witnessed his abusive behavior first hand.

Rather than arguing with an Opera "fan" I will answer in a different way.
I have contacted Opera customer support regarding three major (in my opinion of course) problems in Opera 8.0 for S60. Here are my support requests and the related answers. In my opinion (again in my opinion) the browser is unusable until these three (and some other) problems have been fixed; still the reply is "this is something we are looking at changing, we don't have a timeline, etc"

UA

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Q:
> It's impossible to select text in a form to perform quick multicharacter
> deletion or copy/paste function. This used to work in Opera 6.20 on S60.

A:
Copy/paste has not been supported in Opera. This is something we are
looking at changing.
Copy/paste used to work automatically when using Nokia Form Controlls,
unfortunately it doesn't in the latest version.

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Q:

> I'm using a Nokia 6630 and i'm having problems navigating forum threads in
> the Opera forums.

A:
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
This is a known issue and we are currently working on it.

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Q:
> I'm having problems accessing a site that uses Javascript popup menus. I get
> the menu to pop up, but I can't navigate to the items in it.

A:
Opera does not support everything on Skandiabanken currently. We are
working on this, but I do not have a timeline for it.

Of course you can't argue with the facts I present. The questions and answers you post are nothing but a red herring. I am sure you got those answers. I am sure that you didn't like them. Tough.

The bottom line is that just because you don't like the answers you got doesn't mean that you are free to flood their forums with abusive off-topic posts that destroy other people's discussions.