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n70 & tomtom mobile 5

28 replies · 18,966 views · Started 10 November 2005

Hi !

I am new to this so please be nice !

I have just ordered a new nokia n70 (it is coming tomorrow !), I want to purchase TomTom Mobile 5 sat nav package, however i have just called TomTom and they say that the software is not compatible with the n70 ??

However people on this forum seem to be running this !

Is this just TomTom being cautious?

Is it worth buying now or waiting till TomTom say it's compatible ?

One of the main reasons I got the phone was to run TomTom !...I get lost a lot !

Please Advise !!

Russ

Mine TTM5 dont work AT ALL on my N70...... If the bluetooth dont cut off at random, it just freezes my phone with a white screen anyway! Ive given up using it! The 7610 is much more reliable so i use that for sat nav instead!

just wanted to post the following:-
i copied the tom tom files to my memory card, then inserted it. i then went to the "my own" menu and options, followed by application downloads and more software. it searched and found the needed files which i then put into my mobile phone main menu tom tom mobile 5 working fine. hope this helps people.

Nice one thanks

I am going to order tomtom 5 tomorrow ...so should hopefully have it on tuesday !!

The cheapest I have seen it is �175 on innovations website...seems reasonable as the receivers are �90 on their own !

russellis wrote:Hi !

I am new to this so please be nice !

I have just ordered a new nokia n70 (it is coming tomorrow !), I want to purchase TomTom Mobile 5 sat nav package, however i have just called TomTom and they say that the software is not compatible with the n70 ??

However people on this forum seem to be running this !

Is this just TomTom being cautious?

Is it worth buying now or waiting till TomTom say it's compatible ?

One of the main reasons I got the phone was to run TomTom !...I get lost a lot !

Please Advise !!

Russ

dude i think u should waite till dey say its ok cos wot if it want work and u would av to return it and waite and u would be disaponted well so i think u should waite till it is ok dat is my advise to you but i am not saying you shouldent buy it now cos it is up to u

I have it now !!

All seems well so far !...I have had one dropped connection ...which resulted in me having to switch my phone Off and On ...but I put this down to bluetooth being a bit tempremental ......

But overhall I am well pleased with it !!!

Hi all,

Looks like I posted my 'cure' too soon and without enough testing. :frown:

Although I managed a 90 minute BT GPS connection last night with v5.2 of TomTom, this was done indoors with the GPS on the window ledge and in a static position.

Today my N70 crashed repeatedly when I was in the car following a genuine route of 20 miles from my home to a friends place.

Back to the drawing board for everyone! Hope a reliable solution is found soon.

Cheers,
Dez

Have you tried with another gps, my problem is that when I shall paire the units after a natural disconnection I have to reboot my phone... When I get connected though, the navigation is good.

Still hoping for a crack to the 5.20...

Hi,

One of my work colleagues has the official TomTom GPS II receiver so I may try to borrow his at some point to test with my N70. However, he is currently on 2 weeks leave so I am not able to get hold of the TomTom receiver at the moment.

I have heard a 5.20 Crack is available on BitTorrent and eMule P2P networks, but as the official version didn't cure my problems there's no guarantee it would help you out.

It is very strange that I can keep a permanent GPS connection when stationary, and the N70 only crashes when my car is in motion?????

Dez

I have the new update of TTM5 but I noticed the driver update on their screen shot is not the same.........mine says app ver 5.2000 but driver is still showing old GPS driver v1.20.......................Yet their driver on site says v1.21 Any ideas? PS i have BT GPS and still crashes with new version.

Hi all,

I am starting to think there's more wrong with Bluetooth on the N70 than incompatabilities with TomTom5...

... today I had problems connecting to a Motorola HS810 headset.

The headset connected fine this morning at the start of my car journey, and I even received a short voice call, with the N70 auto-answering the call and routing audio via the HS810.

I then stopped for a coffee half way into my journey and shut off the HS810.
When I tried to reconnect the HS810, the nokia (*) logo appeared but the "Connected to Motorola HS810" message did not appear. Being suspicious, I asked my passenger to phone me and lo and behold, the phone rang and rang until O2 voicemail took over.

I attempted to manually start the BT connection in the Bluetooth paired-devices menu, and received an error'unable to start a conneciton with this device'

The only way to get the headset working again was to reboot the N70, then all worked fine.

Club Nokia's technical helpdesk told me that they did not recommend using a Motorola Headset (or anything else non Nokia branded) with Nokia phones.

The chap also stated that Nokia are not aware of any known problems with the N70 model. Does this (disappointing) response sound familiar folks?

Dez

I too have occasional problems with my Moto HS810 headset. It is always solved with a re-start of the handset.

I cannot believe the Nokia response, that is very poor. I might change my handset on an annual basis but I don't expect to be told I need to use their headset. How hard can it be for these things to be compatible? It's not as if Bluetooth is a proprietry protocol.

I do have the odd problem where Tomtom does nto see my MK11 Tomtom wireless GPS. I always start tomtom then the GPS, go to the GPS status screen, congigure the tomtom wireless GPS and it almost always finds it.

I realise it should work a bit more smoothly than this but it really doesn't cause me too much trouble and it works just fine for almost all of my journeys (nothing more than 1 hour so far)

I will not rush to update until I see that N70 is now supported. I have too many settings to lose!

Gavin

Hi Gav,

I have sold my 3rd party GPS receiver and ordered an official TomTom5 GPS Receiver. Hopefully this will be somwhat more reliable. If not, then the N70 will have to be returned and I will go back to the previous 6680 (or even get a non Nokia PDA instead) lol.

Shame cos the N70 is wonderful step forward for Nokia, if only Bluetooth worked properly (and the annoying Radio interference was cured).

It would be nice if Nokia would even admit a problem exists with the model.

Dez

I have now installed the 5.20 update and so far everything is working!!! JIPPI.

I have not experienced any of my previous problems - that mainly was to reboot the phone to establish a gps connection (after it was naturally turned off).

The thing that doesn't work good though is to use bluetooth HS (11-ws) at the same time as navigating with tomtom. Everything is going very slow then, and eventually the phone hangs (I'm not a pacient person😊. Seems to me like the processor isn't big enough😡

Perhaps a new firmware will appear soon?

Hi Loke.nor, and you other N70 users, having problems with bluetooth/ TT5 connection. I have been having similar annoying symptoms and would really appreciate if you could tell me where you installed update from. Every journey requires me to power off N70 to reconnect GPS!

My version of TT5 from e-bay, so wondering if your fix going to be any good?? I agree the N70 is a great phone......this the only problem! Hope someone can help. Thanks 😊

Hi proact,

A couple of postings ago, I mentioned the official (Registered Users) update to TT5.20 is available on the manufacturers website at

http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?Language=1&FID=3571

N.B. This patch will not work will illegal copies of TT5!

Even after applying the patch, my N70 is still crashing with a 3rd party Bluetooth GPS receiver, although it only does so when my car is in motion - if I sit in my house or in my car stationary, the GPS & TT work fine for hours! Totally pointless but that's my experience.

Hi Lore,

From what I hear the N70 is twice as powerful as the 6680 so your problems can't be due to lack of processing power on the N70. I think there's something wrong with either TT5 GPS drivers, or N70 Bluetooth drivers, or even BOTH.

Cheers, 😮
Dez

Hi chaps,
Just bought a N70 and I would like to use it as a gps if possible, could you please help me out ? what I need is a list of things needed to make this happens and where to get the best deal.
Is it possible to download the TT5 from the net? if yes where? will it work?
I will really apreciate all the help that you could give.
thanks
Mark😃 😃 😃

Thanks Dez, I am considering switching to R66, think this is gonna be a problem with TT5, will go for genuine R66 for peace of mind, although the copy I have works well before "time-out", will keep trying to find a solution, through contacts and browsing forums, if I hear of anything will post.

Would still like to find crack for TT5 to compare the two! Could then offer some first hand advice to markthebull. Also interested if anyone has any good downloadable software for N70.....been so pre-occupied with GPS that not really explored its full potential.....

Thanks again

Rob

loke.nor wrote:I have now installed the 5.20 update and so far everything is working!!! JIPPI.

Hi Loke.nor,

Is everything still OK for you?

I bought an official TomTom MK II receiver and although the phone does not crash, the Bluetoothn connection still drops every 5-20 minutes and will not reconnect until I reboot the phone.

I am at a loss on what to try next. Sometimes I wish I had kept my 6680 which worked really well with TT5.0!

Dez

Hi all,

I was close to giving up completely with the N70 and Tomtom, but saw an idea on another website (OFFLINE mode) that claimed to resolve the crashing and connection dropping on the N70.

I have expanded on this idea to include all the best practice ideas from other users of this forum in recent weeks, as described below...

Before each journey...

1. Reboot the phone
2. Delete ALL BT pairings
3. Activate the OFFLINE profile on the phone (you will not be able to send/receive calls or sms whilst using TomTom)
4. Enable Bluetooth and make phone Hidden from other BT devices
4. Launch TomTom
5. Enter the pin 0000 for the OFFICIAL TomTom receiver.
6. Enjoy a trouble free GPS connection!

I have today completed a 2 hour journey without a single crash of the N70 and without the BT connection dropping out for the duration of the trip (approx 90miles over class A and Class B roads).

You may remember I mentioned previously that I could maintain a GPS-BT conneciton for many hours if I was stationary in my house, but that TomTom would crash or lose the BT connection within 20 minutes when actually mobile in my car?

One possible explanation for the difference OFFLINE mode makes (al least for me) is that when driving, a mobile phone continuously re-registers itself to the closest network cell, or even loses reception altogether. My theory is that re-registering on a new cell, or continuous scanning for a signal when in a poor reception area is causing TomTom to fail when both Network Registration and GPS functionality are used at the same time.

Hopefully, TomTom or Nokia (or both) will provide a permanent fix soon, so that both TT and Mobile Network functions can be used at the same time on the N70 in a reliable way.

It's a shame that neither TomTom nor Nokia have a presence in these forums so they can pass on problems to the technical teams and pass back information to us all.

The N70 is going to be far to popular a handset for TT and Nokia to both ignore the problem or fail to find a permanent solution.

Please post your experience here and let me know if OFFLINE mode works for some of you as well as it dod for me.

Cheers,
Dez😎

I have just completed a 90 minute journey and the phone didn't crash, and the BT connection was not lost even once.

dez_borders wrote:Hi Loke.nor,

Is everything still OK for you?

I bought an official TomTom MK II receiver and although the phone does not crash, the Bluetoothn connection still drops every 5-20 minutes and will not reconnect until I reboot the phone.

I am at a loss on what to try next. Sometimes I wish I had kept my 6680 which worked really well with TT5.0!

Dez



Yes! Actually everything is working fine (almost). My earlier problem was that I had problem with connecting the bt-gps to tomtom after connection had naturally shut down. I have never had problems when the connection is established.

However I have had a couple of connection problems, even with the 5.20😡

But this is what I have had success with....:

When you shall disconnect the bt-gps and tomtom, you must first shutdown the gps. Then when the tomtom software reports "no gps unit" - you can shutdown tomtom software.

When I do the above there is no problems with connecting the receiver again.

Perhaps others succeeds with this to? Good luck:redface:

Hi,

I posted a support request to Club Nokia UK about the problem about a week ago. Today I received an email asking me for my software version on the N70, plus the manugfacturer and model of all my bluetooth devices.

Will keep everyone posted if I get any information back from Nokia UK Technical Support.

Regards,
Dez😎

Hi all,

Nokia were of little use, their response was to ask for loads of details about the N70 software version, Network, and all Bluetooth devices I own. Following on from this they simply told me to take the handset to a Nokia Service Centre (a 50 mile drive!) for it to be assessed for a repair - *IF* the fault was covered by the warranty...

My supplier, E2SAVE/Carphone Warehouse today informed me that they cannot replace the faulty N70 handset as "ALL O2 N70's have a serious software fault and O2 will not release any stock to customers until they have received new software from Nokia and acceptance tested it".

There is no E.T.A. for the completion of testing and therefore it could be at least 3 weeks (according to E2SAVE) before they have any N70 stock available to their customers.

I obtained a Returns Authorisation Code and cancelled my contract. Perhaps in 6 months when the N70 actually works, I will try again!

Poor poor show, Nokia!!!
:icon13:

Hi all,

Nokia were of little use, their response was to ask for loads of details about the N70 software version, Network, and all Bluetooth devices I own. Following on from this they simply told me to take the handset to a Nokia Service Centre (a 50 mile drive!) for it to be assessed for a repair - *IF* the fault was covered by the warranty...

My supplier, E2SAVE/Carphone Warehouse today informed me that they cannot replace the faulty N70 handset as "ALL O2 N70's have a serious software fault and O2 will not release any stock to customers until they have received new software from Nokia and acceptance tested it".

There is no E.T.A. for the completion of testing and therefore it could be at least 3 weeks (according to E2SAVE) before they have any N70 stock available to their customers.

I obtained a Returns Authorisation Code and cancelled my contract. Perhaps in 6 months when the N70 actually works, I will try again!

Poor poor show, Nokia!!!
:icon13:

Hi,

I received the following via email to day from TomTom Support Team...
At least they are considering supporting the N70, although it's too late for me.

D :frown:

Dear Dez,

Our team is testing the Nokia N 70 but for now we cant say if it will be compatible or not.
If the Nokia will be compatible it will be on our web site.

With best regards,

The TomTom Customer Support Team