I'm coming up with some really bad shots from my n73s camera. Or am I just expecting too much from it? Any shot thats taken with any amount of darkness turns up to have lots of blue tinted spots. All my night shots are horrible and when I'm just looking at the screen, there is this constant blue tint. Is anyone else getting this? Or do I just have some sort of setting wrong? Here, I'll post some of the types of shots that I'm getting.
The first two I think are decent for the types of pictures my camera has been taking. And the second two are one that it's taken at night, which I think are terrible. I always get the blueish tint whenever there any darkness in the shot.
Hi,
I took some pictures in low light conditions the other day with my new n73 and was horrified with the results- i've got that same blue tinge that you've got. I know we shouldn't expect too much from a phone camera as the sensor cant really be compared to a CCD one in a digital camera, but it was still disappointing after the daylight ones outside were so fantasic.
Perhaps it's just a fault with our handsets though?
Anyone else?
Joe
Blue cast - do the firmware upgrade to 3.xx, because for me it improves a little that behavior.
Lack of definition on low light - all point of shot cameras, and I compare N73 like that, have more or less that kind of problems. Also the new firmware can improve that a little, but is only solved by a good lens camera, like Fuji or Canon SLR line.
ill post a couple of pics up when i get home for comparison.
MattC wrote:ill post a couple of pics up when i get home for comparison.
Think it must be just how the camera is, here one i took in decent light
And heres one taken at night:
ooh yea i see how theyre so similar. Do you think we have any way to remedy the problem? Or is it really JUST how the camera is?
Is a very little lens... without capacity to grad more light. All little lens have more or less the same behavior. "Leica" said that a camera is the lens and the rest... I think they are right. To grab all the light at night, only with great and big lens, and good exposure. A camera phone don�t have any of that, even N73, that is one of the best. I think is like this:frown:
So is that how is works? Well, that's really a shame, I thought it might have been something a firmware update would have been able to fix!
It seems that some of the pictures were taken with zoom. Digital zoom affects very much the quality of the picture, so I recommend you to take photos without it, if possible. Also check if you have selected the highest quality and resolution for pictures.
The amount of light is dictated by the lens, but the actual measure of the amount of light is measured by the "F" number (aperture).
So, if the markings on the N73 are to be believed, it can pull in the same amount of light as any other F2.8 lens (ie. on my Canon A70, or Casio EX-Z60).
Have only ever had 1 lens any faster .... a F1.7 lens on a manual camera years back. That was truly awesome.
Anyway, couple of pics from my N73, just to show how good it can be :
Tower Bridge on an evening. Maybe a little too much noise, but its not too bad.
Black and White image, tunnel near Tower Bridge :
And a daytime shot to show the colour balance :
There are a few more on my Flickr pages : http://www.flickr.com/photos/53601971@N00/
Uh, yea i didnt use digital zoom at all in those photos and its all highest settings.
and for the post right above mine, wow, what nice dasrk pictures. Are all those with default settings? It's really niiice
First one was night mode, flash switched off, second one was just forced to black and white. Last one was totally auto. Steady hand needed ....
clonmult wrote:First one was night mode, flash switched off, second one was just forced to black and white. Last one was totally auto. Steady hand needed ....
Okay I think I'll definitely try it out with Night Mode. What does setting night mode actually do to the camera? And I'm guessing pictures in niht mode have to be staying really really still
Night mode just amplifies the signal coming from your CMOS sensor in the camera, but the sensor gets the same light and this is how the noise appears. The F number is known as apperture and determines the brightness of the picture. This means that a camera with bigger F number will take better pictures in low-light conditions. Also the exposing time is increased, so you need to keep the camera realy steady when taking pics. The best is to have a bigger sensor with the price of having a bigger lens => bigger camera. The advantage of a bigger sensor is that the small little light sensors from it can take more light and the signal is stronger. That's why the "old" cameras with film are the best, they don't introduce any noise, no matter how dark it is. In my opinion, digital cameras will never be as good as analog ones.
Indeed we have some real camera buffs here. Does anyone else have any other tips for taking photos with the n73 so we get the best looking photos as possible?
ratza wrote:The F number is known as apperture and determines the brightness of the picture. This means that a camera with bigger F number will take better pictures in low-light conditions. That's why the "old" cameras with film are the best, they don't introduce any noise, no matter how dark it is. In my opinion, digital cameras will never be as good as analog ones.
F number - you got it the wrong way round. F1.7 lets in more light than F5.6 ...
What do you mean film doesn't introduce noise? There is natural grain on film, and the higher the ISO rating of the film, the more noise (or grain) you get.
However, that grain can add a beautiful effect on images, portraits and the such. Its generally not as irritating as the noise induced by the night mode. I used some 1600 rated film years back, tried to do some night shots with a fully manual camera (Blackpool illuminations). They actually came out quite well, spoilt by the auto processing at the film lab I worked at - they need an edge to determine the start/end of the image, and with the nighttime shots, there was generally no such edge 😞
You're right about the F number, I should have take a look before submit, but I still consider that the analog cameras are better. And the pictures will look even better if you make them fully by yourself, form taking the shot to developing.
I have been having one trouble with the camera on my N73, sometimes (probably about 2 out of 10 photos) the saved image will display as a blank black screen.
Does anyone know if there is a simple fix for this, all my camera options are standard and on auto etc.
Cheers,
Paul
If I am not mistaken I remember that the N73 has a mechanical shutter. If the screen is totaly black, then it seems you shutter is not opening. Take your phone to a service or to NSC if it is still in warranty period.
I'd recommend you do a google seach and check other forums seawrches as well for the black problem, I've read about a number of other people having that problem, I just can't remember what he/she did and what forum it was posted on.
ratza wrote:You're right about the F number, I should have take a look before submit, but I still consider that the analog cameras are better. And the pictures will look even better if you make them fully by yourself, form taking the shot to developing.
Ah, now that takes me back a long time to when I was a lad, with a fully manual camera, separate light meter, all the kit, then getting the film developed in the dark room at home. Total creative control, got some wonderful shots out of it.
I do still prefer my old 35mm cameras, but I do reckon that DSLRs are easily a match for them now, and I believe that there are a few with full frame (ie. 35mm height) sensors that can give pictures of equal quality to traditional film. And there are even digital camera backs for traditional SLRs as well, further blurring the line between the two formats.