Hi all my fellow N80 geeks!
Ok so today I got Truphone working on my recently flashed N80 Internet Edition which means now I have Gizmo and Truphone both working fine.
It seems Sipgate also provides a working voip service too, which means there are now 3 services that work on the N80IE (maybe more ...).
2 Questions:
1. What is the difference between these? There is no 'client' to install on the phone, so they all use the same software (ie built in to the phone), so I can't really see any major differences other than price of calling landlines etc, which I'm not going to do anyway (yet). Is there difference in call quality? Gizmo provides a desktop client too which is a bonus. Any other important differences I haven't thought of?
2. Why would you have more than one service installed/connected on your phone? Today I had gizmo and truphone both connected at the same time, and really couldn't work out what advantage that would give me, surely one is enough!! When both of these are connected, do I have 2 different SIP numbers? One for Gizmo and one for Truphone?
Thanks guys!
pinksteady wrote:Hi all my fellow N80 geeks!Ok so today I got Truphone working on my recently flashed N80 Internet Edition which means now I have Gizmo and Truphone both working fine.
It seems Sipgate also provides a working voip service too, which means there are now 3 services that work on the N80IE (maybe more ...).
2 Questions:
1. What is the difference between these? There is no 'client' to install on the phone, so they all use the same software (ie built in to the phone), so I can't really see any major differences other than price of calling landlines etc, which I'm not going to do anyway (yet). Is there difference in call quality? Gizmo provides a desktop client too which is a bonus. Any other important differences I haven't thought of?
2. Why would you have more than one service installed/connected on your phone? Today I had gizmo and truphone both connected at the same time, and really couldn't work out what advantage that would give me, surely one is enough!! When both of these are connected, do I have 2 different SIP numbers? One for Gizmo and one for Truphone?
Thanks guys!
well truphone doesnt have a pc client, so sombody with Gizmo on their PC can call you on your truphone sip number for free, and you can call a gizmo sip number for free...or any other sip number
pinksteady wrote:Hi all my fellow N80 geeks!Ok so today I got Truphone working on my recently flashed N80 Internet Edition which means now I have Gizmo and Truphone both working fine.
It seems Sipgate also provides a working voip service too, which means there are now 3 services that work on the N80IE (maybe more ...).
2 Questions:
1. What is the difference between these? There is no 'client' to install on the phone, so they all use the same software (ie built in to the phone), so I can't really see any major differences other than price of calling landlines etc, which I'm not going to do anyway (yet). Is there difference in call quality? Gizmo provides a desktop client too which is a bonus. Any other important differences I haven't thought of?
2. Why would you have more than one service installed/connected on your phone? Today I had gizmo and truphone both connected at the same time, and really couldn't work out what advantage that would give me, surely one is enough!! When both of these are connected, do I have 2 different SIP numbers? One for Gizmo and one for Truphone?
Thanks guys!
You will have 2 different sip numbers yes, one for each account, you reallt only need to use one, I will be using truphone at the moment because they have extended their free call offer now untill March,
My dad has Gizmo on his computer on dial up so I will call that via gismo on my N80 to build up active status on Gizmo to qualify for their all calls free program ..
Can you provide a link to where it says they have extended the free calls offer till March? The only info I found was here, which still says December (I'm in UK)
Also can you give link/info on the Gizmo free calls program, cheers!
pinksteady wrote:Can you provide a link to where it says they have extended the free calls offer till March? The only info I found was here, which still says December (I'm in UK)Also can you give link/info on the Gizmo free calls program, cheers!
Read this truphone forum and there is a message from the CEO of Truphone
http://www.mobilevoipforum.org//forum/thread/214/
Look for the James Tagg message
Truphone
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Advantages : Free call offer for the next few months, will work on a regular N80 when available, free number (of mobile kind)
Disadvantage : Requires its own client to be installed, not yet available for regular N80, calls to mobile 15p/min
Gizmo
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Advantage : Free calls to landlines in certain countries
Disadvantage : Plug-in download required, Call-in number not free, Calls to 12p/min
Sipgate
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Advantage : Free call-in number (land line based), account compatible with any other PC sip client, sip hardware phone etc, voicemail, No install program to download or install (just configure SIP in settings). Calls to mobiles 9.9p/min
Disadvantage : No free calls to landlines
Generally speaking, you can use the N80i with any SIP provider such as sipgate... It really just comes down to the cost of calls and features such as call-in etc.. You can also use this account on a PC or any other SIP capable device.
Nigma wrote:Truphone
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Advantages : Free call offer for the next few months, will work on a regular N80 when available, free number (of mobile kind)
Disadvantage : Requires its own client to be installed, not yet available for regular N80, calls to mobile 15p/minGizmo
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Advantage : Free calls to landlines in certain countries
Disadvantage : Plug-in download required, Call-in number not free, Calls to 12p/min
Sipgate
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Advantage : Free call-in number (land line based), account compatible with any other PC sip client, sip hardware phone etc, voicemail, No install program to download or install (just configure SIP in settings). Calls to mobiles 9.9p/min
Disadvantage : No free calls to landlines
Generally speaking, you can use the N80i with any SIP provider such as sipgate... It really just comes down to the cost of calls and features such as call-in etc.. You can also use this account on a PC or any other SIP capable device.
calls to free landlines with gizmo is not exactly true .. you have to qualify by bieng an active user and I think can only call free to other active users landlines
Ah rite... in that case, i see no real advantage of using gizmo over any of the other two.
I'm sticking with sipgate because I get a UK land line number, which will cost anyone who calls me next to nothing. Also as I mostly call mobiles, sipgate offers the best price for this.
Nigma wrote:Ah rite... in that case, i see no real advantage of using gizmo over any of the other two.I'm sticking with sipgate because I get a UK land line number, which will cost anyone who calls me next to nothing. Also as I mostly call mobiles, sipgate offers the best price for this.
And you can use sipgate on the N80 ??...have you a link to a setupguide, or maybe you can post one..
Sorry, should have mentioned. It HAS to be the N80i or N80 with N80i firmware. Mine is the latter.
Anyway here are the install steps:
1. Register a sipgate account
2. On th N80
a) Tools->Settings->Connection->Sip settings
b) Complete the details as below, exclude quotes.
Profile name : "Sipgate" (can be anything you want to identify this)
Service Profile : "IETF"
Default Access Point : (Choose your already defined WiFi connection)
Public User name: "sip:[email protected]" (replace 123456 with your sipgate id"
Use Compression : "No"
Registration "When needed"
Use Security "No"
Proxy Server
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Proxy server address : "sip:sipgate.co.uk"
Real : "sipgate.co.uk"
user name : "1234567" (as above)
Password : "ABCDEF" (your sipgate password)
Alow loose routing "Yes"
Transport type "UDP"
Port "5060"
Registrar Server
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reg server address : "sip:sipgate.co.uk"
Real : "sipgate.co.uk"
user name : "1234567" (as above)
Password : "ABCDEF" (your sipgate password)
Transport type "UDP"
Port "5060"
Now that is complete, you need to set up Internet telephone settings
Tools->Settings>Connection->Internet tel. settings
1. New Profile
2. Give it a name
3. Choose "sipgate" as the SIP profiles
Now the configuration is complete, you can connect to the SIP server.
1. Internet->Internet Tel.
It should find your Wifi connection. Select it, and by default it will connect to sipgate automatically. You can configure it here to automatically register with sipgate in the presence of this Wifi connection.
Any calls to your sip number will be routed to your phone. You can call a regular phone by going through the phonebook and selected internet call instead of voice call.
Hope this helps. Give me a shout if you need any further info.
Anand
Cash
Sipgate works 100% with N80IE
go to www.sipgate.co.uk
register for an account
then go to the help page use settings same as E60/E61
the menu names are slightly different, you need to go to
Tools/Settings/Connection/Sip Settings and add new.
When you have entered these go to
Tools/Settings/Connection/Internet Tel. Settings
create a new profile from the sipgate settings you entered.
And thats it, go to the internet folder and open internet tel, then click options/change service and choose sipgate
I can't get Sipgate to work on my phone... did you do a restore of an old N80 backup or did you copy the phone book back manually? I understand a proper restore causes some issues with Sipgate.
I synced the phone booked with outlook prior to the firmware upgrade, then re-synced after.
At what point can you not get it to work?.. What errors are you seeing?
Can't seem to get sipgate to work within my company network. Works at home fine.
Truphone does however work.. Anybody have any recomendations on what might be causing this?
Thanks Anand
I'm having problems with getting sipgate to work on my n80 with IE fw.
I followed the setup guide, but when I go to Internet Tel and do connect to service it tries... then comes back with "unable to connect the connection network"
The wlan works, the necessary ports are forwarded from the router to the phone which is on a fixed IP. The xlite client works absolutely fine on my pc & laptop so I just changed the forwarding rule in the router to the mobile. Any ideas?? Is there any log info available for the SIP registration to give any pointers as to where it is failing?
Solved the problem, I needed to enable upnp on the router & I stuck the phone in the DMZ
Well, it connects and I can make outbound calls but get no audio back...
If an inbound call comes in and the service is regsitered I get a warning:
App. closed:
SscSrvServerThread
USER 22
bugger!
HI
I have an N80 standerd! and was wondering if some one could do a "backup to memory card" of their N80ie then send me a copy of there memory card data! this will allow me to restore from memory card and then ill have N80ie...
I would really appriciate it!
e::mail me if you have it at "ht _ by"AT"yahoo. co.uk" (no spaces, i needed to add them to put the address in the post)
postaboy
Unfortunately that won't work. This is because the firmware is not stored on the memory card, but in the phone memory itself, and even if you backed up the phone memory, it still wouldn't work! Firmware is too fundamental to be passed on in this way, the only way to upgrade is by flashing the phone either yourself or at a Nokia service centre.
alfa145 wrote:Well, it connects and I can make outbound calls but get no audio back...If an inbound call comes in and the service is regsitered I get a warning:
App. closed:
SscSrvServerThread
USER 22
bugger!
you solved this issue yet??
Im having similar... although already had Upnp enabled and had forwarded the ports still cant connect 😡
EDIT>> Fixed it... was using incorrect password :redface:
No unfortunately not - it connects, rings when it is dialed, but when answered it crashes out. I did a restore of my backup from the N80 after I upgraded to N80i, which might have been the problem, as occasionally contacts, texts and the OpenHand client crash out with a similar error. I will reflash and try again when I get a spare 5 minutes....
Wish my problem was an incorrect pwd!
ah... shame... I got the password I allocated for the program... didnt realise i needed to assign the pwd they allocated... (in case you were thinking the same)
anyway, the help files think you may need to forward your ports as folloows:
Port: 5060 / UDP
Port: 5004 / UDP
Port: 10000 (STUN)
if you havent done so.. might also be worth trying... plus... reversing your UPnP... so if its on .. turn it off... and vice versa although if your getting far enought to be called before a crash it sounds software related...
have registered with sipgate and have got everything setup okay. Big problem for me though is that although I hear the other person loud and clear with no breaking up, but the callee experiences breakup of the sound every few seconds. My firewall has all outbound traffic enabled - any idea what is causing this or am I better off trying a different voip provider such as Gizmo - any experiences out there?
I'm wondering whether gizmo has better performance as it configures more network settings with the dedicated install. Haven't had the chance to try it out yet. Any advice?
kefabean wrote:have registered with sipgate and have got everything setup okay. Big problem for me though is that although I hear the other person loud and clear with no breaking up, but the callee experiences breakup of the sound every few seconds. My firewall has all outbound traffic enabled - any idea what is causing this or am I better off trying a different voip provider such as Gizmo - any experiences out there?I'm wondering whether gizmo has better performance as it configures more network settings with the dedicated install. Haven't had the chance to try it out yet. Any advice?
I have noticed differebces between different VIOP networks, Truphone seems to be the clearest I have used, it also depends on the traffic being used over the internet when you are calling, there are certain times in the day when its clearer than others.
best thing to do it add some more voip networks and try them over a few days to see which suits you better ..
after someones comment on the forum Ive downloaded that Fring from their website... seems pretty cool.... nice GUI, works with the well know VOIP services, basically allows me to keep in touch with the people that wont leave their beloved skype.
kontraband wrote:after someones comment on the forum Ive downloaded that Fring from their website... seems pretty cool.... nice GUI, works with the well know VOIP services, basically allows me to keep in touch with the people that wont leave their beloved skype.
whats the quality of the calls like ??..is there a delay at all, or delay in connecting, and does it work over wifi ??
Cheers
I will let you know when my US conterparts come on... most of the UK skypers etc are tucked up in bed or on the lash! 🙄
kontraband wrote:I will let you know when my US conterparts come on... most of the UK skypers etc are tucked up in bed or on the lash! 🙄
Haha I hear that ...and all us sad f*cks are still here trying to get the best out of our mobile phones 😊...my mates dont understand me haha