where is the t9 on the e 61?

steed wrote:i cant finde it help ...:con? 😮 :con?

Err... Haven't you found the keyboard on your E61?

elp wrote:Err... Haven't you found the keyboard on your E61?

😊 Sure... But on specifications sheet, E61 have T9!

That's absurd. Have you got the wrong spec sheet? Why would the E61 have this? It couldn't be used! And even if it could be (from the number keys), why would you use it? I think you may have got confused, my friend. From your post in the S80 forum, I guess you may have been looking at the 9300i spec sheet which does indeed support T9.

Tim

timsalmon wrote:That's absurd. Have you got the wrong spec sheet? Why would the E61 have this? It couldn't be used! And even if it could be (from the number keys), why would you use it? I think you may have got confused, my friend. From your post in the S80 forum, I guess you may have been looking at the 9300i spec sheet which does indeed support T9.

Tim

1. I see here: http://www.gsmarena.com/ - Nokia - E61 - Specifications - is inexact, I don´t now;
2. 9300i have, in S40 face, not inside, in S80;

But, who wants to have the time to read, it reads the following review, and it can be that it clarifies the subject : http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/item/Nokia_E611.php

Your first link doesn't seem to go anywhere but the text in the AAS review says... "but it’s still streets ahead of using T9 on just a number pad". That is *a* number pad, not *it's* number pad.

Tim

timsalmon wrote:Your first link doesn't seem to go anywhere but the text in the AAS review says... "but it�s still streets ahead of using T9 on just a number pad". That is *a* number pad, not *it's* number pad.

Tim

Specifications of E61 in gsmarena, said yes!
AAS review, I don�t read, but You read and said No.

If I remenber, next time in a shop, I try myself, and stay with a sure statement. Is always the best way!

A great many ads seem to suggest Predictive Text is included on the E61. I know it has a keyboard but when one is writing an email that extra little bit of help can be useful to prevent blackberry-thumb creaping in.

The manual suggests an IM client should be on the phone, but it isn't either and none of the links match up with that written down on the page.

There is a great deal of confusion regarding what should be where and included with this phone.

'3' suggest one should get a stereo headset, but that isn't what's in the sealed boxes.

In all the lack of predictive text is a great pity. Lots of lost opportunities with this phone. Made quite a small list myself after one week.

As predictive text doesn't seem to be present, anyone know of a suitable app that can be installed to provide it?

marky

markrich wrote:The manual suggests an IM client should be on the phone, but it isn't either and none of the links match up with that written down on the page.

:hahaha: I can't believe this topic exists... The qwerty keyboard on the E61 means no predictive text is necessary. At least the same amount of keystrokes are required for entry text on a numeric keypad with T9, if not more (as well as a bit of stuffing about every now and then...). The difference with the E61 is that you can go directly to the key that you want to enter, rather than having to go to a key that represents two or three different letters. Can you imagine predictive text with a full keyboard? It would mean that you hit a key and then it might guess that you wanted some other character than the one you hit? :con?

You're failing to appreciate the benefits when typing many email each day on a tiny keyboard with unnatural hand positions. The opportunity to speed up writing on a phone like this avoids the damage to the tendons and nerves seen on frequent Blackberry users.

Okay, the E61 would have no use for T9 per se. But lots of smartphones with QWERTY keyboards have some form of predictive text input. Mostly it's some form of word completion (based on the letters of the word currently being entered).

For example, if you enter 'descr' into the T-Mobile MDA Vario/HTC Wizard (and probably other WinMo smartphones), it might give you the option to auto-complete to 'describe'.

Yes, you do have a QWERTY keyboard and so you can go directly to the letters you need - but it's quite handy when the phone guesses correctly - you can just accept the sugggestion, saving lots of key presses.

It would be a handy feature in the E61.

BigRedBall wrote:Okay, the E61 would have no use for T9 per se. But lots of smartphones with QWERTY keyboards have some form of predictive text input. Mostly it's some form of word completion (based on the letters of the word currently being entered).

For example, if you enter 'descr' into the T-Mobile MDA Vario/HTC Wizard (and probably other WinMo smartphones), it might give you the option to auto-complete to 'describe'.

Yes, you do have a QWERTY keyboard and so you can go directly to the letters you need - but it's quite handy when the phone guesses correctly - you can just accept the sugggestion, saving lots of key presses.

It would be a handy feature in the E61.

I agree with that. A qwerty keyboard with T9, could improve the things. Between a 9500 (qwerty) and N70 with T9, I write faster with N70. Maybe is just me, but I prefer a T9 then a qwerty keyboard. In my life I don�t need to often write long text, so, for my needs I prefer a T9 than a qwerty. Before some said I�m wrong, I said always, I ... I!

Maybe there's a third party product which will do word completion for us? I would certainly buy it! ( after 30 days trial of course 😉 )

nj7 wrote:Specifications of E61 in gsmarena, said yes!
AAS review, I don�t read, but You read and said No.

If I remenber, next time in a shop, I try myself, and stay with a sure statement. Is always the best way!

Well, like promised, today I had for the time I wanted, an E61 in hand (in a shop).
Moan, but does not have T9.
I search, and search for a dictionary, but, is not present.
Thats it!

Hi nj7!

nj7 wrote:Specifications of E61 in gsmarena, said yes![]

The only way to know for sure would be to check on Nokia's website, and see the specs of the E61, which don't mention T9.

I can certainly see the point of having T9 in addition to the full keyboard, although I for one wouldn't have any use of it. But you're right, it would have been nice for some users...

As for the IM client, I know that the French (unbranded) version of the E61 has it, though other locale may not, it seems...

Yes I agree that "word completion" would be a good feature. But I don't think that this is like T9 or "Letterwise". If you look at wikipedia for T9 you will find it is all about entering as many keystrokes as there are letters in the word you are inputting. What we are after is something like Itap:

(quote also from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITap )

"One of the main differences between iTap and T9 is that iTap is able to complete words, phrases or even full sentences. T9 is unable to guess a word until the user has typed out a number of letters equal to the full word length. iTap will guess the best match based upon a built in dictionary, including words sharing the typed prefix. This dictionary also contains phrases and commonly used sentences. This way the predictive guesses iTap offers are enhanced based upon context of the word that is being typed.

Even though this feature appears to be extremely useful, iTap is considered harder to learn than T9 due to this extra guesswork. Additionally, it may be required to scroll through several more words than you would have with T9 because iTap will attempt to complete the word. Example: car and card."