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6 weeks on. A frank n95 critique. Add yours!

40 replies · 9,310 views · Started 13 May 2007

JazzyGB1 wrote:Yes but...I didn't buy a Pc...I bought a phone!
A 'dumbphone' in my opinion is one that doesn't work properly - don't fool yourself into beleiving that you gadget laiden N95 is 'smart' as smart phones would be the ones that work properly!
I don't need 'apps' I need the apps that are already on it to work 100% properly which i they don't yet (GPS).
I am trying hard to give this phone a chance, but it needs to improve massively.
Go to your Mp3s for example find one you like & assign it to a user (oops you can't). You have to go for the contact to assign a ringtone - why?
Or try going to your file manager app and jumping halfway down the list of your installed files by pressing the 'm' key - no that doesn't work either. it's just poor implementation. I have a 2GB card in the phone & a lot of work files so this is a real pain.
And all this from a top end 'smart' phone?
Hmmmm
There would be no one happier than me if all these things were addressed, but until they are this phone is a long way off being the sum of its parts.

Which is to miss the whole point of smartphones.
The native apps are extremely basic - almost to the point of functional non-existence.
The kind of functionality you're missing is available in a host of 3rd party Symbian apps.
For the previously-stated reasons, you won't find that kind of functionality in the default apps.
I defy you to try some of them and find fault with the phone.
What you're saying is equivalent to "I don't like my Windows PC because it doesn't ship with the kind of application functionality I'm looking for".
IOW, you're criticising the lack of software - IOW, perceived value ... a subjective judgement.
You'll find what you regard as a flaw, most others here regard as the fundamental strength of smartphones.
Part of owning a smartphone is adding applicational functionality.
Wise up. 😎

Pheonix SZ wrote:Which is to miss the whole point of smartphones.
The native apps are extremely basic - almost to the point of functional non-existence.
The kind of functionality you're missing is available in a host of 3rd party Symbian apps.
For the previously-stated reasons, you won't find that kind of functionality in the default apps.
I defy you to try some of them and find fault with the phone.
What you're saying is equivalent to "I don't like my Windows PC because it doesn't ship with the kind of application functionality I'm looking for".
IOW, you're criticising the lack of software - IOW, perceived value ... a subjective judgement.
You'll find what you regard as a flaw, most others here regard as the fundamental strength of smartphones.
Part of owning a smartphone is adding applicational functionality.
Wise up. 😎

That's utter nonsense. GPS not working is not a strength.
And for the second time - I DID NOT BUY A PC - I BOUGHT A PHONE!
And as for all these 3rd party apps that will give me the functionality I'm looking for - great, please post me the links.
And as for 'smart phone'. Please show me anywhere that term is used by Nokia when describing this phone.
You go & buy a smartphone if you want. I just bought a phone that doesn't do many things as well as most 'dumb' phones do!
So wise up 😎

JazzyGB1 wrote:That's utter nonsense. GPS not working is not a strength.
And for the second time - I DID NOT BUY A PC - I BOUGHT A PHONE!
And as for all these 3rd party apps that will give me the functionality I'm looking for - great, please post me the links.
And as for 'smart phone'. Please show me anywhere that term is used by Nokia when describing this phone.
You go & buy a smartphone if you want. I just bought a phone that doesn't do many things as well as most 'dumb' phones do!
So wise up 😎

Something about the fact that you have issues with 'smart'phones and prefer 'dumb'phones doesn't surprise me. 🙄

Pheonix SZ wrote:Something about the fact that you have issues with 'smart'phones and prefer 'dumb'phones doesn't surprise me. 🙄

Thanks for the links...oh wait there isn't any.
Might I have caught you completely lying?

Prosecution rests your honour!

JazzyGB1 wrote:Thanks for the links...oh wait there isn't any.
Might I have caught you completely lying?

Prosecution rests your honour!

Last time I checked, I had 148 useful, different S60-3 apps on my HDD. 🙄

You said...
"The kind of functionality you're missing is available in a host of 3rd party Symbian apps."

I said...
"Great - please post the links'

You didn't - prosecution rests!

I'm not interested in how many s60-3 apps you have on your HD - can't remember ever asking. Another example of you totally missing the point.

I just want the apps that are on the phone to work properly & intuitively.
With the exception of GPS most of the apps that are on the N95 are also on other phones too.
Your statement of "The native apps are extremely basic - almost to the point of functional non-existence" is probably the only relevant one you have made, but I'm astounded that you think this acceptable.
My point all along has been how poorly implemented many of the N95 'features' are.
If they had been well implemented then this post would be entirely different - but they haven't & it isn't.
I'd be delighted if you'd offer any solutions to my points, but so far all you've offered is veiled insults.

The poster asked for feedback of people using the phone & I've given it - wise up 😎

I'd like to add my thoughts on the N95, I've been using for about 6 weeks having upgraded from the N80, the main reason being the bigger screen and bigger key pad. One because I've got fairly bad eyesite and big hands!

So I wasn't expecting what I got, I though I'd be using a N80 just bigger, but the actual result has been much more pleasing. Speed is much better in general usage, Which got me about the N80 (why does it still take ages to show a text message?). The basic functions are the same as the N80 which I found to be great. I've had no problems with the battery life, I have a charger at work and one at home, so im never to far away from some juice. However, the N80 chargers dont always like the N95 for some reason.

The GPS does seem a little bit of a gimmick at the moment, but still handy, specially on a recent company triip to Paris, I could tag where the coach was meeting us so didnt have to worry about getting lost! Plus being able to find car parks etc is very handy.

The camera is superb, a little on the slow side, but takes great pics. Flash isnt all that hellpful though. Video quality is something else, watching the videos back on a standard TV are just as good as watching the videos off our miniDV camera.

One thing that has got to me is the switch to open the camera lens, it opens itself whenever I slide the phone into my pocket, which is annoying, specially if I forget to close it!

Internet browsing is great too, although Orange are a pain that their 3G coverage isnt all that at the moment, with the phone constantly changing between GPRS and 3G, specially on trains. But I've heard Orange and Vodafone may soon be sharing 3G networks which will hopefully help!

Also, very few people seem to comment on the N95 as a phone! I've found voice quality to be the best of the lot, even in low signal areas. Only problem I'vve had so far is people not being able to hear me. A quick restart sorts that out though.

As for the argument thats been going on. The N95 along with most other Nseries phones are designed to be like PC's. Or nokias equivelent of Windows Mobiles. Alot of people dont want to spend hundreds on a phone to have to download, even pay for extra software. Not a problem for me as I like being able to personalise it that way. I had an SE S700i before the N80 and found the idea of putting what I want on the phone rather than what SE thought I wanted. Not taking anything away from the S700 that was a great phone.

Personaly, the problems JazzyGB1 has pointed out are fairly trivial, but can be annoying. But like I said the nseries are really desingned to be open ended, like PC's, if thats not your idea of a phone then maybe SE are better for you?

I liken it to Flight Simulator, out of the box you wonder why you spent �60 on it, yeah you get the sim, but very basic aircraft, if you want better you have to download or buy more planes. For some people it works for others, it dont!

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Also, very few people seem to comment on the N95 as a phone! I've found voice quality to be the best of the lot, even in low signal areas. Only problem I'vve had so far is people not being able to hear me. A quick restart sorts that out though.

As for the argument thats been going on. The N95 along with most other Nseries phones are designed to be like PC's. Or nokias equivelent of Windows Mobiles. Alot of people dont want to spend hundreds on a phone to have to download, even pay for extra software. Not a problem for me as I like being able to personalise it that way. I had an SE S700i before the N80 and found the idea of putting what I want on the phone rather than what SE thought I wanted. Not taking anything away from the S700 that was a great phone.

Personaly, the problems JazzyGB1 has pointed out are fairly trivial, but can be annoying. But like I said the nseries are really desingned to be open ended, like PC's, if thats not your idea of a phone then maybe SE are better for you?

I liken it to Flight Simulator, out of the box you wonder why you spent �60 on it, yeah you get the sim, but very basic aircraft, if you want better you have to download or buy more planes. For some people it works for others, it dont![/QUOTE]

Hi,
I agree that some of my points could be deemed as little or minor faults, but lots of little things add up to a lot & the fact that they could be so easily improved only adds to the frustration.

I like very much the idea of personalising a phone & by all means get Opera web browser or PDF writers or dictionaries etc, but that has never been my issue with the phone & is no excuse for the pre installed software (which you need & have paid for) performing poorly.

I've never used an N80 & maybe the N95 has come on leaps & bounds from it, but that just suggests that the N80 was a very poor phone!

A phone shouldn't be a compromise.I mean having to restart it to hear people - come on!!!
Jesus, that's the fundamental function of any phone & simply dismissing this flaw as nothing is astonishing - IT'S EVERYTHING!

The SE700 is three years old now so it's not really a fair comparison, but by God I'd have hated that phone (I had one prior to my W900) if it had suffered from half the ailments that the N95 does.

99% of people use mobile phones to send & receive voice calls & text messages.

You just mentioned people not being able to hear you & the N95 doesn't even date sms without viewing a seperate windos (6 clicks away), so you couls argue the N95 fails at doing the most fundamental of phone tasks well at all.

I'm sticking with this phone anyway as I wanted a change, but instead of thinking 'wow' every time I pick up this �500 handset I think ''aaagh'!

I really hope the iPhone lives up to the hype because at the moment the N95 doesn't which is a shame as it's close to being a fantastic fone.

instead its an ok phone with poorly implemented fantastic features! :frown:

You know what? Just give it back if you are not comfortable with it.

I personally think you are the kind of person that can never be satisfied. You are unfortunately NOT somewhere in the middle of the Gaussian distribution. This means that mass market can not satisfy you. Be proud if it if you want, or whatever...

PM

Im hoping the no sound problem is sorted in the firmware update, something I haven't done yet. It is certainly a manjor downer, but I can live with it, its a once every few week problem, not a daily one. The phone more than makes up for it in other areas, like having my emails on tap.

I believe the text message thing is common to the nseries, I dont remember my N80 telling me date or time of texts.

But like I said, those things are not so major to me. The good things more than our weigh the bad things.