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which program is better

17 replies · 2,993 views · Started 01 January 2003

Stacker (formerly known as SmartCompress) has been released by SymbianWare. It now works exactly like Space Doubler. The upgrade is free for all SmartCompress users.
Which of the programs do you think is better and why? I am a registered user of both programs but want to delete one of them... :roll: :roll:

I have been testing and comparing Stacker and Space Doubler for some time now, and this is what I think about these apps:

They are both nearly the same size (about 100k). If you use other progs of PsiLOC, Space Doubler only uses 50k of disk space, because all necessary libraries are already installed on your phone.

Stacker compresses a slight little bit better than Space Doubler but it is not able to compress the data of Java MIDlets, so all in all the saved disk space is the same with both programs.

Space Doubler:
+ graphical info page for compression results
- still seems to have little bugs with some apps
- leaves half uncompressed apps behind if the free disk space is too few (or does that happen only on my phone?)

Stacker:
+ seems to compress/uncompress faster
+ can compress every file on your drives
+ more stable, performs an "emergency rollback" if there is not enough space to uncompress an app

If I had to recommend one of the apps, I would recommend Stacker because of its speed and stability. Only if I used other PsiLOC apps, I would use Space Doubler.

I don't know, but I didn't had any stability problems with sDoubler (v1.00 commercial), and I prefer it because it leaves the icon of the compressed app where it was, and does not dissapears it like sCompress did.
Really, have they fixed this issue?

[quote="sigmacom"]I don't know, but I didn't had any stability problems with sDoubler (v1.00 commercial), and I prefer it because it leaves the icon of the compressed app where it was, and does not dissapears it like sCompress did.
Really, have they fixed this issue?[/quote]

Yes, they have. It now works exactly like Space Doubler!

I'll stick to sDoubler because I used sSaver as well, but I will evaluate Stacker to compare it ...... but one question tiger42, does Stacker allow you to compress Images as well as that is the missing features in sDoubler ?? 😃 😃

I would assume that both applications can do what it boasts. I would also consider the technical support for your application. PsiLoc has done a good job on tech support. How about Stacker? That I don't know.

I would think also that the reason why Stacker decompresses faster is that it still needs to be tested. sdouble used to decompress apps faster but later on, they included some failsafe funtionalities, then decompression was a bit delayed.

I would like to see the Half page status of what's happening when I open my application. At least I know what happens.

Since Stacker boasts for multi tasking, then this allows other factors for errors. Multi tasking is a difficult thing to do especially if you have other applications that you want to run, that has not been tested with Stacker. This means that some temporary files, or common libraries may at times lock up.

Not sure about this last one, but PsiLoc is an AAS member, and reads through AAS for your problems. How about Stacker??? 😃

[quote="MaxiMuS"]I'll stick to sDoubler because I used sSaver as well, but I will evaluate Stacker to compare it ...... but one question tiger42, does Stacker allow you to compress Images as well as that is the missing features in sDoubler ?? 😃 😃[/quote]

You can compress your images, but it is not very comfortable. You would like to have it automatically, right? Stacker contains a little file browser with wich you can compress every file on your drives C: and D:
But this is useless anyway. JPG images cannot be compressed any further by the ZIP-algorithm, it only makes sense for BMPs...

[quote="kobe24"]
I would think also that the reason why Stacker decompresses faster is that it still needs to be tested. sdouble used to decompress apps faster but later on, they included some failsafe funtionalities, then decompression was a bit delayed.
[/quote]
This is true, but the "emergency rollback" function of Stacker also seems to run fine. I have had no problem with it yet...

[quote="kobe24"]
Since Stacker boasts for multi tasking, then this allows other factors for errors. Multi tasking is a difficult thing to do especially if you have other applications that you want to run, that has not been tested with Stacker. This means that some temporary files, or common libraries may at times lock up.
[/quote]
Forget the multitasking functionality! While compressing/uncompressing the phone gets so slow that you really cannot do anything useful with it in the meantime. It is only a marketing argument, I think 😉

[quote="tiger42"]
Stacker compresses a slight little bit better than Space Doubler but it
is not able to compress the data of Java MIDlets, so all in all the saved
disk space is the same with both programs.[/quote]

I think it doesn't worth it. Java apps are already compressed, only one thing to compress is Java ini's. Do you think that it will be worth to save 0.5-1Kb (if you have many java apps are installed)
if the price will be the always-in-memory module that runs always and starts automatically when the system boots? Stacker doesn't have such modules that wastes device MEMORY, moreover Stacker even gives you more memory by compressing the memory in background like AppMan and SeleQ does but Stacker does it automatically when any compressed application starts or finishes.

[quote="kobe24"]
I would assume that both applications can do what it boasts.
I would also consider the technical support for your application.
PsiLoc has done a good job on tech support. How about Stacker?
That I don't know.
I would think also that the reason why Stacker decompresses faster is that
it still needs to be tested. sdouble used to decompress apps faster
but later on, they included some failsafe funtionalities, then decompression
was a bit delayed.
[/quote]

We test and optimize our applications very careful before releasing
them to public.

[quote="kobe24"]
I would like to see the Half page status of what's happening when I open
my application. At least I know what happens.
[/quote]

You know what happens. When Stacker compresses something or decompresses you can
see small, neat progress bar (btw, much more smooth)
in the bottom of the screen, and we show the operation in colour for not to waste the screen space, the blue colour - decompressing operation, red one - compressing.

[quote="kobe24"]
Since Stacker boasts for multi tasking, then this allows other factors
for errors. Multi tasking is a difficult thing to do especially if you have
other applications that you want to run, that has not been tested
with Stacker. This means that some temporary files, or common libraries
may at times lock up.
[/quote]

Only one thing I can say, is that both programs bring quite similar
functionality but they are very different inside and moreover use very
different approaches.

[quote="kobe24"]
Not sure about this last one, but PsiLoc is an AAS member, and reads through
AAS for your problems. How about Stacker??? 😃[/quote]

If you have any idea of how we can do the program better your feedback
will be highly appreciated, you can email us or post it here, we browse
this forum several times a day.

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If you want to see full Stacker description you can find it here:
http://www.symbianware.com/product.php?id=stacker60&lang=en&pl=all&s=0

P.s. Please don't compress Stacker packed applications with
SpaceDoubler and vice versa. Results can be unpredictable.

I heared there is a program called Smartcompress any one tried it? and can u please compare it with staker and space doubler?
i want to buy one of those three... but cant seem to decide ... so if anyone there who tried all three can tell me once and for all .. which one is better!

You don't need to compare SmartCompress and Stacker. Stacker is highly upgraded SmartCompress version, so for all SmartCompress users upgrade to Stacker is free.

Hi,

Here is small update of Stacker. If you have tried SmartCompress before, you might see Trial period is over message when starting Stacker (because the Stacker is next version of SmartCompress)

If so you can try this version. Now Stacker has its own trial period, so you have 15 more days to test it.

http://www.symbianware.com/download/stacker60/stacker60.sis

[quote="Hera"][quote="tiger42"]
Stacker compresses a slight little bit better than Space Doubler but it
is not able to compress the data of Java MIDlets, so all in all the saved
disk space is the same with both programs.[/quote]

I think it doesn't worth it. Java apps are already compressed, only one thing to compress is Java ini's. Do you think that it will be worth to save 0.5-1Kb (if you have many java apps are installed)[/quote]

On my phone the compression of the Java data saved more than 10k with only 4 installed Java apps! Anyway, I don't think that it is that important... I've registered both Stacker and Space Doubler, but I've only installed Stacker, because it is really better.

[quote="tiger42"][quote="Hera"][quote="tiger42"]
Stacker compresses a slight little bit better than Space Doubler but it
is not able to compress the data of Java MIDlets, so all in all the saved
disk space is the same with both programs.[/quote]

I think it doesn't worth it. Java apps are already compressed, only one thing to compress is Java ini's. Do you think that it will be worth to save 0.5-1Kb (if you have many java apps are installed)[/quote]

On my phone the compression of the Java data saved more than 10k with only 4 installed Java apps! Anyway, I don't think that it is that important... I've registered both Stacker and Space Doubler, but I've only installed Stacker, because it is really better.[/quote]

so bro STACKER WINS!!!!LOL!!! 😃 😃