Freeware signing concerns

Hi,

Can you send your query to [email][email protected][/email]. You can post the
responses to this thread if you wish for others to read.

Nishaat R.
Symbian Signed.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:39:37 +0800, "Arjen Broeze"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm considering to get my freeware application Symbian Signed. After reading
>the CellMania terms of service when checking the signup process on the
>symbiansigned website I'm a little concerned:
>
>1. CellMania reserves the right not to test or, when tested, not to sign
>your application, even if all the tests are passed, without the need for
>giving you a reason. This clause gives them the perfect excuse not to do
>anything for freeware developers. Suppose I want to submit my current
>freeware Series 80 application for signing, will they reject me because
>signing is not mandatory for this platform yet (i.e. signed and unsigned
>application both have the same rights on the system). I'd like to have more
>insight in why an application will be accepted or rejected.
>2. Supposing CellMania does sign the application, it is signed with their
>own ACS Publisher ID. Does this mean that the signed application will have
>the name "CellMania" (instead of "Nokia OK" or "Symbian OK"😉 in the
>installation dialog?
>3. CellMania (or their selected partner) may use your name and email address
>to send you information they think might be relevant for you. Sound like my
>mailbox will get even more spam after sumbitting my application for testing,
>4. (minor point, but still confusing) The CellMania terms and conditions
>seem to be a copy of their terms and conditions (with some minor
>modifications for freeware signing) for submitting an application to
>CellMania's mFinder program. A lot of terms and conditions therefore seem
>not be applicable to freeware signing, but it's hard to tell which ones.
>
>Although I applaud the initiative that freeware can be tested for free, I do
>have some problems with the current setup:
>a. if you accept the terms of service, you also accept the fact that your
>application can be rejected without reason (i.e. you cannot protect against
>it) and you're getting additional commercial emails without asking for them
>b. there's no alternative (except to fork of 500$ per year for your own ACS
>Publisher ID and I don't know how many dollars for getting your application
>tested). This is not an option for freeware developers, so you're stuck with
>either using CellMania or accept that you can only use a very limited set of
>APIs.
>
>I'd love to hear some other opinions about this. If you think I'm rambling
>and/or speaking gibberish and/or paranoid, please correct me.
>
>Best regards
>Arjen Broeze
>

Is there anybody who has successfully signed freeware application? I have
submitted my freeware application about three weeks ago, but I don't know
the status of my submission. No email at all... 😞

I have written two emails to [email][email protected][/email]. I got reply from
the first email, saying they will contact CellMania as soon as possible.
One week later, I wrote the second email because I still didn't get any
status update. Unfortunately, I didn't get any reply at all from the second
email.

So if someone has successfully sign freeware application, could you please
share your experience? SymbianSigned.com web site says that it should take
10-15 days for testing. Unfortunately, it has been more than 15 days for my
case and nothing happens.

At least if they don't want to sign my freeware application, I would expect
some kind like rejection letter, "Your application is not qualified for
SymbianSigned.com because blah... blah..." (for example, because my freeware
is too simple and useless).

I don't want Symbian OS freeware communities die because of this
administration thing.

Antony

"Nishaat R." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> Can you send your query to [email][email protected][/email]. You can post the
> responses to this thread if you wish for others to read.
>
> Nishaat R.
> Symbian Signed.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:39:37 +0800, "Arjen Broeze"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I'm considering to get my freeware application Symbian Signed. After
>>reading
>>the CellMania terms of service when checking the signup process on the
>>symbiansigned website I'm a little concerned:
>>
>>1. CellMania reserves the right not to test or, when tested, not to sign
>>your application, even if all the tests are passed, without the need for
>>giving you a reason. This clause gives them the perfect excuse not to do
>>anything for freeware developers. Suppose I want to submit my current
>>freeware Series 80 application for signing, will they reject me because
>>signing is not mandatory for this platform yet (i.e. signed and unsigned
>>application both have the same rights on the system). I'd like to have
>>more
>>insight in why an application will be accepted or rejected.
>>2. Supposing CellMania does sign the application, it is signed with their
>>own ACS Publisher ID. Does this mean that the signed application will have
>>the name "CellMania" (instead of "Nokia OK" or "Symbian OK"😉 in the
>>installation dialog?
>>3. CellMania (or their selected partner) may use your name and email
>>address
>>to send you information they think might be relevant for you. Sound like
>>my
>>mailbox will get even more spam after sumbitting my application for
>>testing,
>>4. (minor point, but still confusing) The CellMania terms and conditions
>>seem to be a copy of their terms and conditions (with some minor
>>modifications for freeware signing) for submitting an application to
>>CellMania's mFinder program. A lot of terms and conditions therefore seem
>>not be applicable to freeware signing, but it's hard to tell which ones.
>>
>>Although I applaud the initiative that freeware can be tested for free, I
>>do
>>have some problems with the current setup:
>>a. if you accept the terms of service, you also accept the fact that your
>>application can be rejected without reason (i.e. you cannot protect
>>against
>>it) and you're getting additional commercial emails without asking for
>>them
>>b. there's no alternative (except to fork of 500$ per year for your own
>>ACS
>>Publisher ID and I don't know how many dollars for getting your
>>application
>>tested). This is not an option for freeware developers, so you're stuck
>>with
>>either using CellMania or accept that you can only use a very limited set
>>of
>>APIs.
>>
>>I'd love to hear some other opinions about this. If you think I'm rambling
>>and/or speaking gibberish and/or paranoid, please correct me.
>>
>>Best regards
>>Arjen Broeze
>>[/color]

Finally I got my application signed (check it out at
http://www.antonypranata.com/screenshot/).
It seems last time Symbian Signed for freeware was not up and running yet.

Antony