BDS wrote:As regards whom Nokia listens to, I am concerned that - as far as their business devices - they are not listening at all and the poor performance of the business devices division is the best proof thereof....
...Hope Nokia will realise sooner than later (before they are forced to close the business devices division) that a PIM is one of the key applications for business power users... Not only on e90 but also on other e series devices...
Nokia is already laying off people in that division, as we speak. But hey let the apologists continue defending them. The "majority" of Enterprise and business users is apparently voting with their dollars - at other people's shops.
I see that the E90 has quadband GSM/EDGE however does it have triband (850+1900+2100) UMTS to enable UMTS use in Americas as well as European environment?
Mike
Rafe,
You said that: The 2.5mm jack includes composite TV support and final E90s should ship with a proper TV out cable.
Have you had confirmation of this? Other sites seem to think that TV out will not be supported... Really hope it is
wuold an E90 made for European market works in the US?
jah wrote:on my WM5 device (HTC Universal) I cannot sync categories for Outlook Notes! Even M$ can't everything right. And WM5 can't even render HTML emails! If you don't like the E90 don't buy one. Also my 2MP P990 outshines the camera and video on my HTC Universal. And my K800i camera quality is in a different league to any HTC device I have used (Universal & TyTN).
Also please name ONE WM device that is a phone size package that has ALL the following: 3G/UMTS, HSDPA, GPS & 3MP camera (or even a 2MP camera).
jah, how about the upcoming HTC P4550 aka HTC Kaiser as just "ONE WM device" having "ALL" of your precious 3G/UMTS, HSDPA, GPS & 3MP camera plus HSUPA and (oh yes) this HTC P4550 is a bit more phone sized (at 110 x 58 x 18 mm versus E90's 132 x 57 x 20 mm) and less heavy (at 160g versus E90's 210g) !
It also has a pressable rotary scroll wheel for one handed support and touchscreen for handwriting support to boot !
Sadly though, this HTC Kaiser is missing stereo speakers, TV and FM radio support and still uses a stupid proprietary ExtUSB for audio jack !
hello fellas.
thanks for the nice discussion regarding the PIM functions on the new E90. personally, i have never used a single WM based phone neither have I used the communicators ever.
i got a silly question, I'm assuming you you can sync most functions for outlook if not all such as the emails, contacts, calneders, tasks and notes, right?
as for WM phones, i heard from many that usually the phones are not too well built and have many problems. I;m afraid that even a newer version of WM (WM 6) will even be less stable than its predecessor.
As for what BDS said with regards to the dilemma his organization had with regards to choosing either the older communicator version or the blackberry, i think the E90 along with E61/E61i have solved the problem concerning the download of emails using the blackberry newtwork, right?
I'm interested to know what the follow up reviews from E90 will say with regards to the business functions of the phone. i have almost the same concerns as BDS with regards to the PIM functions. but im even further worried with WM phones as most manufacturers are a bit dubious (taiwanese) and if you try to visit one of their websites you will know what you may be getting yourself into!
How about the blackberry phone itself? th enew one i think its called 8800?
thanks.
"skagen".. hmmm. I think we are dealing with an SE shill.
the e90 really one of the exceptionally desined communicators and is only all in one 3g communication machine which is lasses with every 3g feature.hopefully every communicator lover will go for it like anything.undoubtly very elegant and imppressive device nokia has ever made.and price expected to be in the range of previous communicators with more powerfull battery and no hang ups
My heart sank when i read 2.5mm jack and no word highlighting in browser. A2DP is very welcome. (at last)
Otherwise, a neat device. may well replace my e61 if i like the kboard.
I too have been dragged along this path by a love of Psions...The 5MX was a great machine. At that time the mobile telephony was provided in a separate device - like the SH888 (blimey how *old* am I?)
Anyway, I have been disappointed by recent Nokias in that the functionality has been piled in but the performance has taken a massive hit. Remember monochrome phones that were just phones, sure there were slow ones too, but you rarely spent time *waiting* for a phone to respond to a keystroke.
Nokia peaked with the 6310i in my view, although the 6230i is pretty good. I *hate* waiting for a phone to catch up with me, but the 6680 *and* the E61 make me wait for bloody ages, showing me a blank screen while it decides whether or not it's going to divulge the number for a contact or the text of a message that's been received.
So, my question is, does the E90 *feel* fast, do you spend time waiting for it, or would you describe it as responsive?
Blimey, I mean soldiers still have frequency agile encrypted radios the size of rucsacks in the field, and so I don't mean to be churlish to whinge about the way that these incredible pieces of technolofy work, but sometimes I think that they push it just that little too far and the usability suffers as a result
i am new to the world of Symbian and Communicators (have played around a little with the e61 and liked it).
1.Does the E90 have Blackberry Push email via BB connect? The official specs dont seem to say so.
2. Can one project PPTs thru a VGA out to an external screen? Does it have a VGA out?
3. i use a lot of ppt. Does the software support full animation and other features of the Office 2007?
4.A few things from the specs that i didnt quite follow: What is the Nokia Wireless Presenter?? Whats VOIP 2.1? Can it do Skype?
5. Can one SMS or email short voice notes? (say upto one minute?) instead of typing them?
6. How much better or worse is the keyboard as compared to say the e61 or a blackberry? i can only thumb type! And what can the e90 Do which the e61i cannot?
grateful for your thoughts.
I personally believe that the QWERTY keyboard and the clamshell design isn't going anywhere. I've been using the Nokia Communicator since the first 9000 came out. I've had the 9110i and 9210i as well as a 9300 which I left for a 9500.
Now the devices aren't exactly perfect. They miss a few features that I really would liked the Communicator to have had, but as for the qwerty keyboard and the clamshell design is what I really appreciate in these units.
I really can't stand writing text messages and email's with a touch screen. I've owned a P910i and got really fed up with it. It was a great device, but I honestly prefer the qwerty layout, much easier for me.
I also like the clamshell design because it allows me to keep the inside screen scratch free. Not only that, I don't need to worry about scratching the screen because I'm using a stylus.
I was honestly hoping that the 9500 would have at least a 1.3mpx camera and 3G, but now the E90 has come out, I don't really need to worry about that as I'll be switching to it as soon as it hits the shelves.
Anyways, great review on the E90!
The Saint
When is the nokia e90 being launched?
thanks
I still miss those old black and white screen Psions... I've been using the Psion 3c and then the Psion 5... too bad the line has been cut... sigh...
What I'll really like to see is some company pick up from where Psion 5mx left off... minus the touchscreen, larger unit with more comfy keyboard... that'll really make any writer fork out the cash...
Oh... btw, I still prefer the black and white screen over colour screens... cos they're easier on the eyes and consume less energy...
Fantastic E90 review:
my-symbian.com/s60v3/review_e90.php
Unregistered wrote:Rafe,You said that: The 2.5mm jack includes composite TV support and final E90s should ship with a proper TV out cable.
Have you had confirmation of this? Other sites seem to think that TV out will not be supported... Really hope it is
I can't be sure, we'll have to wait and see. It does seems to have the necessary chipset though.
athreya wrote:i am new to the world of Symbian and Communicators (have played around a little with the e61 and liked it).1.Does the E90 have Blackberry Push email via BB connect? The official specs dont seem to say so.
2. Can one project PPTs thru a VGA out to an external screen? Does it have a VGA out?
3. i use a lot of ppt. Does the software support full animation and other features of the Office 2007?
4.A few things from the specs that i didnt quite follow: What is the Nokia Wireless Presenter?? Whats VOIP 2.1? Can it do Skype?
5. Can one SMS or email short voice notes? (say upto one minute?) instead of typing them?
6. How much better or worse is the keyboard as compared to say the e61 or a blackberry? i can only thumb type! And what can the e90 Do which the e61i cannot?
grateful for your thoughts.
1. Yes it will.
2. Via Bluetooth this should be possible (i.e. not sure of the details of this)
3. Its not the full features. Its not bad though.
4. Nokia wireless presenter is (I assume) a Bluetooth device that connects to projectors so you can use it with the E90. VoIP is internet teelphony (voice over ip). It can do Skype - if they ever release as s60 client it would.
5. You wouldn't be able to sms voice, but you could send it by MMS or email
6. Tricky to say - better I'd say. The E90 has a better camera, bigger screen, bigger keyboard, different form factor to the E61i. Processor wise its more powerful, has more memory and a more recent version of the OS
Unregistered wrote:When is the nokia e90 being launched?thanks
Probably some time in the summer.
Hi,
Just wondering whether E90 support chinese star or any chinese softwares.
Hi,
Just wondering whether E90 support chinese star or any chinese softwares.
Do you know the launch date for the E90. & What price are we looking at?
I have an HTC clone (orange M5000 in UK) and as a pda i just love it. the keyboard is great, the PIM functions OK and I use it to make and read tons of Word/Excel documents. The real selling point is the keyboard and flip over screen.
As a phone.....just awful. Truly hideous to use. there seems to be a full 2 second gap between answering a call and being able to speak, the call buttons on the side catch all the time and the lack of a phone keypad is, for me, a nightmare. (still love the device though!)
I'm looking to upgrade and i want the following features - looks like a phone, works like a phone, has a phone keypad. has a full qwerty keyboard with 3G and smartphone capabilities.
So far as i can see if you want these things, the e90 is the only one that fits the bill. although i'll have to get used to a new OS and give up the touchscreen, i think that the other features are more imoprtant. i guess if HTC had a similar offering, i would look at that first, but the closest they do doesn't have 3G.
So although the E90 is large, if you want a full qwerty keyboard built into a proper phone with 3G and smartphone capabilities, it would seem to be the only device on the market.
Great review by the way, really helpful
the E 90 does support voip ? does 'support' mean that one could use skyp on it as well ?
As a thankfull 9300 user, I am wondering if there is a smaller E90 planned with similar functions.
The current E90 looks very as a follower to the 9500, but even the size numbers are very alike the 9300, the phone in practical behaves bigger.
Does anybody know a current secret here?
Jah, the WM5 device with 3G/UMTS, GPS, HSDPA and 2MP (not 3MP, but it is a great 2MP camera and good video cam) is the Dopod D810. I am using it on a daily basis. The form factor is very small, I can hardly feel it even when I put it in my shirt pocket!
...and what about 3rd parties?
Does it support i.e. TomTom 6 with a separate BT GPS receiver?
Nokia E-90 have a built-in voip support using SIP.
Skype is not "supported" directly yet, but there is a 3rd party working on it. Wait until end of the year, heard that skype is going to release s symbian version.
Yeah, waiting for the skype support...
I have had nokia's for many years. I moved up from a 5100 to a smart phone (IMATE JAMIN). Big mistake, it has been repaired 3 times now. Like anything that runs on windows it crashes. Touch screen replaced twice. Complete Phone once.
I await the release of E90 in Australia. I will be returning to nokia's as I found them to be more reliable than the hunk of junk i have now.
I've just bought the E90 and am using it quite a lot for surfing, email, phone, texting, diary, tasks and notes. I concur with most of the comments around the device being a better package if it had more Outlook functionality in its PIM. However someone made the point that how can anyone ask for a device to be truly converged if it still requires access to specific applications like Outlook. And this is highly relevant because if we are asking for a PDA and phone to be converged then it's because we want something that can be used standalone. It wouldn't be truly standalone if it needs Outlook. Why not ask for Outlook to be better integrated with the Nokia PIM app? I use the Nokia PIM app fine and I synch it with my corporate diary to ensure appointments are up to date in my pocket. I wanted this device over and above the N95 (I'm a 7610 and N73 user historically) for its keyboard and the 800 pixel wide screen for proper web page display. The keyboard helps me to make quick diary entries so that I don�t need to start my laptop and now I don�t even need to carry my laptop because I can carry some important info (in spreadsheets and notepad/word apps) around with me for easy/ quick access. In conclusion, my main needs are met. However, I would like the interface to be better. The device needs a more useable mouse/pointer as a minimum. Why couldn�t there be a touch sensitive joystick like those integrated in some laptop keyboards (e.g. IBM Thinkpad and Compaq N600 series) rather than the poor functioning 4-way arrow key? This would be a major improvement and not even require extra space. The other issue I have is that the inner display has two buttons on either side. The menu buttons on the right are inconvenient to use whilst the user is engaged in using the interface with the keyboard. These could be brought down to the top line of the keyboard where the dedicated app buttons are. The dedicated app buttons could call up a menu instead. The Phone keys (to the left of the main screen) could also be brought down and the whole screen sould be even wider for easier reading of small print on web pages.
On the whole, the device is excellent and I�m only suggesting tweaks that would make it even better and perfect for me. You have to bear in mind that there must be others out there who would disagree with my comments and prefer the device as it is and that�s where Nokia would perhaps want to explore the market for feedback.
Comments welcome.
Noted that many are upset of the lacking PIM support, have been using E61i, and also E90 where both devices are working well with our needs😉 taking into account the features of great applications for mail, mail for exchange or intelli which both have the necessary support, for all of the tasks while on the move all by accessing the central server, even updating meeting requests and alike, hence commonly used for business if the exchange server is hanging around, in some corner.
Can't find the need to "sync" with the office computer as the relevant data is already on hand in the phones, what do makes a difference is ability easily write a document and have a decent layout without too much troubble.
Those who are fond of other "gadgets" please buy these soonest possible to acheive your own satisfaction.
I will stay with these as these phones are serving me well,