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IS it me or it the GPS crap on the n95 ?

13 replies · 4,417 views · Started 15 April 2007

fragmasterkarl wrote:IS it me or it the GPS crap on the n95 ?

I find the GPS receiver is almost as good as the Bluetooth TomTom MKII

I think the free Nokia MAPS software is OK, but not a patch on TomTom.

which of the above do you think is crap?

Lets hope there are options from specialist companies like Route 66 , TomTom available soon. I would also prefer to pay single payment rather than a subscription

I think the GPS in the phone gets better over time. There are significant chunks of data that have to be recieved from the satallites considering the extremely low bandwidth provided by the downlink. Originally my TTL was terrible, but now I usually see a lock in around 20/30 seconds.

I've even been able to leave the GPS data app running on the phone, close the keypad and shove it in my rucksack while cycling and it still maintained the connection the entire trip, recording distance and speeds. All while playing music through the headset - bloody useful bit of kit!

I've not had any problem with the maps app. It plotted the same route between mine (Maidstone, Kent, England) and Alton Towers that my £300 Garmin Satnav system did. I didn't try the guidence (it was an expensive day, couldn't justify the cost) but at least the route finding is sound. Routed correctly to the office in Canary Wharf as well.

i think in real world term - for the average user
the GPS is indeed crap. as it dosent work out of the box
without resorting to the internet and explainations of why its crap.

i can never get a lock in central london - you know where you might actually need it! bu tthe maps app is great. its no biggy for me as it was a nice extra that turned out to be a bit useless. but anyone buying the phone just for the gps will be disappointed.

I agree Maps is pretty crap, but the GPS receiver is pretty good. It's a Sirf II LP chip.

The Sirf II is a Low Power chip and sacrifices a few channels (most not required anyway), accuracy and acquisition time in order to preserve the battery.

If it had a Sirf III chip, used in TomTom units and most of the best GPS devives, the phone would be dead in no time.

If Nokia had used a higher spec GPS chipset, people would be moaning about the 2 hours battery life, if not less considering what else the phone has to do at the same time.

People around here need to get some skills and knowledge before spouting nonsense and not understand the technology.

You can't have you cake and eat it, this is a small all in one device. The GPS cant be as good as a dedicated GPS unit, just like the camera is not as good as a proper camera.

Better software will make this phone shine.

autopilot wrote:I agree Maps is pretty crap, but the GPS receiver is pretty good. It's a Sirf II LP chip.

The Sirf II is a Low Power chip and sacrifices a few channels (most not required anyway), accuracy and acquisition time in order to preserve the battery.

If it had a Sirf III chip, used in TomTom units and most of the best GPS devives, the phone would be dead in no time.

If Nokia had used a higher spec GPS chipset, people would be moaning about the 2 hours battery life, if not less considering what else the phone has to do at the same time.

People around here need to get some skills and knowledge before spouting nonsense and not understand the technology.

You can't have you cake and eat it, this is a small all in one device. The GPS cant be as good as a dedicated GPS unit, just like the camera is not as good as a proper camera.

Better software will make this phone shine.

Could someone give me a hand and let me know, how can i get TomTom 6 for my N95 pls???? I live in Australia and i find the GPS software that come with my N95 is not that good... As it takes a long time to accuracy and acquisition for a satellie........ pls help

minglau770 wrote:Could someone give me a hand and let me know, how can i get TomTom 6 for my N95 pls???? I live in Australia and i find the GPS software that come with my N95 is not that good... As it takes a long time to accuracy and acquisition for a satellie........ pls help

Buy a TomTom... Putting the TomTom software on the phone isn't going to make it a better signal receiver, c'mon a retarded monkey would know that.

LouieCoop wrote:Buy a TomTom... Putting the TomTom software on the phone isn't going to make it a better signal receiver, c'mon a retarded monkey would know that.

When you are done evolving, then come speak to me.

Could someone out there who knows how to use their aposable thumb offer any sort of assistance please?

LouieCoop is being very rude but is essentially correct, the quality of the GPS receiver in the N95 is what it is and software won't improve its accuracy or speed. A Nokia firmware update may do but you will just have to wait for one. There is a sticky thread on this forum about it so keep an eye on that for new firmware and what it changes/improves.

Incidentally it does get better with more use. The first time I started the GPS it took at least 5 minutes to get a fix, now it takes around 1 minute from cold.

dez_borders wrote:I find the GPS receiver is almost as good as the Bluetooth TomTom MKII

I think the free Nokia MAPS software is OK, but not a patch on TomTom.

which of the above do you think is crap?

Glad you said that, how do you pair up the built in GPS with TOMTOM?? thanks

3Shirts wrote:LouieCoop is being very rude but is essentially correct, the quality of the GPS receiver in the N95 is what it is and software won't improve its accuracy or speed. A Nokia firmware update may do but you will just have to wait for one. There is a sticky thread on this forum about it so keep an eye on that for new firmware and what it changes/improves.

Incidentally it does get better with more use. The first time I started the GPS it took at least 5 minutes to get a fix, now it takes around 1 minute from cold.

Thanks for the Info 3Shirts......

Its just I was told by a few phone store people, that it may be the Nokia's GPS software that is not working well thats all... I know the N95 needs a new Firmware also... I didn't mind trying to run TomTom and see how it goes also.....

That's always the best way, try it yourself. Remember though, the current version on TomTom doesn't aupport internal GPS, you'll need a bluetooth one or to wait until TomTom pull their finger out and release an update!