I work for a commercial software developer for Palm, Windows Mobile Pocket PC and Smartphone. As the Symbian phones are starting to gain some traction here in the US, we'd like to port our applications to it. I'm in charge of the Symbian ports - I'm thinking about getting the 6682 as a first device to develop with. I've never seen the 6682 in person...
Our application connects to the internet and accesses data online. I'd like to do the same thing with the 6682 but I don't want to have to connect via a GSM/GPRS account while porting the software and testing it. Is there a way to get an internet connection with the 6682 via an attached PC using Bluetooth or USB?
Thanks for any help you can give. If possible, I'd like to know the steps necessary to connect via Bluetooth or USB. I'm sorry if this is a very basic and newbie question - I don't even have the hardware in my hand yet to experiment with.
Oh...and anyone who gives me good answers will get a free version of our Symbian products before they are released. Honest!
rulirahm wrote:Try this 😊
Excellent - thank you for the reference. Have you actually done that and gotten it to work?
Actually this is a lot tricker than it sounds (unsuprisingly). As a developer you are better off testing in the emulator where you can use your PC's internet connection.
If you want some publicity for your products at release please let us know (new at allaboutsymbian.com or me - rafe at allaboutsymbian.com).
Thanks, Rafe. I know that your site is on the early announcement list for anything Symbian. Truth be told, this is the only site that I'm hanging out on to learn the day-to-day issues for these smartphones. I wonder how many developers realize how much great stuff you have on here!
There is no question that I'll be using the emulator for development. The thing is that emulators are generally much quicker than the real hardware. I definitely need real hardware connected to the internet in order to make sure that the user will experience proper responsiveness while using our products. Testing with real hardware probably only accounts for 5% of the testing effort but it is a very important 5%. Otherwise we'll end up with a wonderful product for the emulator and a sluggish one on the actual hardware!
It's OK if getting a network connection is a tricky thing to accomplish. I just want to make sure that the 6682 is capable of doing it before I put in to purchase one and then have to explain why I made the wrong choice!
I went through the entire "TECH PAKISTAN" thread and it mostly makes sense (although I can't walk through it until I get the real hardware). I'm basically looking for reassurance that I will be able to get a network connection through. And if I can't do that with a 6682, is there a more appropriate device to use for testing that will give me the experience testing that I need.
Thanks again for your help.
Hmmm.
The thing I would say is that I did look at data connection via PC at some point for S60 2nd Edition plus phones, but I decided it wasn't worth the hassle. I was under the impression it wasn't possible with the most recent handsets.
While it was relatively easy in 1st Edition phones it is defintely not easy in 2nd Edition (if it works at all).
In terms of real testing - you'll have to use a real cellular connection. Bluetooth via PC (if it works) is much faster. I am fairly sure that the issue will be (at the moment anyway) speed of data transfer not speed of the device (a lot of this is down to latency).
To be honest I think it would probably be easier to sign up for one of the unlimited data tariffs. My understanding of this is that if you only using it on the device you can get this for around $20 on T-Mobile.
You might also want to bear in mind that there's going to be a lot of 3rd Edition devices coming onto the market this year. These are binary incompatiable with 2nd Edition so is something you should consider in development (i.e the need to develop for both 2nd and 3rd). Some of these devices have Wifi (N80, N91, E70, E60, E61) which will be an alternative connection option. You may end up needing to get a 3rd Edition device for testing.
There's obviously more to it than that, but hopefully this answer your question!
I think if the 6682 supports for internet connection via BT, then we won't get error on it. I believe that Nokia corp. has tested their products so many times before they put it on the market.
Many problem I heard about BT's internet connection, it's because of the human error, h/w or s/w such as BT, WindowsXP firewall etc.
Share ur app (beta/trial) to people and let them telling u the bugs found.
I'm very much a beginner on the 6682 (cingular US) and with symbian, but have had good luck so far. I initially tried the nokia connection kit (cdrom and USB cable that came with the phone) and this looks useful to back up the phone's settings, but didn't generate a valid internet dial-up configuration (for dial-up connections giving service to a laptop.) That wasn't too hard to fix. I then shifted to bluetooth and have settled on that for both dial-up support to laptop/PDA as well as exporting software programs to the phone. I install programs by sending the ".SIS" file using the bluetooth program on the PC to the inbox on the phone (the phone is very anxious to execute any incoming .SIS file, so I suspect that there could be some security concerns there). I'm using a Dlink DBT-120 bluetooth device but I'm sure others would work as well. I eventually uninstalled a couple of programs I wasn't happy with, and this was done using the phone's program manager (it was sometimes necessary to restart the phone as some apps appeared to leave running threads/processes that would prevent removal.) Anyway, the symbian environment seems very nice for adding phone software features.
Good luck in your software project,
Dave
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