m600i battery problems?

andd the worest part is that i hardly use it to make calls--only for recieving calls i get at least two days, which i find strange.

Ya me too , I noticed my battary with avarage calls gives me around 1 day and half too, :frown:

I just bought the M600i 3 weeks ago, very disappointed with its battery life.
It would not last more than 2 days on average use.
My friends recommended that to set the screen brightness to 50%. This will help a bit, due to its big touch screen, this is a common problem.

If you've only just got the phone, it's way too soon to judge the battery life - it'll improve greatly in the first month or two of ownership, provided you treat it well. Mine's six months old now and typically gives me 4-5 days on a single charge, and that's with moderate use of the internet, music player, a few phone calls etc. It helps if you stick to the mains charger for charging (USB charging never seems to work very well for me) and try not to "top up" - let it run flat before you plug it back in, if possible.

None of this is unique to the M600 - most mobile batteries are the same. Rubbish in the first few weeks, but treat them well and they get a lot a better over time.

boinng wrote:If you've only just got the phone, it's way too soon to judge the battery life - it'll improve greatly in the first month or two of ownership, provided you treat it well. Mine's six months old now and typically gives me 4-5 days on a single charge, and that's with moderate use of the internet, music player, a few phone calls etc. It helps if you stick to the mains charger for charging (USB charging never seems to work very well for me) and try not to "top up" - let it run flat before you plug it back in, if possible.

None of this is unique to the M600 - most mobile batteries are the same. Rubbish in the first few weeks, but treat them well and they get a lot a better over time.

Do you leave your 3G connected all the time, boinng? What about bluetooth - always on? Just interested, as I've got the same problem - even with careful battery use I'm lucky to get 48 hours, and with any kind of intense usage (e.g. surfing, playing music or gaming) then I can almost see the battery charge dropping!
I'll be interested to see if that does improve as I have the phone longer...
StuPC

The 3G/2G is on its usual automatic setting, I have 3G coverage all day at work but not at home... Bluetooth admittedly isn't something I use a lot of - I don't have a BT headset or anything, so I don't leave it on - but then I've always found it to be a battery drain on all my previous phones, it's just the price you pay I'm afraid 😉

Tip of the day: If you do not use/have need for the 3G dataconnection speed (e.g. mainly using phone for conversations and some wap-browsing) you should switch of 3G (use setting "GSM only"😉. The 3G network heavily drains the battery, especially if you're a lot "on the move" and/or in a area with poor coverage.
I've switched it of on my W950 and it's stand by time improved by est. of 50-70%. In addition, having conversations over the 3G network drains battery more than when on 2G.
Worried about speed when browsing? => For most mobile/wap-sites the GPRS speed is quite enough and you will perhaps notice a change but it's in my opinion minor. If you're browsing alot of "ordinary" web-sites the change in speed of course is quite noticeable.

Regarding bluetooth impact on battery: I've been using the HBH-DS970 headset a lot and it does not seem to have any major impact on battery life (..you should of course have the "power save" setting enabled). BUT, I have also tested bt headseths from other vendors and they tend to have a noticeable impact on battery.
Conclusion?: It seems to me as if the SE headset's (at least the HBH-DS970) are more "optimized" for use with SE phones then other brands and maybe vice versa. I've tested the same headset on Nokia N95 and it defintely had an impact on battery (both on headset and phone). But then of course the N95 does not have the selectable "power save" setting.

superswede wrote:Tip of the day: If you do not use/have need for the 3G dataconnection speed (e.g. mainly using phone for conversations and some wap-browsing) you should switch of 3G (use setting "GSM only"😉. The 3G network heavily drains the battery, especially if you're a lot "on the move" and/or in a area with poor coverage.

Alternatively, you can set the 3G to disconnect after 2, 5, 10 or 20 minutes - the default is "Always Connected"

Go to Control Panel>Connections>Internet Accounts, then highlight (don't click on!) your internet account, click More at the bottom right and select Options from the pop-up menu. There's a pulldown menu for Dial-up timeout - I have mine set to 10 minutes. 😊

StuPC wrote:Alternatively, you can set the 3G to disconnect after 2, 5, 10 or 20 minutes - the default is "Always Connected"

Go to Control Panel>Connections>Internet Accounts, then highlight (don't click on!) your internet account, click More at the bottom right and select Options from the pop-up menu. There's a pulldown menu for Dial-up timeout - I have mine set to 10 minutes. 😊

StuPC, that's not the same. The 3G will still be there, listening for incoming MMS and the like. You can see it as a funny little icon with circles next to the signal strength meter at the top of the display. That's different to being connected to the net which shows a small icon of a planet.

By setting it your phone to "GSM Only", as a previous poster described, you can disable that, and it does make a huge difference to battery life. (Dunno what would happen if you got an inbound MMS though, presumably it would download over GPRS or something like that... noone sends me MMSs and that's how I like it ;P).

Doh! Silly me!
Thanks, bonhomme - that does explain why the 3G symbol is still there all the time on my phone!

Is there any point to having my 3G disconnect after 10 minutes, then? I don't pay for data down- or uploaded, just a set tariff, so should I disable the auto-disconnect?

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superswede wrote:Tip of the day: If you do not use/have need for the 3G dataconnection speed (e.g. mainly using phone for conversations and some wap-browsing) you should switch of 3G (use setting "GSM only"😉. The 3G network heavily drains the battery, especially if you're a lot "on the move" and/or in a area with poor coverage.
I've switched it of on my W950 and it's stand by time improved by est. of 50-70%. In addition, having conversations over the 3G network drains battery more than when on 2G.
Worried about speed when browsing? => For most mobile/wap-sites the GPRS speed is quite enough and you will perhaps notice a change but it's in my opinion minor. If you're browsing alot of "ordinary" web-sites the change in speed of course is quite noticeable.

Regarding bluetooth impact on battery: I've been using the HBH-DS970 headset a lot and it does not seem to have any major impact on battery life (..you should of course have the "power save" setting enabled). BUT, I have also tested bt headseths from other vendors and they tend to have a noticeable impact on battery.
Conclusion?: It seems to me as if the SE headset's (at least the HBH-DS970) are more "optimized" for use with SE phones then other brands and maybe vice versa. I've tested the same headset on Nokia N95 and it defintely had an impact on battery (both on headset and phone). But then of course the N95 does not have the selectable "power save" setting.

How did you switch it off.?
Do you kw how to get to the hidden service menu?

ChaosFire wrote:Wirelessly posted (Nokia E70: Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/3.0.6560/1662; en; U; ssr))

How did you switch it off.?
Do you kw how to get to the hidden service menu?

I haven't got access to my phone right now and I'm not sure where the settings are. I believe it's when you're in the menu where you specify you're mobile network settings (Tools > Control panel > Connections > Mobile networks). When there you should select "More" > "GSM/3G Networks" (?) > "GSM Only".

You can access the hidden service menu (when on std-by screen) by "typing":
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jog dial up
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jog dial down
jog dial down
*
jog dial down
*

StuPC wrote:Doh! Silly me!
Is there any point to having my 3G disconnect after 10 minutes, then? I don't pay for data down- or uploaded, just a set tariff, so should I disable the auto-disconnect?

I would say absolutely no point unless you're paying per minute for your 3G (cf. Vodafone Australia).

Having said that I would say with more emphasis that there's no point having 3G enabled at all unless you're actually using it for something that requires fast speeds. If you're going to get on the net and read an email, I wouldn't bother - just leave it off and use GPRS. If you're going to browse Google Maps, then go in the settings and turn it back on (takes a few seconds), browse the maps, and turn it back off.

Since the M600i doesn't have HSDPA anyway, tbh the 3G isn't spectacularly fast either, so I wouldn't worry too much as the distinction is mostly theoretical. The difference in battery life however is very practical - my standby battery life went from 2-3 days to 5-6 days by turning off 3G.

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superswede wrote:

ChaosFire wrote:Wirelessly posted (Nokia E70: Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/3.0.6560/1662; en; U; ssr))

How did you switch it off.?
Do you kw how to get to the hidden service menu?

I haven't got access to my phone right now and I'm not sure where the settings are. I believe it's when you're in the menu where you specify you're mobile network settings (Tools > Control panel > Connections > Mobile networks). When there you should select "More" > "GSM/3G Networks" (?) > "GSM Only".

You can access the hidden service menu (when on std-by screen) by "typing":
*
jog dial up
*
jog dial down
jog dial down
*
jog dial down
*

Nope! No such setting here,..when i click more it shows only 'select network','New search' ,and 'Help' then on the other tab under 'more' there is only 'add network','delete network' ,and 'help'
Any other place you can think of to check?

ChaosFire wrote:Wirelessly posted (Nokia E70: Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/3.0.6560/1662; en; U; ssr))

Nope! No such setting here,..when i click more it shows only 'select network','New search' ,and 'Help' then on the other tab under 'more' there is only 'add network','delete network' ,and 'help'
Any other place you can think of to check?

I'll check tomorrow, be patient... 😉

I have now verified the path to the option/setting. It is the one I stated above: Tools > Control panel > Connections > Mobile networks. Select 'More' and then 'GSM/3G Networks'.

If the option ain't there on your device I guess you have a branded one (with a customized firmware).

bonhomme wrote:I would say absolutely no point unless you're paying per minute for your 3G (cf. Vodafone Australia).

Having said that I would say with more emphasis that there's no point having 3G enabled at all unless you're actually using it for something that requires fast speeds. If you're going to get on the net and read an email, I wouldn't bother - just leave it off and use GPRS. If you're going to browse Google Maps, then go in the settings and turn it back on (takes a few seconds), browse the maps, and turn it back off.

Since the M600i doesn't have HSDPA anyway, tbh the 3G isn't spectacularly fast either, so I wouldn't worry too much as the distinction is mostly theoretical. The difference in battery life however is very practical - my standby battery life went from 2-3 days to 5-6 days by turning off 3G.

Thanks again, bonhomme.
And, yes, 3G isn't nearly as fast as I'd expected it would be. If I'd known this I'd probably not have bothered with a 3G phone, to be honest.
Does HSDPA make a big difference to speeds? And on a slightly different topic, does EDGE bring non-3G phones to anywhere near 3G speeds? Just curious... 😊

StuPC wrote:Thanks again, bonhomme.
And, yes, 3G isn't nearly as fast as I'd expected it would be. If I'd known this I'd probably not have bothered with a 3G phone, to be honest.
Does HSDPA make a big difference to speeds? And on a slightly different topic, does EDGE bring non-3G phones to anywhere near 3G speeds? Just curious... 😊

Re. HSDPA; depends on what you're planning to use HSDPA for. 3G has a theoretical max speed of 384kbps and HSDPA has 3.6Mbps (=almost 10x as much...), so yes there's a big difference. For "ordinary" browsing using your phone however I wouldn't say it's major but noticeable. On the other hand, if you want to use your phone as a modem for your PC the difference should be very significant since not only the transfer speed in HSDPA is almost 10x as to 3G but the latency should (from what I've heared) be much less noticeable.

Re. EDGE; Yes, from my experience it does. Depending on which EDGE class the phone supports it's theoretical max. speed is 238kbps and (from my experience) the latency is less noticeable than in 3G network.
But then of course, EDGE isn't available in all networks.

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superswede wrote:I have now verified the path to the option/setting. It is the one I stated above: Tools > Control panel > Connections > Mobile networks. Select 'More' and then 'GSM/3G Networks'.

If the option ain't there on your device I guess you have a branded one (with a customized firmware).

Any way to know if its really branded?
And any way to unbrand it?

There are several threads in this forum with info regarding debranding. Sitting on mobile device so I can't provide you with a link, suggest search this forum.