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dissapointing - N95

31 replies · 5,863 views · Started 06 May 2007

So much has been invested in this phone...it's so rich in advanced features.

But when it comes to simple features...it's so dissapointing.

The most basic functions like writing a SMS is so difficult....it takes more than 10 clicks before you even start writing the message.

First, you can't set the inbox as a shortcut. That's stupid! Sonyericson, samsung, treo...and I'm sure a lot more of them, can set the inbox as a shortcup. And symbian, which has like 70% of the smartphone software market, can't get this one little feature right.

Second, there are no recent or most used contacts. It's unbelivable, but you have to go Contacts everytime I wanna write someone. Every phone i've had in the last 10 years has had this function..but somehow such an advanced phone like N95 omitts it. It's amazing to me.

Thirdly, the call log doesn't have a tab with ALL phone calls. It has three tabs and the last one is Missed calls. Most other phone, once you click Talk button it shows all the numbers. You can see your dialed and missed all in one list. that's easy! I have to click 4 times before I get the missed call list. Its so backwards.

Very dissapointed with the software.

Selling my N95.

I don't know how you get 10 clicks to start writing a text message, i use a shortcut to do it in about 2/3.

I guess it's what you get used to to be fair, I've occationally tried SE's and WM devices in the past when i've fancied a change from symbian, only to be left feeling like you. Can't wait to get back to symbian and ditching the others like hot cakes. Once you get used to an OS, familiarity becomes your friend. Personally i could easily forgive the N95 for a few extra button taps considering it's abilities. As i said though, each to their own!!

I have no idea what you are doing. I can get to the messages menu in a single click and could set up a short cut to go direct to "New Message" also in single click.

yep, the first thing I do with any s60 phone is change the left hand short-cut key to 'New SMS' so that I can do it in 1 click.

SMS - put New Message as an Active Standby shortcut and you get there in one click or assign it to one of the two shortcut keys. If you dont like Active Standby, turn it off and assign New Message to one of your D Pad directions and again get it in a single click. You cant actually set Inbox correct, but you can set Messaging so you can get to the Inbox from there in 2 clicks.

It doesnt have recent contacts within SMS, but if you regularly call the same people as you text, you can click the Green key to bring up the recent called list, then select Options - Create Message from there.

As to your third part, look in LifeBlog as it records EVERYTHING you do with the phone, all calls, all messages plus other things, all in one list.

On the third point my log seems to behave rather differently.

I access the log via an active standby shortcut and the log has two tabs, on the first there are 3 items recent call this gives a sub menu with 3 items missed, received and dialled.

Going back to the original menu the second tab is a list of all calls, messages and connections.

Did your phone come with a manual?

catalin.iuga wrote:
Second, there are no recent or most used contacts. It's unbelivable, but you have to go Contacts everytime I wanna write someone. Every phone i've had in the last 10 years has had this function..but somehow such an advanced phone like N95 omitts it. It's amazing to me.

You do know that you can just type the persons name in the "To:" box, or a part of the name and it will check who you want to send the message to!
Thats one of my favourite features

Hmmm, I only got my latest N95 yesterday afternoon so it hasnt really populated anything in the blog yet, but Im sure the one I had for a week or so from T Mobile recorded calls / texts etc in one list. Maybe someone who has had a phone for a bit longer can clarify.

Edit - Sorry it was Log I was thinking of, not lifeblog. :redface:
As mentioned by Bullroar, if you actually go into Log from the menu (as opposed to hitting the green button), you do get additional views, one which gives you a list of all calls / sms / WLAN (basically all connections I guess) in one list.

catalin.iuga@gm wrote:

The most basic functions like writing a SMS is so difficult....it takes more than 10 clicks before you even start writing the message.

With the defult N95 setup, Messages is the left soft key. Therefore you can be begin writing your SMS message in 4 clicks (Messages-> New Message -> Test Message -> Down-Arrow)

If you set one of the Active Standby keys to be New Text Message then you can reduce the number of clicks to 2.

catalin.iuga@gm wrote:
Very dissapointed with the software.

If this is your first Nokia handset, then perhaps you need time to adjust to the differences from other manufacturers menu systems, and also read the manual to see how you can adjust the menu / GUI to suit your own preferences. 😉

catalin.iuga@gm wrote:
Selling my N95.

If you're in the UK send me a private message with your selling price. 😉

catalin.iuga312558 wrote:So much has been invested in this phone...it's so rich in advanced features.

But when it comes to simple features...it's so dissapointing.

why don't you try reading the manual? 😉

Its defo what you you are used to. I've come from Windows Mobile and now the N95 is set up I'd say I can do most things as easily as I could before.

The one single thing that slightly annoys me is that when searching through contacts the T-9 doesn't work meaning double and tripple presses of bottons. But I can live with it!

Yeh, I do find it a bit odd that Nokia chose to only allow certain input methods (ie not T9) in certain areas of the phone. I know they turn it off in areas where T9 generally isnt an advantage (ie when inputting names / email addresses etc), but you can switch between capitals or lower case anyway so why not just allow T9 as well, the same as in text messages and let the end user chose.

Yeah, there are plenty of things that disappoint me about the N95, loads of missed opportunities. But i find it great for txt/calls.

If you pay $800 for a phone and it has all of these advanced features, wouldn't you expected at least get the basics right?

Check the software from Treo 700, or SonyEricson K800i, or the Samsung D900...they have the basics down.

Before I start typing the message, it takes me 9 clicks...all because it doesn't have couple essential features, like most Recent contacts and Inbox as a shortcut.

These are essential and they have them in many phones.

What about the SMS in chat format?

These are essential to be on the move fast. Ya I can take a killer picture but it takes a lot longer and more attention to send SMS.

Anyways, I'm not attacking any of you guys, and I'm just saying that there are some essential oversights.

That's all...

Thanks for listening.

Cat

I have some gripes too, I know that changing OS and even a phone can leave you wanting your older model, especially since we're british and we hate change..... But,

I used to use PDAs, O2s XDA exec was fab but very large, cumbersome and rather embarassing to take a call on. Anyway, my most recent was the latest communicator. the 9300i. Took me a while to lose the touch screen function but loved the keyboard (except for lack of lighting on the keys, very stupid)

Anyway, I digress, I know that the 9300 is a business phone but N95 (if I'm correct) is a later OS than the 9300i and the phone is far more advanced, even the chipset.

I wish they'd have kept these simple features

1) scheduled sending of text messages. Very handy feature.

2) copy and paste functions

3) the ability to copy/paste or import old text messages (and more stuff) into the folder of the new phone.

4 )html readable e-mails

5) Features that Windows pocket pc had (prior to windows mobile)
The ability to chose more calender entries to be displayed on the active screen.

Finally, I do feel I've been slightly duped into getting this phone as the GPS sucks big time. It has little to no use as it is so poor in reception and speed. My tomtom Bluetooth was worlds better in 2003 on my XDAii. This is a hot topic so I won't go on but GPS is a primary function of this phone yet it is the main let down, especially the subscription to use it and the continued request to connect to a server to re-plan a route. I can't wait for tomtom to send out a micro SD card with software for this phone. Just hope the gps keeps its signal.

With all of the above said and my heartache (and finger ache) of getting used to a non qwerty board. I am thoroughly excited and pleased with this phone.

The camera is amazing (truly is) and I aim to keep it and cherish the joy of owning this fab gadget phone. I've waited since December for this and although some things tick me off, the better things outway that which makes me a hapy customer - overall.

Sorry for such a long drawn out post. Cheers. And if I can get the n95 to do anything I've complained about (even with addon software) I would really love to hear about it.

How to copy and paste data on your S60 device
1. Position the cursor to the left or right of some text you'd like to copy.

2. While holding down the Edit button, move the cursor key over the text to highlight it.

Thanks so much. That is tremendous. It even works to select loads of messages that you want to bulk delete (mainly junk e-mail) I thought I'd lost that speeday function but now I can clear my spam in the proper way.

Cheers!!

One question, I have the O2 branded 95, noticed someone mentioned they had push to talk. This could be turned off with O2, in which case I may consider a code change and upgrade.

Just incase, where abouts is the ptt app in the phone?

Many thanks

It is in the tools folder...but it wasn't there before I unbranded my phone. Unfortunately, my network doesn't support it, but yours should.

Cat

I was surprised there was no silent mode via the hash key but I found out that the new firmware has activated it so I can't moan I'm very happy with the N95
Bill

Alun118 wrote:I have some gripes too, I know that changing OS and even a phone can leave you wanting your older model, especially since we're british and we hate change..... But,

I used to use PDAs, O2s XDA exec was fab but very large, cumbersome and rather embarassing to take a call on. Anyway, my most recent was the latest communicator. the 9300i. Took me a while to lose the touch screen function but loved the keyboard (except for lack of lighting on the keys, very stupid)

Anyway, I digress, I know that the 9300 is a business phone but N95 (if I'm correct) is a later OS than the 9300i and the phone is far more advanced, even the chipset.

I wish they'd have kept these simple features

1) scheduled sending of text messages. Very handy feature.

2) copy and paste functions

3) the ability to copy/paste or import old text messages (and more stuff) into the folder of the new phone.

4 )html readable e-mails

5) Features that Windows pocket pc had (prior to windows mobile)
The ability to chose more calender entries to be displayed on the active screen.

Finally, I do feel I've been slightly duped into getting this phone as the GPS sucks big time. It has little to no use as it is so poor in reception and speed. My tomtom Bluetooth was worlds better in 2003 on my XDAii. This is a hot topic so I won't go on but GPS is a primary function of this phone yet it is the main let down, especially the subscription to use it and the continued request to connect to a server to re-plan a route. I can't wait for tomtom to send out a micro SD card with software for this phone. Just hope the gps keeps its signal.

With all of the above said and my heartache (and finger ache) of getting used to a non qwerty board. I am thoroughly excited and pleased with this phone.

The camera is amazing (truly is) and I aim to keep it and cherish the joy of owning this fab gadget phone. I've waited since December for this and although some things tick me off, the better things outway that which makes me a hapy customer - overall.

Sorry for such a long drawn out post. Cheers. And if I can get the n95 to do anything I've complained about (even with addon software) I would really love to hear about it.

For a more advanced calendar and todo manager take a look at Aquacalendar or Papyrus. I tried both on my N73 but went back to the built in because of the integration with Active Standby.

Has anyone managed to make Mail4Exchange work on the N95? I only need it for email.

Alun118 wrote:
I wish they'd have kept these simple features

2) copy and paste functions

This function exists. Did you read the manual before posting N95 failings? 🙄

Alun118 wrote:
3) the ability to copy/paste or import old text messages (and more stuff) into the folder of the new phone.

You can already do this with the Nokia Transfer Wizard on all N-Series handsets - but admittedly Message transfers currently are only supported on 3rd Edition handsets)

Alun118 wrote:
Finally, I do feel I've been slightly duped into getting this phone as the GPS sucks big time. It has little to no use as it is so poor in reception and speed. My tomtom Bluetooth was worlds better in 2003 on my XDAii.

I have tested TomTom Navigator 6 on my N95 (using a TomTom BT GPS receiver) and it's 100% stable, and performs better for screen refresh rates than my previous N80. TomTom are currently testing a patch which will add support for the N95 internal GPS unit. Considering Nokia's MAPS application is free of charge, and an early release, I am not surprised it's a bit naff. I expect it to get better through time, but doubt it will ever beat the likes of TomTom6.

Alun118 wrote:
although some things tick me off, the better things outway that which makes me a hapy customer - overall.

Glad you are happy overall with the N95. I appreciate the stepe learning curve of moviing from a PDA to the Symbian OS. It's not perfect but it's the best Nokia handset ever released (IMHO)

latinpride613 wrote:how many incoming, outgoing, and sent texts can the N95 hold before it starts earsing messages?

If you set the Message app to use the MicroSD memory card (if you have one) then probably hundreds of 1000s of messages could be stored. However, you might find the messsages app slowing down if you have too many messages in memory. In simplistic terms, there's no specific limit on how many messages you can store.

Worst thing about the N95 is the crappy screen. Completely kills the phone for me. Iphone will probably be my next phone now. At least it will have a great screen and will be stable.

fdxd wrote:Worst thing about the N95 is the crappy screen. Completely kills the phone for me. Iphone will probably be my next phone now. At least it will have a great screen and will be stable.

Totally agree... N95 screen is disappointment... I prefer N80 or E70. For e-mail and web related things is far better.

dez_borders wrote:This function exists. Did you read the manual before posting N95 failings? 🙄

You can already do this with the Nokia Transfer Wizard on all N-Series handsets - but admittedly Message transfers currently are only supported on 3rd Edition handsets)

I have tested TomTom Navigator 6 on my N95 (using a TomTom BT GPS receiver) and it's 100% stable, and performs better for screen refresh rates than my previous N80. TomTom are currently testing a patch which will add support for the N95 internal GPS unit. Considering Nokia's MAPS application is free of charge, and an early release, I am not surprised it's a bit naff. I expect it to get better through time, but doubt it will ever beat the likes of TomTom6.

Glad you are happy overall with the N95. I appreciate the stepe learning curve of moviing from a PDA to the Symbian OS. It's not perfect but it's the best Nokia handset ever released (IMHO)

No way - the best Nokia phone ever made was the 7110 - way ahead of the game at the time of its release & I loved the scroll wheel too!
Could never understand why they didn't use its interface in any other phone.

I'm happy enough to keep using my N95, but it's not the phone it should be by a long way. Most of the people who rave about it seem to be previous N series users or treo Blackberry types. The fact is that MOST people purchasing this phone will be used to D600 & K750's & in many respects the N95 is behind these.

I'm a gadget sort of guy so for me it's still ok, but as soon as the iPhone comes out (or a better SE offering) my N95 goes up for sale - it just doesn't give me the 'wow' factor that a phone with this spec should!

Over the last few years I've tried handsets from SE, Panasonic, Motorolla, Sharpe, Panasonic, LG & Samsung (I buy all the phones for my company), so feel in a good position to give an honest appraisal.

The N95 is an OK phone that could & should have been great!