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Free Nokia Sat Nave on N80 (n95 stylee)

28 replies · 6,606 views · Started 08 February 2007

many will of missed it on the front page of aas so here you go:

Nokia has today announced that they will make their mapping and navigation solution (smart2go) available for free download.....

LINK!!!

I believe its only free as a route planner, you need to subscibe for sat nav to work. periods from 1 week upwards.

blurfonz wrote:Would need to get a GOS unit to try out

you can use it to view maps etc without a gps unit, but you would have to tell it where you are, and to navigate (the bit that charges) you need a gps unit.

i suspect many of us will be trying it. theres not much chance of me moving away from tomtom, but I'll try it for the sake of it!

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but are you charged for data usage when actually driving along using satnav on your phones or is there no actual internet connection between your phone and gps receiver, just a bluetooth connection? Thanks...

Sorry, I know I'm a complete numbnut, but what does that mean ? I sort of understand that I can (soon) download maps from nokia for free. I know I'll have to pay a weekly/monthly/yearly fee to nokia if I want a voice to tell me turn left/right etc, and I know I'd need a bluetooth GPS receiver for my N80 to pair to, but is that it? Or am I actually paying "extra"during my journey for however long that journey lasts (ie using up pay monthly minutes on Orange or racking up data charges on Orange ?

Perhaps if I don't already know this I shouldn't be driving, let along using a simple GPS !

Thanks for your patience!

Jim

One other question. Would any GPS receiver work with the N80 and these nokia maps or should I avoid certain makes ?

Thanks again.

jfant1 wrote:One other question. Would any GPS receiver work with the N80 and these nokia maps or should I avoid certain makes ?

Thanks again.

The holux/holox BT321 and HolumSlim GPS are popular... and cheap... theres a tread here

jfant1 wrote:Sorry, I know I'm a complete numbnut, but what does that mean ? I sort of understand that I can (soon) download maps from nokia for free. I know I'll have to pay a weekly/monthly/yearly fee to nokia if I want a voice to tell me turn left/right etc, and I know I'd need a bluetooth GPS receiver for my N80 to pair to, but is that it? Or am I actually paying "extra"during my journey for however long that journey lasts (ie using up pay monthly minutes on Orange or racking up data charges on Orange ?

Perhaps if I don't already know this I shouldn't be driving, let along using a simple GPS !

Thanks for your patience!

Jim

Hi Jim:

There is no charge for GPS use. GPS technology is free and is not encrypted. There are some restrictions on commerical GPS devices (mainly a velocity restriction, so someone can't build a guided missile using a hacked up Garmin) but for all intents and purposes, it is free.

There is no charge for the receiver to hook up to the GPS satellites, there is no charge for the phone to hookup to the receiver. So if you can live without voice guidance and end-to-end route planning, you can use the software for free without incurring any kinds of charges at all.

What is charged is the turn-by-turn guidance (with voice) and the detailed city guides with POI (Points of Interest -- ie, ATM locations, etc.) I believe this is what you are actually paying for with your subscription.

Think of it like a car GPS receiver. There is no data charge, just a charge for you to update your navigation CD/DVDs every so many months.

Hope this helps 😊

Brilliant. Thanks so much for making it 100% clear and to others for advice re receivers...

Cheers.

Jim

One more thing -- you will face data charges as the first time around, the system has to download the routing, POI and other information from the web.

You can do this over WiFi and it will cache the information for local use.

If you are lucky enough to have a provider that gives you unlimited data plans (I'm not) then this is a non-issue 😊

If you use maps fromthe card and GPS then there is no charge. Of course then you do not have voice navigation

fyrestrtr wrote:Has anyone noticed you can't actually download the application from the site?

Launch was originally going to be 10th but delayed until sometime today (12th).
Maploader's currently available but still no main application.

but i dont get where the maps come from??

i just nstalled tomtom so i would ony be testing this one but i dont want to pay anything

map come from the map loader on the site, i installed the ap but it stays frozen in 12% and then freezes my phone, what the hell i reinstalled it and still doing this. It takes forever to install atleast 15 mins. There has to be something wrong with my phone or the slowest program ive seen

Nothing wrong SpeTz. After installation just reboot the phone and it will work. It happend to me also. After reboot (poweroff-power-on) application starts normaly

i have v4.0623.0.41

my n80 will not let me install it - it just says the file is not supported. has anyone else had this problem? i've def selected n80 each time!

[SIZE="2"]Major Warning for any Navicore Personal users[/SIZE]

Installing Smart2Go will bork Navicore totally (at least it has on my N80).
It seems to uninstall Navicore's Licensing manager, preventing Navicore from working. Repair install doesn't fix it..

I'm currently reformatting my card in anticipation of a full reinstall. Hopefully this will solve it. Of course I've lost all my favourites etc. I've advised Nokia of this via the Smart2Go site. I'm seriously unimpressed...😡

It took me about 10-15 minutes to install Smart2Go on my N80, and another 45-60 minutes to download the map for Texas, but I think it was worth it! It's a pretty neat application, although a bit sluggish and the maps take a lot of space on your memory card.

KiN.

jfant1 wrote:Sorry if this is a stupid question, but are you charged for data usage when actually driving along using satnav on your phones or is there no actual internet connection between your phone and gps receiver, just a bluetooth connection? Thanks...

You can download the app on a PC and transfer it by cable/bluetooth so no charge there. Then it needs the maps. Nokia have a PC app to download the maps and again you transfer them to the phone, though it did say something about you having used it live at least once so you may have to do an initial download of map data, but if you don't browse anywhere then it won't download more.

The best solution is to use WiFi on a home or other free WiFi connection. Install the app, and use WiFi to download the initial maps. Then use the PC app to pick which maps you want.

There's an indicator to tell you when it's downloading stuff though not very obvious.

In typical fashion it's also annoying that it doesn't have a 'ask me' option for the Internet connection, so it will just try and connect to the net using the default connection. I hate that as I want it to ask so I can pick WiFi at home, not have it go off and dial Orange or whatever without asking.

Anyway, my initial opinion is that it's slow at certain map levels (very slow). Once you zoom in enough it's fine. I doubt this will be a match for a dedicated sat nav device though as the processor in the N80 just isn't really up to the job I think. Still, it looks nice.

Ive tried it out now, no installation issues apart from it did take ages! (the initial package the england map also took a long time but thats to be expected).

It seams ok apart from the fact that it keeps trying to connect as described above but ive disabled network connection now and will just turn it on if i need it. Ive not tried navigation yet (as it costs) but it does route plan for free. So far the times have been well out (saying it takes a lot longer than it does –compared to both reality and to tomtom).

Prices for navigation are:
7 days: £4.29
30 days: £5.29
1 year: £39.69

I have tomtom already, but think if I head abroad for holidays I may use the nokia software as tomtom isn’t available for as many places and would be expensive to buy the map. (yes I know I could download it but we don’t talk about that here and it only £5ish to use the nokia software!)

Edit:
heres a nice review: http://www.e-series.org/archives/294