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CON-01 "the application can be closed through the task list"

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Hi,

regarding the test CON-01 "the application can be closed through the task
list".

I have a series 60 application. The symbian signed web site states Use
native Task List of Series 60 by holding down the menu key. This brings up
all the running tasks in the top left hand corner of the screen.

the symbian signed test criteria then says "close application from task
list".

I can see how i would task to my application using the task list and then
close it from the menu that i have implemented in my application. However i
can�t see an option to close my application FROM the task list.

What have i missed with this?

Cheers

PL

Hi
If you press the "C" button while in the task list it gives you the option
to close the application. I think the document is insufficient - I'll ask
for an update.
Regards
H

"petxolobo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:gDzArfESGHA.1624@extapps30...
> Hi,
>
> regarding the test CON-01 "the application can be closed through the task
> list".
>
> I have a series 60 application. The symbian signed web site states Use
> native Task List of Series 60 by holding down the menu key. This brings
> up all the running tasks in the top left hand corner of the screen.
>
> the symbian signed test criteria then says "close application from task
> list".
>
> I can see how i would task to my application using the task list and then
> close it from the menu that i have implemented in my application. However
> i can�t see an option to close my application FROM the task list.
>
> What have i missed with this?
>
> Cheers
>
> PL
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Hamish,

Who'd 'a thunk it? The C button!! Thanks for the tip 😉

The problem, or rather issue, that i have now is that my application
launches a dialog when the user selects "exit" to ask them if they are
really sure that they want to exit. I realise that this is not entirely
conventional and i did agonise over doing it. But the problem that i had
was that users where getting a little over enthusiastic with the right hand
softkey whilst in the application (due to way the rest of the UI works) and
accidently dumping themselves out of the app.

Do I have to get rid of this dialog if the request to exit the app comes
from outside the app?

I'm suspecting that that is what the purpose of this test is but i thought
i'd check before requesting a functionality change from my dev guys.

Cheers

PL

"Hamish Willee" <[email protected]> escribi� en el mensaje
news:zwFlU2HSGHA.1940@extapps30...
> Hi
> If you press the "C" button while in the task list it gives you the option
> to close the application. I think the document is insufficient - I'll ask
> for an update.
> Regards
> H
>
> "petxolobo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:gDzArfESGHA.1624@extapps30...[color=green]
>> Hi,
>>
>> regarding the test CON-01 "the application can be closed through the task
>> list".
>>
>> I have a series 60 application. The symbian signed web site states Use
>> native Task List of Series 60 by holding down the menu key. This brings
>> up all the running tasks in the top left hand corner of the screen.
>>
>> the symbian signed test criteria then says "close application from task
>> list".
>>
>> I can see how i would task to my application using the task list and then
>> close it from the menu that i have implemented in my application.
>> However i can�t see an option to close my application FROM the task list.
>>
>> What have i missed with this?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> PL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>[/color]

Hi

I didn't think it was particularly obvious either - I've requested for the
next version of the test criteria to be updated in line with this 😊

> Do I have to get rid of this dialog if the request to exit the app comes
> from outside the app?

For UIQ, apps do not have a Close option - the OS closes them automatically
when memory gets low, which is why its important that the application shuts
down via this trigger. For UIQ I would therefore have said you definitely
need to redesign the UI to allow this to shut down (otherwise the user would
get an annoying prompt while randomly using another program.
For Series 60 most apps do appear to have a "Close function" as the second
option, and I suspect that this test is provided so that users have a
mechanism to invoke the close function even if the application is otherwise
frozen and cannot be tasked to. I can't give you a cannonical answer as I
don't know whether S60 does any memory management that would call the close
automatically. SOmething for you to research! If it does, then yes, again
you do need to change this.

If it were me ....I would recode this to remove the "are you sure" in any
case?. If the close button on the main pane is causing a problem, replace it
with nothing or another button and move the close function to a menu item.

Regards
H

"petxolobo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0vnObGOSGHA.1624@extapps30...
> Hi Hamish,
>
> Who'd 'a thunk it? The C button!! Thanks for the tip 😉
>
> The problem, or rather issue, that i have now is that my application
> launches a dialog when the user selects "exit" to ask them if they are
> really sure that they want to exit. I realise that this is not entirely
> conventional and i did agonise over doing it. But the problem that i had
> was that users where getting a little over enthusiastic with the right
> hand softkey whilst in the application (due to way the rest of the UI
> works) and accidently dumping themselves out of the app.
>
> Do I have to get rid of this dialog if the request to exit the app comes
> from outside the app?
>
> I'm suspecting that that is what the purpose of this test is but i thought
> i'd check before requesting a functionality change from my dev guys.
>
> Cheers
>
> PL
>
>
> "Hamish Willee" <[email protected]> escribi� en el mensaje
> news:zwFlU2HSGHA.1940@extapps30...[color=green]
>> Hi
>> If you press the "C" button while in the task list it gives you the
>> option to close the application. I think the document is insufficient -
>> I'll ask for an update.
>> Regards
>> H
>>
>> "petxolobo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:gDzArfESGHA.1624@extapps30...[color=darkred]
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> regarding the test CON-01 "the application can be closed through the
>>> task list".
>>>
>>> I have a series 60 application. The symbian signed web site states Use
>>> native Task List of Series 60 by holding down the menu key. This brings
>>> up all the running tasks in the top left hand corner of the screen.
>>>
>>> the symbian signed test criteria then says "close application from task
>>> list".
>>>
>>> I can see how i would task to my application using the task list and
>>> then close it from the menu that i have implemented in my application.
>>> However i can�t see an option to close my application FROM the task
>>> list.
>>>
>>> What have i missed with this?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> PL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

I previously had a Symbian Signed app fail because of an "are you sure"
type message. I got round the problem by only showing the message while
the app was in foreground. i.e. Cancel via C while app is in background
doesn't show the message.

I was keeping the foreground/background state anyway to allow the app to
recover from phone interruptions during long http operations - else the
app would have taken control of the UI at the end of the long operation
when the user might be editing a reply text! (which was another Symbian
Signed nightmare scenario)

Simon Judge
http://simonjudge.com

petxolobo wrote:
> Hi Hamish,
>
> Who'd 'a thunk it? The C button!! Thanks for the tip 😉
>
> The problem, or rather issue, that i have now is that my application
> launches a dialog when the user selects "exit" to ask them if they are
> really sure that they want to exit. I realise that this is not entirely
> conventional and i did agonise over doing it. But the problem that i had
> was that users where getting a little over enthusiastic with the right hand
> softkey whilst in the application (due to way the rest of the UI works) and
> accidently dumping themselves out of the app.
>
> Do I have to get rid of this dialog if the request to exit the app comes
> from outside the app?
>
> I'm suspecting that that is what the purpose of this test is but i thought
> i'd check before requesting a functionality change from my dev guys.
>
> Cheers
>
> PL
>
>
> "Hamish Willee" <[email protected]> escribi� en el mensaje
> news:zwFlU2HSGHA.1940@extapps30...[color=green]
>> Hi
>> If you press the "C" button while in the task list it gives you the option
>> to close the application. I think the document is insufficient - I'll ask
>> for an update.
>> Regards
>> H
>>
>> "petxolobo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:gDzArfESGHA.1624@extapps30...[color=darkred]
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> regarding the test CON-01 "the application can be closed through the task
>>> list".
>>>
>>> I have a series 60 application. The symbian signed web site states Use
>>> native Task List of Series 60 by holding down the menu key. This brings
>>> up all the running tasks in the top left hand corner of the screen.
>>>
>>> the symbian signed test criteria then says "close application from task
>>> list".
>>>
>>> I can see how i would task to my application using the task list and then
>>> close it from the menu that i have implemented in my application.
>>> However i can�t see an option to close my application FROM the task list.
>>>
>>> What have i missed with this?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> PL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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>
>
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