Look, ma, no reset hole!

Well, the 7650 I had didn't ever require reseting.

The P800 and P900 required a soft reset (i.e. battery out and back in) every month or so due to memory leak problems. You could get a third party utility to reocever most of the memory and run it every few days, but eventually it needed a full reset. It wouldn't crash though. Just get slower. Both the P800 and P900 also locked completely on two occassions and had to be completely rebuilt from scratch.

With my current XDAIIs it's hard to compare. It soft resets itself every day after a full backup so memory leaks aren't a problem. And, in just over a year, it too has required a complete rebuild on two occasions.

So, my experience's are fairly similar for both symbian and PPC.

However I will say that the PPC always feels like it might crash. I don't know what it is, but the symbian devices have always felt more stable even though experience shows they are much the same.

The only device that ever lost me data was a Windows powered Smartphone. Sure, my Symbian devices have crashed at (rare) times, but they've never actually lost me anything.

That is important to me.

I used a Casio E-105 Palm-sized PC, a Nokia 7650 and now a T-Mobile MDA compact.

For a couple of times I did have to switch my 7650 on and off but this happened like once or twice a month.

For my Windows CE devices it is a totally different story. Hangups did occurr quite frequently especially after installing third party software. So the blame goes to the OS design as well as software programmers.

Since using a flat rate on GPRS with my MDA compact using Internet Explorer and Messaging and profile software Phone Alarm I do have to reset my device at least once a day!

I am now contemplating switching to a Nokia N90 although I would rather wait for the N80 or E70. But I dont have much faith that these devices will actually be on sale in Q1 2005.

Anyone know more specific release dates for these phones?

I used a Casio E-105 Palm-sized PC, a Nokia 7650 and now a T-Mobile MDA compact.

For a couple of times I did have to switch my 7650 on and off but this happened like once or twice a month.

For my Windows CE devices it is a totally different story. Hangups did occurr quite frequently especially after installing third party software. So the blame goes to the OS design as well as software programmers.

Since using a flat rate on GPRS with my MDA compact using Internet Explorer and Messaging and profile software Phone Alarm I do have to reset my device at least once a day!

I am now contemplating switching to a Nokia N90 although I would rather wait for the N80 or E70. But I dont have much faith that these devices will actually be on sale in Q1 2005.

Anyone know more specific release dates for these phones?

Symbian devices do crash. Here's how to make your 6620 flaky: get a big 2GB MMC card and install a theme on it and tell your 6620 to use that theme. Power on the 6620 and it'll hang on bootup occasionally. You then have to unzip the case, pop the back, pop the battery and then put it back together. If you stick w/ the default theme, you don't have this issue. I don't remember any crashes besides this though but I'm sure I've had a few, albeit rare.

On the other hand, using navigation software , Oggplayer, Smartmovie, etc., the Nokia 6620 is craploads more stable than a PocketPC running WM2003 (which says a lot about how crappy PocketPC is 😊. The PocketPC would crash on startup, crash on shutdown, etc. when you tried to use bluetooth or forgot you had it on (MS has a crap Bluetooth stack). If you look at the PocketPC forum on HowardForums, you can see how often resets are needed...sadly, it doesn't sound like they've ironed out all the bugs... :-P

...because it constantly performs soft resets on it's own.

My 6630 performs a soft reset every couple of days or so on it's own. This is ever so slightly annoying as it means I can't have any long running software.

>>2GB MMC card

2GB cards aren't really supported by Nokia/Symbian OS smartphones of that vintage. They'll work patchily, which is what you're seeing.

1GB work fine. Mind you, ask Nokia, they'll probably say that 128MB is the max 8-)

Steve

Honestly my 6630 used to have a lot of bluetooth related crashes and I wouldn't have minded a reset hole! After a firmware update in the summer it has become much more stable but it still crashes occasionally.

' Hmm... I dunno if the other bloke reporting on his P900 didn't have an icky-build mebbe... Most all people I know with P9x0 devices have had experiences less hectic than mine - prolly 'cause I'm a power-user...
' Anyways... In the 20 or 21 months I've had my P900 I've had a number of "auto-resets" ('for device speed & stability' reasons, you dig?) I can count on fewer than all me fingers - probably closer to a single-hand's worth! And I've had to manually "reset" my system about the same number of times - a manual reset meaning depressing the power button about twice as long as is usually required so as to restart the device... I've NEVER had to remove batteries or anything.
' And I've NEVER lost data - even through around 3 firmware updates done myself, and so on.
' Coming from a Psion 3a, on to a 5mx, and finally my P900 I think I remember even FEWER problems back then (which is fair considering complexity comparisons).
' Fact: Right now in the mobile space there's nothing that comes even close to challenging symbian on a purely technical level!!!