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19 replies · 4,729 views · Started 18 July 2007

My N95 seems to have developed two minor faults. Firstly, i downloaded a few themes-didnt like them so deleted them, but 2 have refused to leave. The files are downloaded and installed on my memory card. Have gone through all the folders in detail but cannot find any info regarding the themes. Netherless-they are still on my phone and wont go away. Any idea how to get rid of them? Other than format my memory card which would be annoying.

Second fault is, i have MSN on my phone, but the hotmail feature has broken. In messages, beside the 'Windows live' option their is now a question mark symbol, and the option to check new messages has disapeared. Any ideas???

did you change theme before you "went into app manager" to remove?

if not try that.

on msn--->settings do change user and then enter user and pass. Then when it says sync email say YES and that should sort it or you could reinstall dep file

Connect the phone in Data Transfer mode.

Set your computer to view hidden files and folders.

The name of the themes on the phone are not always straightforward, sometimes they appear only as numbers. A way to identify what's what is this:
Name (or rename) any photo on your phone with the name 'delete'. Edit each theme you want to get rid of by changing the default wallpaper to the picture file called 'delete'. This causes the theme to be appended with the name of the user defined wallpaper file.

Back on your computer, search the drive letter that your phone has been allocated in My Computer for the word 'delete'. Every folder it finds is one of the themes you want to get rid of. Delete them. You may have to restart the phone but when you have the theme should have disappeared from the list. Worked for me, anyway.

I know I may not have explained that too well. See how you go and if you get stuck post again and I'll see if I can explain some more.

Two points!
Firstly, you N95 did not develop a fault! It was the software/themes you installed that cause the problem.
Secondly, never install to a mem card unless it's data, maps, sounds, photos etc. Never apps or themes or anything else.
You have experienced something that has been dogging the N95 since it was released. Badly implemented software! and I am sure that this accounts for at least 50% of so called faults.

pa49 wrote:Two points!
Firstly, you N95 did not develop a fault! It was the software/themes you installed that cause the problem.
Secondly, never install to a mem card unless it's data, maps, sounds, photos etc. Never apps or themes or anything else.
You have experienced something that has been dogging the N95 since it was released. Badly implemented software! and I am sure that this accounts for at least 50% of so called faults.

:icon13: Don't agree mate
I have all my apps and themes on my 2gb micro sd card and don't have any problem at all.

Here is how to delete themes that aren't in the app manager

You need to hook up your N95 to your PC via the USB and access the data transfer mode,and you need to make sure your file explorer can view hidden folders.
You'll find the theme filesin a folder named 'Private',in this folder are lots of other folders.Go to the folder named '10207114' and then eneter the folder inside called 'Import'
In here are all the themes on your sd card.
You have to open every folder and then look in the skn folder to find the name of the theme as the folders are named by numbers and not the theme itself,if the PC doesn't allow you to open the file then choose to open it with Notepad,then scroll across until you see the name of the theme and usually it'll say the creators name too.
Once you know it's the theme you want to delete then you have to delete the whole folder including including the mbm,mif,ini and skn folders.
Job done

mr g wrote::icon13: Don't agree mate
I have all my apps and themes on my 2gb micro sd card and don't have any problem at all.
Job done

It's not what you do it's a case of what you do it with! You only need one rogue app and that will set off the problems!
Your experience is in line with many others, but, at the same time there are many who have experienced severe issues which have been cured when the apps are removed from mem card are reinstalled on the phone. They wouldn't agree with you!
I hope you never have any crash, feeze and reset problems, but, if you do then install to phone should be your first attempt at a cure.
(a case in point is route 66 which is dreadful from mem card, fine from phone)
We are not talking right or wrong just what experiene has suggested with regard to these issues!
Plus there is no clear advantage to installing to mem card whereas there is to installing to phone mem.

Hi all,

I also agree with pa49 as although this has now been discussed in many threads it does seem quite strange that most of us that go for installing apps and themes to the phone memory don't seem to have any of the problems or have to jump through hoops to remove themes. Not of course forgetting the problems after a reformat and firmware upgrade with re installing apps and the associated problems some seem to have.

Seeing as there is close to 160mb of phone memory and even with 2 years of Calendar entries plus contacts and 3-E mail accounts, a couple of themes a ring tone and 2 message alerts, and of course all the additional apps i have installed i still have 115mb free. I still struggle to understand why people insist on using the memory card when it does appear to make things more complicated and possibly less stable and slower. But as always every one is free to do as they wish but it does seem a strange thing to do when so many seem to have problems doing it this way.

Marc

Put it my way....
I have over 100 themes on my sd card
329 songs on sd card
990 images and video's in gallery on sd card
And 6 apps on sd card

I get no problems what so ever and i don't have to jump through hoops either to delete themes!
Plug in phone,find folder,find file,delete :tongue:

Dogmann,
You put the case very well!
Mr G
I am very pleased you don't have the issues.
But, many do have issues and in my experience and with the testing I have done are caused/exacerbated by installation on the mem card.
If you have done the testing and would as a result advise users to install to mem card, I would be extremely interested in the test you have carried out.

pa49 wrote:Dogmann,
You put the case very well!
Mr G
I am very pleased you don't have the issues.
But, many do have issues and in my experience and with the testing I have done are caused/exacerbated by installation on the mem card.
If you have done the testing and would as a result advise users to install to mem card, I would be extremely interested in the test you have carried out.

Why would i want to do tests when everything works fine.

mr g wrote:Why would i want to do tests when everything works fine.

Because your posting an opinion in a forum that seems at the least to be against the evidence and if it is not then we would like to know the strength of the reasoning so we can all benefit!

I'm getting tired of this now,every phone i've had

Nokia 3650
Nokia 6600
Nokia 6630
Nokia N70
Nokia N73
Nokia N80
Nokia N95

i've put everything on the memory card/s and not had any problems on ANY of them and i'll continue to use them as my main storage for everything.
Sorry if my evidence is against the grain but thats how it is!

mr g wrote:I'm getting tired of this now,every phone i've had

Nokia 3650
Nokia 6600
Nokia 6630
Nokia N70
Nokia N73
Nokia N80
Nokia N95

i've put everything on the memory card/s and not had any problems on ANY of them and i'll continue to use them as my main storage for everything.
Sorry if my evidence is against the grain but thats how it is!

Whilst I think pa49 goes slightly over the top blaming installation to the memory card, I do still believe that installing to phone memory is better. Memory card doesn't always mean disaster though, in fact, it's probably fine most of the times. The stability problems especially varies hugely with the applications you use, and how you use the phone.

Anyway, if it's REALLY REALLY bad, they wouldn't let you install to the memory card would they?

But the question is - WHY install to the memery card in the first place when there is plenty of space? The memory card gives no clear advantages, whilst there are two good things about the phone memory that's true regardless of what applications you use and how you use them:

1. application is always available. for example, if you are running windows live messenger off the memory card, and you want to add some new music by taking the card out or connecting in mass storage mode - messenger would have to be closed down.

2. performance. whilst the execution speed shouldn't vary, applications can be loaded slightly faster from the phone memory than the memory card.

Mr G. Thankyou! Your solution did manage to rid me of the themes on my phone. Still having probs with MSN tho. The reason i install files to my memory card is simple......if something goes wrong, its alot cheaper to replace a micro SD than a whole new N95. If i instal a file to my card that then goes awry and crap i can remove the card instantly before anything happens to my phone. Im sure someone will argue this is a pointless excerise but it keeps my mind at ease!!

There are far too many variables that many posters are unaware of and unfortunately too much dogma to have any chance of achieving a rational conclusion, which is what I had hoped for!
I must say that the windows mobile community take a somewhat less jaundiced view of their devices!

Gizza22 wrote:Mr G. Thankyou! Your solution did manage to rid me of the themes on my phone. Still having probs with MSN tho. The reason i install files to my memory card is simple......if something goes wrong, its alot cheaper to replace a micro SD than a whole new N95. If i instal a file to my card that then goes awry and crap i can remove the card instantly before anything happens to my phone. Im sure someone will argue this is a pointless excerise but it keeps my mind at ease!!

Thanks mate,glad you got it sorted.

pa49 wrote:There are far too many variables that many posters are unaware of and unfortunately too much dogma to have any chance of achieving a rational conclusion, which is what I had hoped for!
I must say that the windows mobile community take a somewhat less jaundiced view of their devices!

Conclusion is....Do what you want,i do my thing you do your thing.

Who cares what windows mobile users are saying,where talking about Nokia N95's here!

mr g wrote:Put it my way....
I have over 100 themes on my sd card
329 songs on sd card
990 images and video's in gallery on sd card
And 6 apps on sd card

I get no problems what so ever and i don't have to jump through hoops either to delete themes!
Plug in phone,find folder,find file,delete :tongue:

I forgot to say about the 12 games i have also,and still i get NO problems.
I see your comment in another thread
''Anyway, I put my theories to the test last night and completely wiped the phone and reinstalled everthing to the mem card. What a mess! Crashes, freezing and restarts!!!!!!!!!!!!
Needless to say I put it back the way it was''

If this happens surely something is wrong,as that don't happen to me with what i got on my N95,no problems at all!
Surely i have a point in this whole debate that installing everything on the card brings no problems?

mr g wrote:I forgot to say about the 12 games i have also,and still i get NO problems.
I see your comment in another thread
''Anyway, I put my theories to the test last night and completely wiped the phone and reinstalled everthing to the mem card. What a mess! Crashes, freezing and restarts!!!!!!!!!!!!
Needless to say I put it back the way it was''

If this happens surely something is wrong,as that don't happen to me with what i got on my N95,no problems at all!
Surely i have a point in this whole debate that installing everything on the card brings no problems?

Having done the alternative would give your "points" more weight