Here's another big piece of news. Nokia has finally revealed the second half of its Mac OS connectivity strategy, with the release of Nokia Media Transfer 1.0 beta, adding to the existing iSync plugins with full sync of your iTunes music and videos, and your iPhoto images, to your S60 smartphone. There's full file transfer support too, for adding apps and games. Cool, cool, cool..... (via Tommi)
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3 weeks until the iPhone. WTF cares anymore.
Does Nokia realise that their other S60 phones (um, like the E-series) can play music, games, videos, etc? Obviously not, as this software is only designed to work with nokia-designated media-phones. Another weak attempt at trying to fix a problem..:frown:
If you're so convinced the iPhone is so great (which it quite possibly isn't), why do you visit a website devoted to Symbian phones? The iPhone will no doubt be very good at what it CAN do, it's what it CAN'T do that's going to matter to many...
The iPhoto import works fantastic with my N95 and Macbook, not bothered about testing the iTunes support (I prefer my iPod).
I hope they release it for the E-Series as well though, can't see any valid reason for it being N-Series only.
Macboy wrote:3 weeks until the iPhone. WTF cares anymore.
Exactly, WTF cares about iPhone? 😃
Ratkat wrote:I hope they release it for the E-Series as well though, can't see any valid reason for it being N-Series only.
=)juha
It does not work over BT with the E61. I have tried, and it says it is an 'unsupported phone'. Not tried via USB, but I doubt this will work either.
"If you're so convinced the iPhone is so great (which it quite possibly isn't), why do you visit a website devoted to Symbian phones?"
Yeah, I don't understand this either. Why do people come on here and actively say "no one cares about Symbian cos iPhone rulezzzz"? It's the worst kind of fanboy/fangirl activity.
"The iPhone will no doubt be very good at what it CAN do, it's what it CAN'T do that's going to matter to many..."
Exactly, it's largely meant to be an iPod replacement for people who have been using feature phones up until now. The theory is that instead of buying an iPod and a RAZR, as they do now, they'll just buy an iPhone, and for these kinds of people it will probably be a huge and welcome upgrade.
But iPhone can't possibly be a replacement for people who want a vibrant third party application ecosystem, because there will be no third party ecosystem as as iPhone is a closed platform.
Comparing the iPhone to smartphones is like comparing the (similarly-hyped) PlayStation 3 to PCs, we can see lots of overlap in what they do and how they work, but at the end of the day they're fundamentally different beasts aimed at different audiences.
Apple will release a SDK for the iPhone, to convert smaller Appps from OSX... (NYT)
So this concurrency will revive the market.
Nokia should put something like 'S60-inside' on their smartphones, so users can see the openess for 3rd party apps at a glance!
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Well, for now, no one is absolutely sure if Apple will release an SDK for the iPhone. But what is interesting is IF THEY DO. Then I wonder what reasons Symbian (or Windows Mobile, or even, maybe Linux) 'fanboys' will give for the iPhone still being a poor smartphone. IF they do release an SDK, then prepare for a rapid developer movement to move existing OSX apps over to the iPhone (within reason, I doubt it would make sense to recompile Photoshop for the phone) Either way, this is good for Apple, and for the other platforms to compete/catch-up (you pick the word) with.
"But iPhone can't possibly be a replacement for people who want a vibrant third party application ecosystem, because there will be no third party ecosystem as as iPhone is a closed platform."
The R380 versus the iPhone would be more of a like for like comparison in terms of first market entry of an operating system and device.
It was the first Symbian Phone. It was completely closed.
I think it wouldnt be wise to judge Apple based on their first market entry. Take a long look at the first enormous clunky 5GB iPod and the latest iPod family today.
We are at the beginning of Apples journey and its going to be fun whatever develops. I mean who would have thought Nokia would actually wake up to the Mac - it just shows how far Apple have come.
Bring it on!
I've just come across this news item and all I can say is
\O/ - YAY!
I can't wait to get home and slap this onto my MacBook! What a dream!
I'm just a little gutted I went and paid for that rather weak connectivity software that was recently released. Nokia may do them some damage too.
The iPhone isn't even on my radar.
"Only" two problems with this stuff with the N80:
1. Nokia USB connection is slow like ****. It's 0.5MB/s. If I plug the memory card into a USB card reader write speed is 4-5MB/s. 10 times faster.
2. The pop port is a piece of shite. I have to plug it 10 times to make a connection.
So I stay with the SyncTunes / card reader method, Image Capture/iPhoto reads pictures from the card reader as well, plus I copy other files by hand in the Finder.
So far, I'm very impressed with the OS X integration. I've only just started it up, but the USB is perfectly fine and what has really impressed me is that the albums on my N73 are maintained as Keywords in iPhoto, so at least as far as iPhoto integration is concerned, this is VERY neat stuff.
Got more playing to do and I'll report back as I find out more 😊
I tried both iPhoto and iTunes sync today with my macbook and N95, and they were working really well. Had to use bluetooth though as I didnt have a usb cable with me. It was the usual 100 kbytes per sec.
sony ericsson..are you listening?????
well done nokia for finally thinking about apple users.
They see that apple users ae increasing everyday and see a target market..whilst sony ericsson are turning a blind eye to it.(i believe isync support is coming when the p1i is launched though!)
rmtwrkr wrote:It does not work over BT with the E61. I have tried, and it says it is an 'unsupported phone'. Not tried via USB, but I doubt this will work either.
When I open Application package in Finder there is a folder containing supported devices and their profiles. Could these be hacked to recognize an E-series phone? For example E61 is S60 3rd Ed as is N73 and E90 is FP1 as is N95.
=)juha
The R380 versus the iPhone would be more of a like for like comparison in terms of first market entry of an operating system and device.It was the first Symbian Phone. It was completely closed.
I think it wouldnt be wise to judge Apple based on their first market entry. Take a long look at the first enormous clunky 5GB iPod and the latest iPod family today.
This is a good point. Unfortunately, this will go right over the heads of Apple fanboys, who think that anything that Apple offers, including the iPhone, is streets ahead of anyone else's offerings, regardless of whether this is true or not. IF the iPhone remains a closed environment, then the iPhone will not be considered by many as a true smartphone, just a particularly expensive feature phone.
And don't forget, Ericsson, unlike Apple, did NOT claim that the R380 was 5 years ahead of the opposition....
no E70 support? that sucks!
Doesn't support my 3250 at all. It does support my N73 but doesn't support iPhoto 5 either.
Altogether, pretty useless for me.
As JuhaN noticed (me too) there are mobile phone profiles inside the program (meaning it's not hardcoded).
I also notice that they've built in the ability for Nokia to release updated profiles (it downloads them from nokia.com) so future phones will get supported too. But that won't help existing phones like the E-series.
I have an E61 and out of the box that doesn't work, but by copying and modifying the N73 profile I've now got iTunes, Nokia Device Browser and (at least once) iPhoto working via both Bluetooth and USB.
The instructions to try out for other phones are on my blog (which is in my profile - can't link to it yet) and I've uploaded the E61 one here because it's so tiny.
Hope this helps...
jking_ok wrote:As JuhaN noticed (me too) there are mobile phone profiles inside the program (meaning it's not hardcoded).Thanks!!I also notice that they've built in the ability for Nokia to release updated profiles (it downloads them from nokia.com) so future phones will get supported too. But that won't help existing phones like the E-series.
I have an E61 and out of the box that doesn't work, but by copying and modifying the N73 profile I've now got iTunes, Nokia Device Browser and (at least once) iPhoto working via both Bluetooth and USB.
The instructions to try out for other phones are on my blog (which is in my profile - can't link to it yet) and I've uploaded the E61 one here because it's so tiny.
Hope this helps...
Your profile works perfect with my E61. I have to read your instructions and create a profile for E90 when I get it soon...
=)juha
Thanks for trying it Juha - now I know I put all the right bits in it when I made it. 😊
jking_ok wrote:Thanks for trying it Juha - now I know I put all the right bits in it when I made it. 😊Actually I got a slight problem while installing... I launched the installer, followed instructions, rebooted Mac but the profile didn't go to the profiles folder in library. I then just opened installer package, copied it manually and restarted the app. Then it recognized my E61 properly...
=)juha