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Who Needs 3G??

7 replies · 1,469 views · Started 25 November 2002

Here's why.
We all know we have fairly good voice and data capabilities on our 7650's( which includes fairly decent Gsm and GPRS protocols for internet among other things)

Then, there were many things which were otherwise ordained impossible (atleast..almost) on a 7650 ( Even by Nokia ) but were surprised by many ingenuities.
Most notable being 7650 a "Client" to share pc internet connection.
Many doubts were expressed as to the 7650 being able to capture Video (Hardware limitations Et al).
We now have the FTPs on our phones.
And Bemused
We have Streaming Media.
And we have Answering Machines, File compression Applications!

Most of these programmes cleverly exploit the hardware and available resources on the phone, with results that range from pleasant to even (almost) astonishing!!
Now, how difficult would it be to amalgamate some of features/ablities of different applications into one that would... say.. give us the ability to stream video realtime?
Remember, we already have Hantro/PV and IM+/Tipic ME and GPRS and FTP. I know it would be some serious coding more, on a Pro basis. But is it impossible?
What else is 3G?? Higher data speeds did i hear?? That can wait. Atleast till GPRS costs settle on a more saner level!!

PS: Memory limtations to be overlooked! :2gunfire:

That precicely is the question. WHY do we need 3G? We have the supporting resources available already. We have a fairly competent phone, and GPRS which should handle all kinds of data (never mind the speed. its almost as good as a 56K Modem anyway)

PS: Had forgotten to include the Personal Java Webcam application that's already in circulation.( I'm yet to try it though)

well.....my proposal is this.

If we can integrate the mobile phone network with the Wireless LAN network then we dont really need 3G. Imagine it like this.....In the US, WLAN has been widely deployed. Instead of deploying the 3G which costs .....i dunno......heaps i can say.....we better deploy the WLAN everywhere.

Being a telecommunication engineer, i strongly believe that this is possible. Some companies even had produce prototypes WLAN chips that can be used in mobile phones.

[quote="Pichu"]cos that's the way it will be
😃 😃 😃 😃

4G is coming too[/quote]

Pichu... my reply to that post now looks out of place after u edited ur post!! 😃 😃 :black: :robot: 😃 😃

[quote="cgo"]well.....my proposal is this.

If we can integrate the mobile phone network with the Wireless LAN network then we dont really need 3G. Imagine it like this.....In the US, WLAN has been widely deployed. Instead of deploying the 3G which costs .....i dunno......heaps i can say.....we better deploy the WLAN everywhere.

Being a telecommunication engineer, i strongly believe that this is possible. Some companies even had produce prototypes WLAN chips that can be used in mobile phones.[/quote]

Certainly cgo... There have bene many other easier, cheaper alternates ( Wlan Being one of them). I had also read of another such nascent service for inexpensive Wireless Broadband, in Auckland, NZ. Even the Telecompanies accept that the costs are too much for a changeover to 3G.

But my opinion is... with the present infrastructure available, device capabilities and an integration of these two we already have 80% of 3G Promises.
To a layman (the majority who's going to be using 3G most), this tranlates to Mobile Video Communication, which essentially means a culmination of Internet, Hardware(Device), Network Capabilities. With the exception of speed, we do seem to have them already.

it can be said like that.......

but i think for real video streaming apps, it is still insufficient. I heard that Bell Labs just tested a chip that can give 19 Mbps speed to mobile phones. Now this sort of speed should be sufficient for multimedia application.

Another thing that 3G is trynig to achieve is interoperability. Although seen from current devices you can argue that we already have 80% of the system, but the fact is that in order to improve the capacity and speed of the mobile comm. network, we need a chane in the physical layer. What i mean is the sort like the modulation scheme. GSM and GPRS uses GMSK and 8-PSK modulation. We can achieve higher data rate using different modulation technique and this is only possible if the hardware supports it.

[quote="cgo"]it can be said like that.......

but i think for real video streaming apps, it is still insufficient. I heard that Bell Labs just tested a chip that can give 19 Mbps speed to mobile phones. Now this sort of speed should be sufficient for multimedia application.

Another thing that 3G is trynig to achieve is interoperability. Although seen from current devices you can argue that we already have 80% of the system, but the fact is that in order to improve the capacity and speed of the mobile comm. network, we need a chane in the physical layer. What i mean is the sort like the modulation scheme. GSM and GPRS uses GMSK and 8-PSK modulation. We can achieve higher data rate using different modulation technique and this is only possible if the hardware supports it.[/quote]

I agree, current hardware just doesn't support fast enough data transmission.

I think 3G can be classed as in a "safe" level, but it will also differ from Phone to phone the amound needed, unless a standard is found. (Different FPS, Resolutions of screen etc..)

On current networks, I suppose it is possible to a certain extent, but not usable as it would need to be "real time" and the 7650 on todays networks would have a large buffer gap (Not good when your trying to have a conversation with someone 😃 )