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I am currently doing the charge/discharge cycle to try and imporve my battery on the N80. If this doesn't work and i am still stuck with a N80 that lasts for 15-18hrs then what do you think i should do?

Contact Orange and....

1. Ask for a replacement then start again and install everything again and do the battery cycle again?

2. Ask for a Sony Ericsson K800i instead?

3. Ask for a different phone (recommendations welcome)?

4. Sell it on EBay, pocket £200 odd and stick with my 6680 for another 18months?

5. Just stick with it and have to charge every night?

I just dont know, i like the N80 i think its great but reading these forums makes you notice more faults with your phone than you did previously. Plus the battery life is absolutely sh*t. I think if the bat lasted around 2-3 days with normal use, nothing heavy then i'd keep the N80.

burnsyboy wrote:I am currently doing the charge/discharge cycle to try and imporve my battery on the N80. If this doesn't work and i am still stuck with a N80 that lasts for 15-18hrs then what do you think i should do?

Contact Orange and....

1. Ask for a replacement then start again and install everything again and do the battery cycle again?

2. Ask for a Sony Ericsson K800i instead?

3. Ask for a different phone (recommendations welcome)?

4. Sell it on EBay, pocket �200 odd and stick with my 6680 for another 18months?

5. Just stick with it and have to charge every night?

I just dont know, i like the N80 i think its great but reading these forums makes you notice more faults with your phone than you did previously. Plus the battery life is absolutely sh*t. I think if the bat lasted around 2-3 days with normal use, nothing heavy then i'd keep the N80.

I am happy with everything on the phone except the camera and especially the battery life, if the battery life can be improved with a new firmware, or a good quality high capacity battery then I will keep, but if this is not rectified then its good bye N80, not sure what to get yet.

burnsyboy wrote:I am currently doing the charge/discharge cycle to try and imporve my battery on the N80. If this doesn't work and i am still stuck with a N80 that lasts for 15-18hrs then what do you think i should do?

Contact Orange and....

1. Ask for a replacement then start again and install everything again and do the battery cycle again?

2. Ask for a Sony Ericsson K800i instead?

3. Ask for a different phone (recommendations welcome)?

4. Sell it on EBay, pocket �200 odd and stick with my 6680 for another 18months?

5. Just stick with it and have to charge every night?

If battery life is your only problem, i would ask for a replacement and hope for it to be better. Also, it might be worth waiting a little while for a firmware update to come out. This might solve the problem.

The SE K800i surely looks like a nice wee phone but it's not a smartphone so you won't be able to install all those cools apps that exist for smartphones only. There are not that many apps for S60 v3 right now but you can be sure that many more will ship in the next few months. So it really depends on what kind of user you are.

If you really can't live with the battery as it is, i would sell the phone on eBay and wait for the N73. It doesn't look as cool as the N80 but looks like a much better phone (although we'll have to wait to see if it suffers from the same battery problems).

HI

I have the N80 and my wife has the k800i and if you are wanting a cracking camera phone the i would say the K800i is it...The photos that thing takes is out of this world...But like elp says its not smart..

I like the N80 but like I say the K800i camera if fantastic.

Gary

I am kind of giving up on the whole smartphone thing, My last one, a sendo X was a complete let down and a joke, luckily I managed to get my money back, and although the N80 is a cracking phone, the battery severly makes it not much better than a phone with a few extra gadgets that you can use now and then as long as you have a charger in easy reach.

If the battery issue is sorted then I will keep for sure because i think the N80 has potential, other wise a good phone/camera will do me fine as at the moment when I go out I still have to take out 2 devices with me, the N80 and my camera.

The only reason why I chose the N80 instead of the K800i was WLAN. But the poor camera and poor battery life are giving me second thoughts. My other phone (k750i) takes much better pictures (specially at night)
Regds

Winfield wrote:The only reason why I chose the N80 instead of the K800i was WLAN. But the poor camera and poor battery life are giving me second thoughts. My other phone (k750i) takes much better pictures (specially at night)
Regds

exactly why i chose the N80

hmmm, well im trying the battery cycle and it looks like it might be improving but not certian yet. of the battery still doesnt improve im gonna ring Orange and demand a K800i.

But aaarrggghhhhhh im still not sure, i dont want to give up my n80, i might wait for the new firmware or get a new battery.... i just dont know what to do. But whatever it is Orange better F**cking sort it out, i ain't paying for anything.

You'll never get much more battery life out of a N80 no matter how you condition the battery, especially if you use WiFi etc

Personally I don't see what the problem is, just charge while you sleep.

It's not like you have to charge for hours either, these days you can charge from flat to full in 2 hours, people will tell you charge for 16 hours etc, thats utter rubbish, Nokia Li-Ion batteries do not trickle charge.

If you really worried do what I did and buy a spare battery, I bought a genuine Nokia N80 battery for �5 on ebay and a desktop battery charger (with another non genuine battery) for �3, again on ebay. So now I have a fully charged spare for emergencies.

As more and more features are crammed in to phones, battery life is going to suffer, but if you think the N80 is bad just try using WiFi on a pocket pc, your lucky to get 3 hours out of it.

Ratkat wrote:You'll never get much more battery life out of a N80 no matter how you condition the battery, especially if you use WiFi etc

Personally I don't see what the problem is, just charge while you sleep.

It's not like you have to charge for hours either, these days you can charge from flat to full in 2 hours, people will tell you charge for 16 hours etc, thats utter rubbish, Nokia Li-Ion batteries do not trickle charge.

If you really worried do what I did and buy a spare battery, I bought a genuine Nokia N80 battery for �5 on ebay and a desktop battery charger (with another non genuine battery) for �3, again on ebay. So now I have a fully charged spare for emergencies.

As more and more features are crammed in to phones, battery life is going to suffer, but if you think the N80 is bad just try using WiFi on a pocket pc, your lucky to get 3 hours out of it.

I hear what you are saying Ratkit, but I have been out on several occasions and the phone has died and I had no way to recharge untill I got home, espacially as non of the old nokia chargers that my friends have will charge the phone.

With battery technology these days this phone should have been released with a higher capacity battery, there is no excuse for releasing it with an under capacity battery that is not fit for the job.

I hear what you are saying about the spare battery, but I for one dont want to carry another battery around with me for the rest of the time I own this phone, the days of doing that are long gone.

The 'E' Series have higher capacity batteries, but are larger.

Its a trade off, the more features a phone has the more battery power it needs, add the consumers desire for small(ish) phones and something is going to suffer, in this case battery size.

I can get 2 days out of my N80 from full charge with medium use, unless I spend a few hours surfing the net using WiFi, in which case it drops to 1 - 1.5 days.

It is also more noticeable how long the battery lasts when you get a new phone - you tend to play with it more, the first couple of days I had mine I was charging twice a day just because I couldn't put it down., and to be honest I thought about getting rid of it myself (and getting an E71)because of the bugs it was suffering from.
After I upgraded the firmware it has become one of the most stable Nokia series 60 phones I have owned and there is nothing I would swop it for at the moment.

Ratkat wrote:The 'E' Series have higher capacity batteries, but are larger.

Its a trade off, the more features a phone has the more battery power it needs, add the consumers desire for small(ish) phones and something is going to suffer, in this case battery size.

I can get 2 days out of my N80 from full charge with medium use, unless I spend a few hours surfing the net using WiFi, in which case it drops to 1 - 1.5 days.

It is also more noticeable how long the battery lasts when you get a new phone - you tend to play with it more, the first couple of days I had mine I was charging twice a day just because I couldn't put it down., and to be honest I thought about getting rid of it myself (and getting an E71)because of the bugs it was suffering from.
After I upgraded the firmware it has become one of the most stable Nokia series 60 phones I have owned and there is nothing I would swop it for at the moment.

agreed, although i do think that knowing that the phone would have problems they should have supplied it as a second heavy duty battery, or made it an option to use a heavy duty battery much like with the old 7110, that way the user can decide which battery to use, a slimline battery for normal use, or a larger heavy duty battery for more intense use.

Now after setting the phone to sleep mode its been switched on for 37 hours after the last charge and I am still showing full battery strength after just sending text and making phone calls, I will do another test after the battery has gone flat with also using some of the smart features.

So at the moment I am a little happier knowing that I can at least use the phone as just a phone without the battery going flat too soon and as long as I dont use the smart features. It defeats the object of the phone, but I hope there will be some way to fix this in the future.

well, i use wifi, GPRS to stay on MSN (this is very important for me because i need to stay in touch with my providers) and do like 5 calls and 5 text per day, i got an extra BL-5B original on my wallet, i charge my N80 and the second batt every night, sometimes i dont need to use my second batt, my batt life its pretty good (i say "pretty good" because i use Agile Messenger, Web browser for my Email and post here, PDF reader to open some files, handy zip, handy safe, and qucikoffice, it makes my job and life easier, and belive me 4 hours its a lot more than common laptops or PDAs, notice that u cant have a lap in ur pocket :b, also an extra laptop batt its really big to do the job) i got latest firmware and im pretty happy with my N80.

Nokia really needs to sort out their battery technology. The battery in my K750i lasts 3-4 days with heavy usage and it is the same size as the Nokia battery. Nokia should be able to produce a battery with better life.

Woollie wrote:Nokia really needs to sort out their battery technology. The battery in my K750i lasts 3-4 days with heavy usage and it is the same size as the Nokia battery. Nokia should be able to produce a battery with better life.

THe K750i is not a smartphone, nor even a 3G phone, you can't compare them.

I can compare them as I have both. I rarely use 3G if ever, and I use the N80 primarily as a phone. If I use the N80 and the K750i the same amount (just call and texts), the same size battery in the K750i lasts at least four times longer than the N80.

No two ways about it, the N80 battery is not at the level it needs to be to support a phone, let alone a smartphone.

I had a Sony W810 before getting the N80. There is no comparison, the Sony phones look good but have zero functionality in comparison to the N80 and the menu system is like navigating around the M25. So they take better pics? Well, they had to be better at something I suppose by the law of averages