Read-only archive of the All About Symbian forum (2001–2013) · About this archive

found an n95

25 replies · 7,264 views · Started 31 May 2007

i've found an n95 lying in the park on my way home. typical, just like a bus!! wait 3 months for the phone now i have 2! theres a crack on the screen, well, a big scratch and its quite badly "bruised" shall we say...anyway, it seems to be blocked...is there any way to unblock it? its probably blocked because someone lost it and theyll have a new one so theres no point handing it to police...(trying to make myself feel better about it!) haha

are the unlock cables on ebay any good and do they work?

cheers

gritbox wrote:i've found an n95 lying in the park on my way home. typical, just like a bus!! wait 3 months for the phone now i have 2! theres a crack on the screen, well, a big scratch and its quite badly "bruised" shall we say...anyway, it seems to be blocked...is there any way to unblock it?
cheers

The blocking is registered against the handset serial (IMEI) number so the only way to unblock the handset would be to change the IMEI number. This is highly illegal in Europe and you may go to prison if caught. I suggest you either hand the phone in to the police or put it back in the park where you found it.

Sorry if the above seems harsh but you seriously could get into trouble. 😉

Yes, forget trying to unblock it as you are likely to go to prison for it if caught. Besides, it's completely immoral to keep it, hand it in asap. You might as well as the screen is generally the only part of any phone worth any real money, you won't get much for it at all.

Do the decent thing and try and get it back to the owner. It might contain important data and might not be insured. In some cases the network can unblock it when it gets back to the owner. It will give you a warm feeling inside 😊

haha och! whats an imei number!??! prison eh? hmm...ive been watchin prison break for 2 seasons, i know how to break out if i get put in! haha

nah ok suppose id best hand it in then eh!!

Is it branded? If so call the operator and explain that you've found it, hand it into your local police station and get a reference number (give the reference to the network).
Edit: If not branded, get the sim card and sim card number - the operator will then know who's it is.

If/when nobody claims it after a certain amount of time (ask at the desk in the police station how long this is) you will be allowed to collect and keep it.

At which point call the operator back and explain nobody has claimed it and see if they'll unblock it for you?

Guilt free, free phone :icon14:

Neil

Nice idea, but it wont work. The network can claim ownership. There is also a posibility they wont return it to the owner. You could try putting the SIM into another phone. Its probably blocked but you might be able to get a number from the cntacts and call "mum" to find the owner.

neilmallon wrote:Is it branded? If so call the operator and explain that you've found it, hand it into your local police station and get a reference number (give the reference to the network).
Edit: If not branded, get the sim card and sim card number - the operator will then know who's it is.

If/when nobody claims it after a certain amount of time (ask at the desk in the police station how long this is) you will be allowed to collect and keep it.

At which point call the operator back and explain nobody has claimed it and see if they'll unblock it for you?

Guilt free, free phone :icon14:

Neil

I found someones phone and checked the phone book for 'home' then I rang them up and offered them there phone back! They where a bit rude at first shouting down the phone at me, so I hung up and rang them back later, this time they spoke to me with respect and they got the phone back.
Go on give it back!

Probably going to gt flamed back, but is the origina message for real or what?

Found it in a park, but wont hand it to police, so can I unlock it....yeah right! More like its been bought for a tenner in a local bar/pub and i cant figure it out to use it myself?? Maybe im just too cynical these days!

Trying to unlock it sounds fishier than a weekend eating haddock in grimsby to me, either give it to the local law enforcement guys in your part of the world, or just take it to an auhorised network dealer, they'll track it back...

Stevie_nottm wrote:Probably going to gt flamed back, but is the origina message for real or what?

Found it in a park, but wont hand it to police, so can I unlock it....yeah right! More like its been bought for a tenner in a local bar/pub and i cant figure it out to use it myself?? Maybe im just too cynical these days!

Trying to unlock it sounds fishier than a weekend eating haddock in grimsby to me, either give it to the local law enforcement guys in your part of the world, or just take it to an auhorised network dealer, they'll track it back...

Agreed.

well thats a bit harsh guys!

you all must be over 40, had a few mental beatings and are therefore just too cynical for your own good!

Well someones age shouldn't be a qualifying factor on whether or not you are a thief.

Unless of course you assume that it is perfectly OK for anyone under 40 to steal, or be dishonest, or to have no morality?

Stevie_nottm wrote:Probably going to gt flamed back, but is the origina message for real or what?

Found it in a park, but wont hand it to police, so can I unlock it....yeah right! More like its been bought for a tenner in a local bar/pub and i cant figure it out to use it myself?? Maybe im just too cynical these days!

Trying to unlock it sounds fishier than a weekend eating haddock in grimsby to me, either give it to the local law enforcement guys in your part of the world, or just take it to an auhorised network dealer, they'll track it back...

N95 for a tenner......come on be serious now.
And if you really dont know how to work a phone you found you can easily just work it out yourself or download the manual from the internet.

I cant see why people are making such a fuss over this,people lose phones everyday,other people find them,keep them or hand them in,i bet most people keep the phones!
I paid alot of money for my N95 and i keep it safe and close to me at all times.
If you lose a top of the range phone in a park then you dont really deserve to have the phone in the first place or anything else of a substantial amount for that matter!

gritbox wrote:i've found an n95 lying in the park on my way home. typical, just like a bus!! wait 3 months for the phone now i have 2! theres a crack on the screen, well, a big scratch and its quite badly "bruised" shall we say...anyway, it seems to be blocked...is there any way to unblock it? its probably blocked because someone lost it and theyll have a new one so theres no point handing it to police...(trying to make myself feel better about it!) haha

are the unlock cables on ebay any good and do they work?

cheers

This all sounds very familiar to me... Same person ? Hmmmm, maybe me thinks.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum//forum/thread/60078/

Well I am no detective (but I am an English teacher) and there are a lot of striking similarities in the grammar punctuation and capitalisation etc. in the way he writes.

Not saying that means much - but in any case, yes one phone is lucky - but 2 phones, well you wouldn't have to be a genius to work out what's going on.

Don't people have to register their IP address when they register for this forum?

I am pretty sure people do find phones and keep them, but very few have the brazen audacity to come on forums like this and admit to it.

Men with hearts? sounds like me, i did the same, i seen a phone in this clothes shop called bank, the phone was lying next some shoes displayed on the shelves, at the time i thought wonderful a new fone for free, but then i thought beyond that, what comes around goes around. as i picked up the handset i did not hand it in to any of the shop assistants. i walked out with the phone...........................:icon14: :icon14:

But then the phone started ringing, so i answered it and said im out the bank come and get your phone, the man was there in 2 minutes as he had just left the shop forgetting his phone, (he rang off his daughters phone, who appeared to be very attractive, but no i didnt get rewarded...........😮

but anyway the man thanked me alot, i said no worries, and off he trotted along, and yes i did feel a better person, and the reason i did not hand it to any of the shop assistants is because they probably would have kept the phone........................

i know its a gay story........but its got some relevance to a nokia phone.

but anyway does anyone know how much the sat nav software costs? and wat companies are providing this????

😎 :redface: :tongue:

raid517 wrote:Well I am no detective (but I am an English teacher) and there are a lot of striking similarities in the grammar punctuation and capitalisation etc. in the way he writes.

Not saying that means much - but in any case, yes one phone is lucky - but 2 phones, well you wouldn't have to be a genius to work out what's going on.

Don't people have to register their IP address when they register for this forum?

I am pretty sure people do find phones and keep them, but very few have the brazen audacity to come on forums like this and admit to it.

Also both users have very low post counts. Not that it means anything necessarily (a lot of people join up here for one specific issue) but it might indicate a duplicate user. Can a mod check the IP and see if both users are the same

gritbox wrote:i've found an n95 lying in the park on my way home. typical, just like a bus!! wait 3 months for the phone now i have 2! theres a crack on the screen, well, a big scratch and its quite badly "bruised" shall we say...anyway, it seems to be blocked...is there any way to unblock it? its probably blocked because someone lost it and theyll have a new one so theres no point handing it to police...(trying to make myself feel better about it!) haha

are the unlock cables on ebay any good and do they work?

cheers

If you live in the UK and have not handed the phone in, you are already guilty of an offence know as "theft by finding" you are just asking for trouble if you try to unblock it as well. Hand it in, you would hope someone would if it was your phone that had got lost

kulveer wrote:Men with hearts? sounds like me, i did the same, i seen a phone in this clothes shop called bank, the phone was lying next some shoes displayed on the shelves, at the time i thought wonderful a new fone for free, but then i thought beyond that, what comes around goes around. as i picked up the handset i did not hand it in to any of the shop assistants. i walked out with the phone...........................:icon14: :icon14:

But then the phone started ringing, so i answered it and said im out the bank come and get your phone, the man was there in 2 minutes as he had just left the shop forgetting his phone, (he rang off his daughters phone, who appeared to be very attractive, but no i didnt get rewarded...........😮

but anyway the man thanked me alot, i said no worries, and off he trotted along, and yes i did feel a better person, and the reason i did not hand it to any of the shop assistants is because they probably would have kept the phone........................

i know its a gay story........but its got some relevance to a nokia phone.

but anyway does anyone know how much the sat nav software costs? and wat companies are providing this????

😎 :redface: :tongue:

Its not a bad thing to be a good person. Too many people don't care these days.

p.s.... try not to use gay as a derogatory term, its childish.

Orophin Anwarunya wrote:p.s.... try not to use gay as a derogatory term, its childish.

No it isn't. This is a widespread current usage of the word amongst young people, it's just a development in the language. Just as the word evolved from meaning 'happy' or 'carefree' to mean 'homosexual', it has evolved further to mean 'rubbish' or 'lame'.

3Shirts wrote:No it isn't. This is a widespread current usage of the word amongst young people, it's just a development in the language. Just as the word evolved from meaning 'happy' or 'carefree' to mean 'homosexual', it has evolved further to mean 'rubbish' or 'lame'.

Sorry but you are totaly wrong, GAY actualy stands for Good As You. It was a term coined by Male Homosexuals who felt they were seen as being less than men by the heterosexual majority.

I laugh loudest at the young guys struggling around in trousers so baggy they have to hold them up, This fashion orginated in the railway yards of the USA during the great depression, when male prostitutes used to wear very baggy trousers 1. as a form of identification 2. as a more convenient style to pull down and back up without having to do them and belt back up if they were disturbed during what was then an illegal act.

How do you all manage to get it all so wrong

meanwhile back on topic....:icon2:

found in a park my arse (pardon my bluntness, work isn't fun today)

There are no genuine reasons to change an IMEI, hence the hefty fines. stop being a pikey.

haahaha, must laugh again at 'found in the park'. Maybe i'll find a Maserati in my front garden on the way home...

/slap

nitro fan wrote:
How do you all manage to get it all so wrong

🙄

LOL, i think you will find it's you that's wrong.

Gay did originally mean Happy or Carefree, everyone knows that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay


The primary meaning of the word gay has changed dramatically during the 20th century—though the change evolved from earlier usages. It derives via the Old French gai, probably from a Germanic source.[1] The word originally meant "carefree", "happy", or "bright and showy" and was very commonly used with this meaning in speech and literature. For example, the title of the 1938 ballet aptly named Gaîté Parisienne ("Parisian Gaiety"😉, a patchwork compiled from Jacques Offenbach's operettas, illustrates this connotation.
Look up gay in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

The word started to acquire sexual connotations in the late 17th century, being used with meaning "addicted to pleasures and dissipations". This was by extension from the primary meaning of "carefree": implying "uninhibited by moral constraints". By the late nineteenth century the term "gay life" was a well-established euphemism for prostitution and other forms of extramarital sexual behavior that were perceived as immoral.

The first name Gay is still occasionally encountered, usually as a female name although the spelling is often altered to Gaye. (795th most common in the United States, according to the 1990 US census[2]). It was also used as a male first name. The first name of the popular male Irish television presenter Gabriel Byrne was always abbreviated as "Gay", as in the title of his radio show The Gay Byrne Show. It can also be used as a short form of the female name Gaynell and as a short form of the male names Gaylen and Gaylord. The "Gaiety" was also a common name for places of entertainment. One of Oscar Wilde's favourite venues in Dublin was the Gaiety Theatre; he first appeared there in 1884.[citation needed]

Development of modern usage

The use of gay to mean homosexual was in origin merely an extension of the word's sexualised connotation of "carefree and uninhibited", which implied a willingness to disregard conventional or respectable sexual mores. Such usage is documented as early as the 1920s. It was initially more commonly used to imply heterosexually unconstrained lifestyles, as for example in the once-common phrase "gay Lothario",[3] or in the title of the book and film The Gay Falcon (1941), which concerns a womanizing detective whose first name is "Gay". Well into the mid 20th century a middle-aged bachelor could be described as "gay" without any implication of homosexuality. This usage could apply to women too. The British comic strip Jane was first published in the 1930s and described the adventures of Jane Gay. Far from implying homosexuality, it referred to her freewheeling lifestyle with plenty of boyfriends (while also punning on Lady Jane Grey).

As for Good As You, that's an urban myth.


It has been claimed that "gay" is an acronym of "Good As You"[citation needed], but this is a backronym (based on false etymology).

As for it being offensive;


When used with a derisive attitude (e.g. "that was so gay"😉, the word gay is pejorative. The Times (June 6, 2006, p.3) comments that while retaining its other meanings, it has also acquired "a widespread current usage" amongst young people, to mean "lame" (also an epithet for a marginalised group, namely disabled people) or "rubbish". This pejorative usage has its origins in the late 1970s, when homosexuality was more widely seen as negative by a majority of people. Beginning in the 1980s and especially in the late 1990s, the usage as a generic insult became common among young people, who may or may not link the term to homosexuality, especially when directed at inanimate objects. This practice is frowned upon in some communities that seek to ensure respect for people of all sexual orientations, and is considered by some to be on par with ethnic slurs. Many defenders of the word's pejorative usage choose to spell it "ghey" to avoid any sexual connotations. Critics object to this change of spelling, often comparing it to the use of words like "knigger" or "nigga" for nigger to evade accusations of racism.

A 2006 BBC ruling by the Board of Governors over the use of the word in this context by Chris Moyles on his Radio 1 show, "I don't want that one, it's gay", stated that:
“ The word 'gay' ... need not be offensive... or homophobic... The governors said, however, that Moyles was simply keeping up with developments in English usage. [...] The committee... was "familiar with hearing this word in this context." The governors believed that in describing a ring tone as 'gay', the DJ was conveying that he thought it was 'rubbish', rather than 'homosexual'. [...] The panel acknowledged however that this use... in a derogatory sense... could cause offence in some listeners, and counselled caution on its use.

I think you will find 3Shirt's was bang on the money, smart arse 😎

I would also like to point out that i have 3 "gay" mates. Neither find the use of the word to be offensive in that context. One often uses it that way himself, as do i without offending anyone. That said, if i felt i would offend someone, fair enough i would not use it - some people do have a chip on their shoulder. nitro fan?

Autopilot

Not a smart arse, just correct! Wikipedia, so what they get plenty wrong!
I was complaining about people using phrases to do others down! No chips here mate only those you would perhaps like to see??

nitro fan wrote:Autopilot

Not a smart arse, just correct! Wikipedia, so what they get plenty wrong!
I was complaining about people using phrases to do others down! No chips here mate only those you would perhaps like to see??

Wikipedia can be wrong, thats true, but the fact that the Board Of Governers investigated Chris Moyles' use of the word and concluded it was a legitimate modern use of the word is irrefutable.

If you will not accept Wikipedia as a valid source, perhaps you will pay heed to Answers.com who use, as their sources, 180 trusted reference titles:

Answers.com wrote:
* Gay is used as an adjective to describe sexual orientation and is usually chosen instead of homosexual as an identity label.
* Gay sex is used to describe sexual acts between or among people of the same sex or gender, regardless of their sexual orientation.
* Gay is used to describe the "gay community" by both insiders and the mainstream media.
* Gay is sometimes used to describe an object of particular flamboyance or camp.
* Gay can be used as a throw-away, nondescript, derogatory comment towards a person or object. (Ex: That movie was so gay!)