The Next Gen N-Gage platform is due to go live some time in November, so we still have a fair while to wait until our gaming main course arrives. However, to whet our appetites, All About N-Gage has been serving up some Next Gen hors d'oeuvres, looking at the best S60 games that are compatible with Next Gen N-Gage phones and are available right now.
Read on in the full article.
this doesnt touch reality and power, there has been warcraft, starcraft and age of empires released for s60v3. need more? baleds&magic (very pocket kingdom like game), age of heroes (very rifts promise of power like game) and lots more, that list right there is a list of the obvious games, you didnt even tap into the world of non-nokia gaming yet 😊
"this doesnt touch reality and power, there has been warcraft, starcraft and age of empires released for s60v3. need more? baleds&magic (very pocket kingdom like game), age of heroes (very rifts promise of power like game) and lots more, that list right there is a list of the obvious games,"
Firstly, as far as I can tell those games are Java, not S60.
Secondly, I can't find any official sources for those titles, just warez places.
"you didnt even tap into the world of non-nokia gaming yet "
The only Nokia game mentioned is Snakes, all the rest are from independent third party publishers.
http://www.midlet-review.com/index?content=news&id=1018
http://www.midlet-review.com/index?content=news&id=1431
that takes care of those
the rest are from a chinese company called minisoyo, the manufacture games for chinese and jap versions of the nseries and someone good enough translates them and shares them around, i know they're not official and are java but IMO they are much better storyline wise, SIZE wise (1 mb per game im not sure of their sizes really) and gaming wise, here's an example, would you rather play blades and magic or snakes?
Those are all Java games, not S60 games. I also don't see any official download or purchase links on those sites.
All games on our list have to be legally available and use S60.
"IMO they are much better storyline wise, SIZE wise (1 mb per game im not sure of their sizes really)"
Return To Mysterious Island is about 20 megabytes, and has a huge, deep plot. In fact it's inspired by a famous novel.
But you can't judge the quality of a game by its file size. 😊
"gaming wise, here's an example, would you rather play blades and magic or snakes?"
You can't really compare a puzzle/arcade game to a fighting game, that would be like comparing Tetris to Street Fighter II.
"the manufacture games for chinese and jap versions of the nseries and someone good enough translates them and shares them around"
I'm sorry but we're not allowed to post links to games that are "shared around".
----- the java games you're talking about have become so advanced in gfx and playability they beat ngage gen 1 games graphical wise
Return To Mysterious Island is about 20 megabytes, and has a huge, deep plot. In fact it's inspired by a famous novel.
But you can't judge the quality of a game by its file size. 😊
---- When i meant size-wise i meant size conscious, they do not take up that much space, taking upto 20 MB is crazy when you're looking for a phone that runs music and games and videos outta the box. deep challenge isnt favourable, if there is something nokia should look for is franchizes, playability, fun-factor and exclusives. once someone is told "it's from a novel" they rather download a pdf from project guttenburg. people dont want extremem challenge, its why arcades still exist!
You can't really compare a puzzle/arcade game to a fighting game, that would be like comparing Tetris to Street Fighter II.
----- okay would you rather play return to mysterious island or age of heroes?! both are adventure but approach it from different sides. id go for age of heroes, it has levelling up, tactics, techniques and specialities. RTMI on the other hand basically waits for you to figure out that monkeys can break coconuts so that you could use that as a water glass (im not sure if that is in the game but just an example) adventure is normally about something that would be out of this life, magic and stuff not being stranded on an island, id rather watch a TV series like LOST.
i know youre not to post such links but to be honest - nokia havent thought of games like these i was basically stating a point and what i originally meant is that this misses out a lot of good stuff.
capcom mobile released a street fighter game- pretty decent too
sony mobile released God of War, similar to what was released on the ps2 a few years back, gaming on nseries is so wide and huge that you can't bring it down to a stand still that these are the top notch games that you should play. it relies to storage you have, your taste and many other factors.
id love to see you comment on that 😊
"gaming on nseries is so wide and huge that you can't bring it down to a stand still that these are the top notch games that you should play."
I think you might have misunderstood what the articles mean. We haven't even finished a fraction of the series yet. There's probably going to be about 20 or 30 of these articles in total by the time the Next Gen actually launches. The idea is that we put up a new article every day or so to give people ideas about what to play on their Next Gen phone while they're waiting for the actual Next Gen games.
We're not saying these are the only games you can play, we're just saying these are some of the best S60 3rd games out at the moment. These are good starting points.
If you can think of any S60 3rd games which belong on the list, let us know.
"When i meant size-wise i meant size conscious, they do not take up that much space"
Well, going the other way Snakes takes up about 1 megabyte, and Frozen Bubble takes up about half a megabyte. Some of the games coming up in the article series take up even less space.
But file size isn't that relevant any more, modern phones have a lot more storage space than the original N-Gage did. If you're installing these games to a 2 gigabyte memory card, it doesn't really make any difference if a game is 20mb or 1mb.
Memory cards are incredibly cheap now, you can buy a 2 gigabyte microSD memory card for about 20 euros, which is the cost of about two S60 games. And on-board storage space is huge now too, the N95 8GB and N81 8GB have (as their names suggest) eight gigabytes of on-board memory, you don't even need a memory card.
"adventure is normally about something that would be out of this life, magic and stuff not being stranded on an island,"
RTMI is full of underground tunnels, sea monsters and... well, you have to play the game to find out. Like Lost, it's not what it seems at the beginning.
"i know youre not to post such links but to be honest - nokia havent thought of games like these i was basically stating a point"
S60 games aren't made by Nokia, S60 is the platform, and it's an open platform. S60 games are made by anyone who wants to, just like PC games, and most of them are produced and released by independent companies. Some of the people who release S60 games are individual programmers.
If the makers of the games you mentioned want to release games on S60, there's absolutely nothing to stop them. The S60 development kit is a free download.
glad you havent stood still there cuz that would miss out on lotsof potential, if you want famous ones you can always go for other games from infinite dreams they're the best out there at the moment
what i meant about size is a rich experience, fun adventure and that kindof, stuff. puzzle bobble and snakes maybe on the lower end of some people's listings as they need exciting games not mundane repetitive ones. java games also take up a lot less RAM than other games so you might think of the RAM space taken up with these java games versus snakes or bobble
im not in the stone age krisse i know about these new devices but they're not made right, what about when the 8gb runs out? with music, movies on the go; games, downloads and lots of other current s60 capabilities, 8gb may run out faster than you think. as for memory cards that's fine cant argue there but im talking about an out-of-box situation. for example i bought my n93 for 650USD, why should i go out and buy a new memory card, a decent one should come with the phone out of the box and wasting 20mb of a 128MB card is crazy as i said before.
ill have to look up RTMI i see 😊
again im not in the stone age krisse i mean the next gen lineup games that are funded and helped by nokia are not as exciting as the java games you critisize so much
"puzzle bobble and snakes maybe on the lower end of some people's listings as they need exciting games not mundane repetitive ones."
Snakes is very exciting on the higher levels! 😊
Puzzle and arcade games have a different kind of excitement to RPGs, you can't really compare them directly.
It's like saying Star Wars is a better film than The English Patient, you just can't compare two totally different genres like that.
"java games also take up a lot less RAM than other games"
Like for like, java games take up more RAM than S60 games. Java games can't access the hardware directly and have to operate through the java platform, which sits on top of the Symbian S60 platform. A particular game done through Java is much clunkier and slower than the same game done through S60.
"im not in the stone age krisse i know about these new devices but they're not made right, what about when the 8gb runs out? with music, movies on the go; games, downloads and lots of other current s60 capabilities, 8gb may run out faster than you think."
Yes, maybe 8gb isn't enough for people who want to watch loads of movies, but that's nothing to do with games. 😊
"for example i bought my n93 for 650USD, why should i go out and buy a new memory card, a decent one should come with the phone out of the box and wasting 20mb of a 128MB card is crazy as i said before."
I agree, a good size memory card should come with them. But are you really going to refuse to buy a bigger card just because you're annoyed with Nokia?
You don't have to buy cards from Nokia, buy it from one of their rivals, that way you're getting back at them a bit.
"i mean the next gen lineup games that are funded and helped by nokia are not as exciting as the java games you critisize so much"
I didn't criticise any java games, I just said they weren't S60, and this is a site about S60. I haven't played those java games you mentioned, I have no idea whether they're good or not.
As for the next gen games not being exciting... how do you know? Have you played them? 😊
the latest java games have been optimised for s60, just like since two years ago, sony was optimising it for their own SE lineup. the new java games are more powerful, more stable and less heavy on RAM than native applications, native s60 applications on s60v3 use up a lot of power, java games are easily launched from one folder in one spot, much easier
i did not compare games right now, i merely pointed out that snakes and puzzle bobble are games that are not a hit anymore, they have been used so often it has become rather a time killer/saver rather than a competitive enjoyable game, i agreee about levels 34 and 35 in snakes yet i do not find that those will sustain any interest after the age they are at at the moment
I agree, a good size memory card should come with them. But are you really going to refuse to buy a bigger card just because you're annoyed with Nokia?
i am not angry with nokia to be honest, but i mean anything when bought should run right off the box, i didnt mean that nokia are short-cutting the possible sizes, simply saying that a game shouldnt be large enough to an extent that compels me to buy a new memory card, they should be reasonable. This way i gotta pay for RTMI and a new probably 32 MB memory card JUST for it.
--> are you allowed to encourage me against nokia made products? :P
you cant really say it's because you're on a s60 site that you wont try the rest, you must see both worlds, otherwise you will always have a narrow perspective, i have tried almost all of the games you mentioned (save puzzle bobble) so i know your side, you should try java games like street fighter and others before you say anything.
nokia made 5700 lyrics player, nuTsie, nokia dj mixer, currently are the three best music applications out there - all java and optimised for s60
simply at the moment, java rules the scene of applications and games so i think allaboutsymbian should do at least a review of java possibilities - by the way we should chat instead of post, chatting is much easier as argument counters argument very quickly :P