slitchfield wrote:I do see where you're coming from with this, honest I do. But I think you and others are exagerating quite a bit.
I may have exaggerated a bit 😊 and some OSs/UIs are worse than others in this respect (Palm is the best and WM the worst IMHO) and with any UI some tasks are easier than others.
When I first got an S60 device (an E61) a few months ago I wanted to change the aspects of screen saver. Firstly, I wanted to change the time out period. That's five or six levels down:
Menu>Tools>Settings>Phone>Display>Power saver time-out
(It's those six levels on my device now but may have been 'only' five levels by default and I put 'Settings' in 'Tools' when I tidied up the Menu screen - I'll come to that in a minute).
I also wanted to see if I could change what the screen saver displays. I found it eventually, it's in a completely different place:
Menu>Tools>Profiles>Select profile>Edit>Power saver
(Not that there was an option I wanted to change to until I installed Handy Weather).
(I also wanted the keys to lock when the screen saver activated. I eventually realised you couldn't without a third party app - I now use AutoLock - highly recommended).
Don't get me wrong, I think on balance S60v3 is great. I love the stability (no crashes in the four months I've had the E61). I love that (unlike Palm OS) it supports multitasking and UMTS and that I now have UMTS and Wifi in such a sleek device. I think the suite of bundled apps is really pretty good (I've needed many fewer third party apps than I had on the Treo 650) - the browser is stunning. I also like the active standby screen a lot.
There are definitely some things I'd like to see change though, mostly they're to do with the UI. Here are few of the more do-able ones that affect the main device UI:
1) One of the first things any new S60 user will do when they get a device is push the Menu button. First impressions count and that screen is a real mess: a mass of application, settings and folder icons in no apparent order. One of the first things I did was make some new folders and tidy up the menu page. I now have the original folders plus four more arranged alphabetically. It's much easier to use than what Nokia ships. First change: tidy up the menu screen by putting everything in a folder. Better still, ditch the folders and replace each one with a tab (think Launcher X on Palm OS).
2) I've also arranged all the icons inside the each folder alphabetically. A bit of a pain to do but much easier to find things. Second change: automatic alphabetising of Menu screen folders (or tabs) and their contents (or at least make this an option).
3) On the active standby screen there are seven icons and the two buttons under the screen to launch apps. Plus you can get to your main mail box, the calendar app and the to-do app from this screen. That's twelve apps and it's great. I'd hazard that twelve apps would cover 90 plus percent of app launches for 90 plus percent of users. Third change: pushing the menu button once should take you to the active standby screen; pushing it twice should take you to the Menu screen (or at least make this an option).
4) There's back-up functionality but it's hidden in a menu in the 'Memory' app. On my Mac, on a Palm or WM device back-up is done via a dedicated app with it's own icon to launch it. Fourth change: don't hide things like this away in unexpected places.
5) The 'Settings' screen doesn't respect the grid view option which means only five things are visible rather than 12 (on an E61). Also, see my example about the screen saver above. Fifth change: Re-do the settings interface, grouping things together logically, allowing grid view and trying to reduce the depth to which things are buried. Palm 'Preferences' is a good example of how to get this right.