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P990i is really quite a poor phone!

11 replies · 7,960 views · Started 17 October 2006

I've had it two weeks and I have to say that, in my opinion, it really is a poor successor to the P910i. I've been a fan of P800, then P900, then P910i in turn but this is a step backwards, in my view. Here's why:

Completely unintuitive
It's taken me a fair old while to work out some of the stuff. Now someone is going to say "but it's all in the manual". Pants! One of the really nice things about the P910i is that it was intuitive. I could use almost all functions without having to read a manual first.
By way of example, the applications used to reside in one long list which I could group by category if I wanted. Not now. Whilst most of the synchronised applications are accessible from the main applications window, if I want to access the Notes (an application that I, personally, have, historically, found to be very useful) I have to go into the Office application.

Loss of functionality
This time I have read the manual but can find no way of doing the following:
[LIST=1]
[*]Delete e-mail received via onto the phone using a messaging account.
[*]Import music transfered to the phone using the file manager
[*]Customise the applications that appear on the screen either with flip open or closed
[/LIST]
These were things that I could do before.

Flaky menu items
In SMS the ability to delete messages is sometimes listed as a menu item and sometimes not. What's that all about?

Flaky software
Now this is odd - whenever you disconnect from the USB cable having synchronised with the PC the phone brings up the Bluetooth connection menu.
Also, when coming out of an application the phone pad is often briefly displayed. Not a bug issue, granted. But why?

Prone to crashing
I've read a lot of people say that this is the case and some who say it isn't. Well, I'm definitely in the former camp. In fact, I can get the phone to crash on demand:
[LIST=1]
[*]Try editing a contact withe the flip closed, then open the flip. Oops - crash
[*]Connect the phone to the PC after having used more than one application (e.g. having played a music file and, say, opened calendar). Oh dear, phone crashes, turns itself off, and refuses to be recognised by the computer until unplugged and replugged in again.
[*]With the flip closed, edit a calendar entry and open the flip. You guessed it - crash, bang, wallop every time.
[/LIST]

Poor battery life
Apparently it's got 10.8 days stand-by battery time. Poppycock. With only minimal use I'm lucky to get a day and a half out of it and when it decides to go, boy does it. In the past week I've had complete battery failure.

Poor menu system
Yes, you do work them out but it can be confusing as you have often got two menus - one on the right at the top and one on the left at the top - which do subtly different things.

Slow screen response
Movement between screens is often painfully slow; often to the point that one wonders whether one has taken the action one thought.

Reduced screen area/ rubbish keyboard
A lot of space that could have been given over to the screen is wasted - IMHO - on the pathetic keyboard. Yes it looks nice, and the buttons have a better feel to them than the ones on the old P910i, but at the end of the day it seems to be there to try and win some of the Blackberry clan over. One of the differentiators between SE and Blackberry is the fact that I don't need to subject myself to RSI with SE as I can write naturally instead of using a segment of thumb.

Loss of functionality on the wheel
Whereas I used to be able to push the wheel in to select, push it away from me to cancel, and push it towards me to navigate, now all I can do with it - apart from spin the wheel to navigate - is push it in. Not only that but often it keeps going for a millisecond after I've stopped turning it which often leads to the wrong thing being selected. Not good. I've lost count of the number of times the phone has gone into Flight Mode when all I wanted was to turn it on.

Over-responsive navigation button
So now I have a navigation button. Press to the left, you go left. Press to the right, you go right. Up and down, same things. To select, I press the button in the middle of this set up. All well and good but it is all too easy to do this when trying to go left or right, up or down.

OK, so does it have anything going for it? Well, yes, a couple of things but only a couple:
[LIST=1]
[*]The predictive text is great once you acclimatise to it
[*]It's not a Blackberry. I can still choose to pull e-mail rather than have it pushed.
[*]It looks quite stylish
[*]Er
[*]That's it
[/LIST]

Marks out of 10? Well, probably only 3 I'm sorry to say :frown: . If someone comes out with a better phone that can be written to using a stylus then I'm off. Simple as...

Silly me - I nearly forgot one more thing: the software update service! It's actually a software / phone overwrite service so that everything in my phone has been completely wiped! Nice one Sony, nice one son! Which genius decided on that and thought it a good idea NOT to tell you when you do it? 😡 😡 😡

@Silent Mule

gave my spare P990 to a friend who had a P900. Just told him that the access was based on activities not a long list of apps. With this little piece of information he had no problems with using the P990.

Unfortunately many of the things that you refer to as requiring a manual I worked out within an hour of playing with the P990. Also with my P910 the update service wiped all the data so I'm not sure how the upate service has changed with the P990.

Performance of some apps such as Opera are much much faster than the P910. Others are at least similar. And then there is the 3G (super fast), wifi, BT2.0, FM radio, etc.

The UI performance is very good on my P990, I just switched-off the Jot function as I don't need it.

The screen and graphics are in a different league to the P910. The keyboard is also better than the one on the P910 and the predictive text is now free and is very good.

The flip closed functions are also very good compared to the P910.

The message delete issue was fixed as part of the last firmware upgrade.

I had many of the problems you mentioned..Like you, i could also get the phone to crash/hang on demand. It freaked me out as my previous P800 & P910 did not have these issues. So much for the wait...

I was then advised to upgrade to a so-called newer version software to 'solve' my issues. Be noted that i have done this once since i got the phone. The hanging continues. Updated again 2 days ago and viola, the crashing/hanging has stopped. Screen responce is very swift now, program loadings are quick & most importantly, it doesnt hang everytime i switch off the Alarm in the morning. Do have a look at your system info under the main menu. I sent it to a Sony Ericsson service centre & got it updated there.

Settings below;
Phone : CXC 162037 R7A001
Bluetooth : CXC 162058 R4F01
Organiser : CXC 162036 R3B01
CDA : CDA 162007/2 R3B01

Hope this will help you.....

@popcorn & others

A reflash is not sufficient, you should Format Internal Drive or Master Reset and don't restore a backup after a reflash. Re-sync with outlook and input new settings. Old FW can corrupt data fo using new FW can result in few improvements. A reflash does not clear out all the caches for settings therefore must Master Reset after a reflash.

Hmmm, some food for though, certainly. Let me respond here:

Update Service
I see that, for some people, the Sony Ericsson Update Service has solved some problems. And it has partially resolved a problem for me too:

The delete option for messages
the 'delete' functionality is now on the menu... sometimes. Yes, that's right. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not there.

My main beef with the update service is that it isn't an update service but, rather, an overwrite service. That's not good for starters and is made worse by the fact that there is no warning that this is the case. Thus, I lost a load of my data.

New problem - phone restarts to improve performance
On the face of it, this seems a good idea until you are mid call and the call is dropped so that the phone can restart to "improve performance". Well, I'm sorry but I fail to see how cutting me off in the middle of a call improves the performance of the phone as a phone! Surely the current call should be allowed to complete first after which I should be prompted to restart? My P800 used to do automatic restarts but never, ever, during a call.

Functionality
I'm sorry but I don't think it's good enough to say that the phone is now activities based rather than application based. The fact is that it takes longer to do the things I used to do. For example, if I want to send an SMS:

OLD WAY: click on 'Create new SMS'.
NEW WAY: click on 'Creat new message'; click on 'SMS'

2 steps instead of one. That is a simple example but there are many others that are more convoluted.

Update on the Media Player
The manula doesn't tell you this but you need to drop your MP3 files into the 'Music' folder. They can't be in a sub-folder. If they are, the update within media player won't be able to find them.

@Silent Mule, did you not know you can create a new SMS from the double triangle, one click!

hi every one am new here

i have p990 and i think its an excellent cell phone

and i didnt saw any proplem of those u guys talk about ???:con?

in my opinion its a good sony erricson job

and u know

i have one proplem with p990 and its with the sound i think the sounds are very weeeeek thats all

thanx 2 all

p990i:icon14:

Here's a solution, although it is more of a workaround than an actual fix. At least it means you can bulk delete your messages. I found it on developer.sonyericsson.com and it works on my p990i.

You use Task Manager to end the "Messaging" app, then restart and "Delete Message" is back in your menu.

Obviously this needs a proper fix (and, yes, I'm still a p990i fan, although i hope the next version has the 5-way dial/jog button back).

See below for the post from Daniel Chua on Dev.SE
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http://developer.sonyericsson.com/thread.jspa?messageID=95325

chua.daniel
Posted: Nov 25, 2006 3:56 PM in response to: sLm4ever
you guys noticed yet? yeah the delete message button was gone. I noticed it if you open up/view an sms message while flip closed first then close the app(messaging) and then open up the app again under flip open. then gone the delete button. But if you open an sms message directly under flip open the delete button is still there.

note:you must kill first the messaging app in task manager in order to resolve. but it'll show up again if you open an sms message initially using flip closed.

p.s. Sony team pls update your bug lists..thanks..hope new firmware will come up sooner..

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Here's another solution, this time from AngleFan@Expansys.

Using the DEL key on teh keyboard is also a fast way of deleting a single message after you have read it.

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http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?i=126791&thread=80
Angle_fan
17:57 13 Sep 06
I found the bulk deleting of messages annoying at first but I've realised how it's done now (for anyone still unsure) Just tick all boxes you want to delete and press del on the keyboard.
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popcorn wrote:I had many of the problems you mentioned..Like you, i could also get the phone to crash/hang on demand. It freaked me out as my previous P800 & P910 did not have these issues. So much for the wait...

I was then advised to upgrade to a so-called newer version software to 'solve' my issues. Be noted that i have done this once since i got the phone. The hanging continues. Updated again 2 days ago and viola, the crashing/hanging has stopped. Screen responce is very swift now, program loadings are quick & most importantly, it doesnt hang everytime i switch off the Alarm in the morning. Do have a look at your system info under the main menu. I sent it to a Sony Ericsson service centre & got it updated there.

Settings below;
Phone : CXC 162037 R7A001
Bluetooth : CXC 162058 R4F01
Organiser : CXC 162036 R3B01
CDA : CDA 162007/2 R3B01

Hope this will help you.....

I only (finally!) decided to get a P990i last week & when I powered it on for the first time, the phone had the latest firmware installed. So I haven't had any 'restarting to improve performance' or crashes so far - the phone works quite well and I'm very happy with it. 😊

this phone has certain capabilities....did you know why this phone got a secondary video call camera??? answer: to see the person who uses the phone.