Ok. We all know that our memory for 7650 is limited. Aside from that, there's no room for expansion within the 7650. :evil:
The question is, coul we make use of the SIM Memory for our applications? Our SIM currently have applications installed in it anyway. Mine has GlobeExplore (never used). So, what's the limit of a Sim card anyway? Do you think that there will come a time that there's a 4MB SIM?
I know that currently we have 64K SIM. So, is it possible to make use of SIM memory? :roll:
What i know of that SIM is only carry our ISP account and some security in it.
The space of 16k could be use for contacts stored in the card.
Perhaps in near future.. perhaps.. 😮
i wonder how much one sim card will be 😃 😃 😃 😃
Additional Memory on SIM. Hm... That's the most Plausible, Applausible, and possible suggestion for memory expansion on 7650 so far. However, i think that really would entail some radical changes in both phone and sim architecture.
The link between the main phone ram and the sim card is very slow. Have you every copied a sim full of contacts to the main phone memory? It can take a while and it's only sending around 16-64K of text. having a sim card that has a few meg of space of it is possible, but using that memory over the slow serial link would just not work.
It may be possible to modify the hardware of the phone though.... should be just a case of locate the ram chips, remove them and replace with bigger capacity ones and hack the rom to 'see' the new memory if necessary.
Ok, so that's not so easy!
Does anyone know what the addressing capability of the processor in the 7650 is? Can it cope with a larger amount of ram?
There does excists a HDD wich runs on bluetooth but it's realy expensive !
but then you do have 20 gigabyte ! 😃 Is that enough ? That's a lot of MP3 files ! 😮
[quote="robbus"]There does excists a HDD wich runs on bluetooth but it's realy expensive !
but then you do have 20 gigabyte ! 😃 Is that enough ? That's a lot of MP3 files ! 😮[/quote]
No proof that the toshbia HD would work with the 7650 due to lack of drivers and the fact that the 7650 wouldn't see it as another drive, but as a BT device (Like another phone).
Could work but hardly worth thee $400 they're asking for it.
i think the best idea for more memory is a bluetooth enabled memory card
if noone has thought of marketing one, they should!!!!! imagine, it would let any digital camera be bluetooth enabled!
im gonna mail some manufacturers and tell them to make one!
Having a BT memory card would make you use up your battery. I bet it would not last 4 hours.
Ok. So maybe the word memory is a bit abused here. So let's separate the memory from the storage. Maybe, we could use the SIM as your storage device, and memory as memory 😃.
Say for instance, the space double compresses your application into the SIM. This frees up the memory space of the phone. When your going to use your application, you will uncompress from the SIM and load the application into the memory.
Are we getting somewhere? I hope so. I don't think there would be a space quadrupler... 😃
Unfortunately communication between SIM and phone is VERY slow! Moreover, the SIM's capacity is very low too!
I guess it is. Its like running a program from a floppy disk drive.
Is there a rate for this slow communication? Say for a modem its 33.6K? How about with the SIM and PHONE?
CONCLUSION:
All of us will buy a new phone in the near future. 😃
The limited capacity of present SIMs is more due a lack of neccessity (thus far) than technical limitations or cost. It should'nt be too difficult to make higher capacity SIMs even in the standard "mold". As regards the transfer rates, any non performing data ( Those other than application files like Contacts, calenders, notes, log, messaging, images, sound and other files) may all be transferred over to sim. That should leave plenty of room for applications on the main drives.
This infact seems more acheivable and practical solution for present day space limitations of standard phone architechture, without major hardware upgrade. Li'l software for SIM data transport should'nt be an issue.
😊
Time to e-mail those creators of the space doubler or scompress. Hopefully someone may take this seriously and put into reality.
Maybe the previous analogy to a floppy disk is wrong. I guess it should have been a tape drive. 😃
Is there a developer company that entertains ideas?
LOL
yeah we should buy a new phone later on maybe my 7650 will last about 1 year or 1.5
:angel: :angel: :angel:
[quote="Anonymous"]Having a BT memory card would make you use up your battery. I bet it would not last 4 hours.
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?!?!?!?
im talking about a memory card with its own battery to bluetooth enable it.
how on earth could that use up the phones battery?
no memory card manufacturers have mailed me back yet \
as for the sim idea..........the transfer rate between sim and phone is woeful. I remember when i used to store numbers on the sim as opposed to the phone, when i would switch on the phone it would take a minute or so to read my contacts
CONCLUSION as said elsewhere, we will all have new phones in a years time when our contracts run out. When that happens, and i own this phone, i will scrub everything off of it and have it as a hand help commodore 64 while i use my new nokia with 64mb ram incorporated into it
How about this for a far out idea. Use an handheld MP3 player (or in my case my MP3 watch - 32mb ram). Convert applications to analogue as in the glorious c64 days. play the mp3 of that analogue signal from you player thourgh the headphone socket into the handsfree kit microphone socket on the top. Then you would wait a few minutes or so for the game to load.
Im sorry, you guys all lose, thats the best f**king idea ive seen in years!
Can anyone say for certain that a bluetooth harddrive will work?
I am extremely interested in buying a BT HD, but I would like to know if it works first.
The thing about the battery is that your 7650 will be comsuming its battery as well. Since its going to be transmitting through BT. SO, even if you have your own battery for your BTHD, STILL, you'd consume your 7650 battery.
Hell, even a notebook would only last for sometime. It even has its own BIG battery. Consider your 7650 tiny battery.
i think our memory is expandable...look at the photo!!!!!!!
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*sniff* *sniff*
i smell bullshit
prove me wrong
please
i believe that is memory for running applications and not "storage memory" for your application. The phone has about 8.3Mb menory according to Memory Monitor, but about 5-6Mb is used by running applications, like the symbian os, the different server tasks for the phone and messaging capabilities and such. This is memory that will be cleared when turning off the phone, just like the RAM on your computer.
- Kristian -
how'd you get that picture on your phone ? can't seem to do so with my SeleQ!
ABC and the Menu Key together 😃
ok
i did the same and got the same picture
it says...free - 2.707mb (total 4.191mb)
Now if i co to c and do properties, it says i have 714 k left
d (which i believe is a temp drive) has 451 k left
z none
so even if it counts the d drive, 1165kb free......big difference
now if i go into the memory part of tools>manager, it tells me i have 798 kb left
now........if i go into sDoubler, and into the about section it tells me i have 2776 kb left
camera says it has space for 18 pictures, 1 picture is, onaverage say 20Kb with current settings. 18 * 20 Kb = 360 Kb
anyone else know what the feck is going on here?
hmmmmmmmm
ah, it's not difficult to understand:
- One "free mem" value is the free memory for running software. Compare this with the RAM of any normal computer. The contents in this memory disappears when you turn off the phone. This is 8.3Mb and even if you could make a program mount parts of this as another drive the contents would still be erased when rebooting the phone. On my phone i have about 3.1Mb free after boot (ref Memory Monitor).
- The other "free mem" is the storage memory for applications, messages and pictures. This memory is backed up by battery and therefore it survives turning off the phone. Compare this to the floppy drive of your computer. This is 4.3Mb
- In addition there's the ROM where the system files and default applications like calculater and such is located. This memory is read only and can't be written to at all. Compare this with the harddrive of your computer where Windows is installed. This is 15.7Mb. When you go to a service centre to upgrade the firmware then this is the memory that gets overwritten (special software and kable needed).
- Kristian -
- In addition there's the ROM where the system files and default applications like calculater and such is located. This memory is read only and can't be written to at all. Compare this with the harddrive of your computer where Windows is installed
I would compare that to the BIOS of a computer.
- The other "free mem" is the storage memory for applications, messages and pictures. This memory is backed up by battery and therefore it survives turning off the phone. Compare this to the floppy drive of your computer.
I would compare this to the hard-drive!
ok, the bios then, but a very very large bios 😊 Remember the bios on the computer contains no operative system and applications. It's only there to tell the computer how it can access the harddrive and such 😊
oh, and i ment to compare the different memory with something that people can compare themselves with.. and not to compare the chips in the phone to the chips in a computer 😊
Yeah I guess it a combination of the two! Its an EPROM (like the bios) and an OS (Like the one in the HD) 😃
hehe, then we agree 😊
[quote="😊"]how'd you get that picture on your phone ? can't seem to do so with my SeleQ![/quote]
huh!? you've the SeleQ!!!??? nice to hear that smiley! last time i heard you still dont have it. 8)